Joe Rogan Experience #808 — Michael Wood, Jr. Transcript

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0:00 Yes, and we're live. Welcome back, Mr. Wood. If I would have stayed, maybe. about the thrill of chasing people and all of the cool stuff about it. And we scheduled this podcast Well, this is where we get into the Mike Rhodes, the dirty liberal thing. the daily in America. You just don't hear about them all. So mass shootings generally characterize three or four more casualties, something like that.

3:16 A lot of people don't categorize those as mass shootings because they think of mass and then they give three names to the mayor. department, but still totes their line. don't worry about it. And that's who's the commissioner now. had the answers and then she gets this super high score out of nowhere. So if I'm going to come in there and I'm going to say, all right, that's it.

6:56 willing to give in to the people that have pushed hard enough to say, look, I'm going to relinquish you were sort of like, oh, there's officer Mike, you know, he's a part of the community. And it essential underpinnings of of being motivated to go and make arrests and to get the stats. So I did foot patrol for like six months. after the shootings in new york where a bunch of cops had gotten shot um um there was this

9:41 Precisely. this Ferguson effect that the cops are laying back. So they're not being as proactive. And Police are there to clean things up and to investigate after the fact. When you're around them all the time It creates resentment. very much like that the police do that. well, wait, this is obvious. It's right in front of our face. And what they're doing is they are funded. And so you have a mayor in Baltimore. The mayor directs the police department's way, no matter what city you're in.

13:08 And then on top of that, I think there's also the problem with those people And I think it's real convenient for people to be outside of that and look at those folks and go, well, those people need to stop doing crime. It wasn't my idea. And I'm not a financial person. And if you give Americans, you know, essentially $1,000 plus a month. They would not sell houses in certain areas to black people.

17:07 because I just finished going through it. I think it was like 15, 16 years. So you get stuck in this, And the two biggest pushers for the success of these, of any kid in these neighborhoods and moving them out and what happened to them. And the two biggest pushers for the success of any kid in these cities was that they had an identity project, which means they're finding their passion and what they're going to go towards because they don't know these passions.

19:08 parents. And what it's costing us to then take care of what the fallout is in just that microcosm. What about our own inner cities? oh, we just need to move people out and relocate them. Or we need to, the idea was, all right, whether it's comedy or whether it's photography But how do you sort of engineer, for lack of a better term a whole You know, you charge a black kid in the city, you know, you charge him, he commits a homicide,

23:19 There's a dude who works at the comedy store who was a criminal defense attorney, and he resigned. And he said, everybody wanted to just bury their head in the sand and he couldn't do it anymore. punished? Absolutely. is based on punishment. I think it's $24,000. better person when they leave than when they go in but we have that in us we want these fuckers to

26:37 We do that to others. Like the guy who killed all those people in the theater in Denver. them an education? I mean, obviously he's got a mental illness. financially feasible? How much more money I mean, well there are it mean Right. We just go, all right, throw that one away and continue path as normal. finding ways to prevent that as much as possible or reduce it for other people and a lot of it

30:02 is how much exposure to violence that these So explain that. So while it says that the programs need some tweaking, but it shows that it's counter narrative that these kids aren't trying and that they're not succeeding to get out. Staggering I'm shocked. I feel dumb because I did the same things like yeah, that's all they're exposed to right how much effort is actually being done to try to fix this?

32:31 You know, there's so much shit we're worried about on top of that. And it looks like butterfly wings dispersing out poverty and black people in the city. because it's the neighborhoods you know So they're not serving the white people. And nobody cares. Now, how much of it is dealing with prison guard unions and, and police unions that are trying to keep business as usual because that

34:58 the way it goes. That's the way it's always been. As long as we have money in politics, it doesn't need to be, where you're telling people there's I mean, how many guys that are cops who are also into martial arts or into fitness or I mean, that's a great way of going about it. They just didn't brush their teeth. and it doesn't have anything to do with the

37:33 them, we can spend the money in education. So for every million dollars that's spent fighting Somebody can look it up. The large part of that has been because of education so you educate people out of drugs educate people you know because they will be distributed. continue to do the opposite. For reasons I just can't get my mind wrapped around. Like, it's

40:17 country, and then you look at how many crimes there are, how many gun shootings there are, it's but what they try to say is that what we're dealing with is just massive numbers of people, are law-abiding citizens that don't do anything wrong. Which I'm going to argue to the end of the day that they don't. go past that- To keep in bare arms, right? And the second is that that number is acceptable.

43:11 The documented of shootings, 30,000. Everything's perfect, but that's just not gonna happen Plus he's a giant. What's the argument against him being able to be a firearms enthusiast and possess all these guns? And on one side of this equation, we have 30,000 handgun victims. And that if there were people that had guns in that nightclub, they would have been able to prevent that crime by taking that guy out.

45:52 so it's really problematic. But don't more cops shoot more criminals than criminals shoot cops? But you're saying that cops are getting shot. body armor and all that shit they were the cops were just so outgunned as far as firepower sure inadequately armed. Well, they are. It's a military weapon. Right of damage that we're talking about. So my position on gun control

48:59 fire off rounds quickly, you're limiting their ability to make a quick follow-up shot on an animal that That I don't have the objection to that. det cord and C4 to blow up buildings. get caught up a lot in the high power because they're they're capable of that Like, what is on the other Well, the only argument is that a person who is not a criminal, and a person who doesn't have any

51:28 Well, it's to chop up food. They have a better rifle to use than that for hunting. Yeah, higher class. Oh, good Lord. Australia is the shining example. China China's four times our population. Is it? Neither do we. and background checks and things like that. We don't get it passed, Congress at all. It doesn't that it's a slippery slope that they'll never get back.

55:04 Well, hold on. No, we're not. No, we're not. You don't think freedom in this gun-saturated country. We're all afraid. Hold on. Every day when you go to the wall. So why then would we all want to protect this so much? what people that are fighting against guns, of how to do this. Every other example is a better example than what we do. But we're continually

57:33 When you see the destruction close to you, it's suddenly Gabby Gifford can go for for gun control after it touches, you know, or somebody like that. Jamie doesn't want to die. Lock those people up. Right. So let's make them more valuable so they're not worth $200 on the street so that a gun disrespect beef or a drug war beef can lead to that shooting.

59:26 They're not going to have a debate. Anybody that you can get to do this, please. He does have a thousand fucking guns or something like that. right. Yeah, I mean, he's never done anything with those guns. Of course we do. And I'm just putting this out there. real problem i don't know how to solve that real problem i'm sure some people would say concealed

1:01:37 You're going to hit people. It was at a college. People have done this. And, like, we don't want to do that, right? Wait a minute. Yeah. The first time they get in a real gun battle, But these are a certain segment that needs to live up to a high standard. statistics say that you're more likely to shoot a family member in a fight or, yeah, suicide,

1:05:14 I can tell you, you can have a gun on you right now, And you know I'm coming. You're going about your day as normal. Well, I'll be fucking jacked up on Adderall for 24 hours. out of nowhere. So when people Is it right here? So they're going to come from behind, they're going to grab it. I'm really going to see your gun if you have one of those because those are pretty darn big.

1:07:11 And two knives. He's got a It's your ability to make logical decisions. with policing is you don't get into Right. And there's a high possibility. So once you introduce that, that potential, you're more dangerous to yourself. So it's like driving a car. done anything yet criminal, And if we can just move to a point where we can accept a lesser amount, that would be

1:10:08 Well, I would like Banned. can we rethink that and what is the Second Amendment read it exactly Jamie We really need to consider that. free state so they're establishing that it is important that you have a well-regulated militia Right. Right. as we said a long time ago if we had to do this over again, if we had established new Yeah. See, it's a fucking, nobody talks like that, you fucks.

1:14:38 and bear arms shall not be infringed The right of the people. we owe everybody oh that's right that's right a well-regulated militia being necessary so of a free state. So they're establishing The right shall not be infringed. Right. have the guns. That's what I'm saying. definition a modern definition of the the rights granted by the second amendment is there any like

1:17:32 What you're saying then is that if they make a law, like Trump gets in the office and he says, all right, that's it. They're not going to command their members. So if you're talking about affecting the entire country, then those people will have that personal effect because it's not just they're turning on their own family. Right. Oh, no, no, no. Sure.

1:19:37 Just remember that equation, though. Take San Bernardino out of the mix. Daily. that talk about how many people get shot. The federal government, nobody does this. We're just talking about- Yeah. And Nugent spews this out every point he can. from time to time. until the end of the day. in having an argument I'm halfway looking through something. It's Washington Post.

1:23:45 Someone with a weapon In which police shot Three in five of those killed making chases more white people it's probably more Slowly brown people are fucking their way up to the top. No. Right. overpopulation. Yeah. Grinding. Let's see. We can probably pull this up on street maps. that i didn't even think about that were pretty darn liberal i'm pretty liberal i'm a fucking

1:27:05 First of all, how dope is Google Maps? They've caught people coming out of whorehouses and shit. All right, face to the left, Jamie. If I could get my bearings right, You're going to hear a lot of these in a lot of chiefs are starting to push this out again, which is the violent repeat offender where they have people with. And we're talking and it's been hours we're on

1:29:50 They're robbing the store next to me right now. So they got handguns in the car and everything. so I'm riding with the sergeant I was a detective at the time and say to him I'm And I look at them. even know what a 1031 is to this day so 1033 is an emergency so i get on there and we're we're Right. so I leave my radio by accident. I'm getting him. Everybody goes running.

1:33:17 but it like pathetically just hits the building and falls down. or whatever. and Western Patrol got one of the guys, By mere coincidence, half the gang that we were looking for to go into the bar robbed the store that was next to our guy in Covert. Right. easily shot that guy who was running with the gun and that's what the statistics show happens a lot

1:35:38 So when you talk about saturation, I mean, look in that incident. Instead, what we continue to do is we just throw that group into jail. Yeah, I mean, it's going to happen. even for criminals, is that what you mean? Right. Stop adding salt. literally just stop just as quickly as we started it we can say okay we're not going to imprison So it's been a year since I was here and we discussed these drug war

1:39:35 But marijuana is just one really benign law. we create, the guns are being He was going to get them into treatment. He's had excellent success. Yeah. is when heroin moved in to take its place because these people were sick they needed their pills Yeah, definitely. everybody always talks about when after they talk to you other people start to pay attention

1:42:39 But what that did was, is it pushed me to get more involved in Baltimore so I could get the other people involved in the project that would have good ideas and would really know the streets well and would know the activists and we started forming these tight-knit groups and I just didn't, I had all, a lot of those same preconceived notions of like, you know, being

1:44:21 and we did stop and frisk for people so that they would see what it was like protesting good why is it always got to be like burning down the CVS or And that really has affected me that being a cop, you lock them up and you put them into the cell or you take them to court and the case goes or whatever. like i get a like aggressive and when we're talking about these conversations about guns

1:47:11 actions do in order to step up and say, hey, we shouldn't be doing this. We have to get out of He took a picture of my daughter that's from a protest that's going to be in. gets, so this is Devin Allen, he gets He takes those kids in and teaches them photography And like, that's what we all have to do to give back these neighborhoods. going down to the hood right now and i'm gonna help i'm gonna just find them fucked up no pants

1:50:37 that's going on, and they participate in Well, obviously, Baltimore is on the other side of the country. They're facing all the same problems. Let me ask you this. we have to give that power away and i think that's a condition that i have to have in order to take Creates this power vacuum and now you have a case to almost, you say, well, it's worse without Gaddafi than it was with him.

1:52:59 perfectly. And those things can happen perfectly plausible that it could have happened. A weird theory that I've started to recognize is that actually in this study, the Stephanie DeLuca study, they talk a lot about how these kids are really more passionate now. Worst that you can imagine in your head as far as resources go. These kids are actually achieving,

1:55:09 rewards they're just not there so if you have a more ambitious population and they're turning to And I mean, sure, I guess that's a weird argument the percentage of people taking crime Really? If the police don't provide justice, well, then they will. So the drug trade fills in for a lack of resources. And I want to have like officially We have some issues with voting

1:58:47 I think we have to have a vote. Right. all going to discuss how we want to approach issues and i'm going to bring my science i'm board's fault because they have the agency so if the people are responsible they can't bitch at Not that far. Yeah. Yeah. Right, so this board that we have, Yeah. The feds have to come in and do it themselves. Well, Colorado's a perfect example where the money was so good with the plan that was initiated,

2:02:40 But it was predictable. is obviously not working. The real problem would be if they decided to not enforce the drug laws But what makes heroin so bad is its lack of purity and the environment in which you get it. It's a huge issue. They're not a prison issue. That's not what I want. I want a doctor oxycontins and opiate pain killers in florida than the rest of the united states combined yeah no

2:06:00 I'm confused. Only doctors. and you, if you're the panel, and I'm the CEO, we can work these things out and come to a position where we're like, OK, let's try this. But we don't make that case with alcohol or tobacco. on our healthcare system. Oh, no Well, they have to go to a doctor. Yeah. You gotta let them party. What do you got going on, Jeremy?

2:09:49 That's a weird thing to argue, Yeah, so those things we empirically know we know those will improve the situations with massive positive results, It rewires addiction. What in the fuck? Holy shit. I'm a big fan. I'm too type A, aggressive. You're doing it all by yourself. I think it enhances more community type feelings and thoughts. And I think that's the opposite of

2:14:04 I think that's a bad drug for society. people that get involved with coke those are people that are like unduly confident it's i I don't want to have that happen to me. Next thing you know, they're looking forward to doing that because it provides some sort of an escape from the pressure of the consequences of pursuing a dream, of chasing down life,

2:15:37 And I think some of that, I mean, this is going to go way out there, to work hard. And then through those goals, you get this feeling of satisfaction. Well, when you're gravitate towards alcohol and a lot of other drugs as an escape. And that's a part of the the leaders of the oppressed, So the masculine members of a society And that'd be my shameless plug.

2:19:35 Let me stop you right now. I tried to watch one of those the other day. you ever heard that expression, one boy, one boy's work, two boys, one boy's work two boys half boys work meaning that like if you have two young kids Sure. Well, so regardless of whether you get a point of whether he did it or not. I'm honestly unaware of the case. What was he accused

2:21:19 And we have this community that we formed now. you to people like me? It's critical. Yeah. Right. So the successfulness of turning that around And we're creating the entire infrastructure under one umbrella for them to come in and have their voices heard and get their message out there. proportionally has the podcast that does the best or whatever.

2:23:20 individual level. And if so, I would always love it if people would help me out with radio revolvers so we can get that finished so you're what you're going to do is you're going than me. They always felt so anyone who is successful, I shouldn't even just say wealthy, It's very difficult to believe that you can rise from no matter where you are. that that we set these up for people and they can do that and they do that now and it just reminds

2:25:54 but let me tell you something. That's really what it's all about. And one of the most positive aspects of doing this podcast guys you know now I'm competing my my, my, my lifestyle is so much healthier. I eat cleaner. Everything's better. on negative bullshit and you could be one of those people who goes on Twitter and just bombs on people and shits on people all day.

2:28:01 not even been obvious to you because you've gone and used this platform to do these things. your life is all about reevaluating the way you think or evaluating it or enhancing it or adding to it He writes every day. You're on it for some whatever reason. or for good or for bad and you get to see negative aspects of the way you think and the way you

2:31:43 right yeah well the young turks what what they've done is they've developed this sort of alternative media platform that's outside of the mainstream media. jank jank Jesus he's good I gotta go see him this week. Just don't call him Cenk. For sitting in for Democracy Spring. A real, a legit arrest record? we had got a phone call that there was no way they were going to put me in a chance to speak in a,

2:33:17 so what were you protesting? That's what they said. overall um so we have we have some good pictures of it if jamie their website's not working The lieutenant said, hey, I'm glad that So that's Captain Ray Lewis. He also a lot so they had there's there's Jake dying in these streets well they're probably scared to get arrested man they are but i i just

2:36:27 That's all? I mean, it's the root of everything. This was the first day was the biggest day. It wasn't a real jail. Jesus Christ. So that's an example of another thing i mean you can go and you can hope this thing's going to start? So name of the podcast, when do you hope this thing's gonna start so name of the podcast the radio right now it's called it's called radio revolver and that's

2:39:09 And so the donating is for equipment and for rental space? We have some of the local artists painting the is going to... One of them is going to be Misconduct. And then you'll's going to be multiple podcasts. Oh, okay. One of them is going to be misconduct. And so everybody that wants in, around and everybody, to you, they know you. People hug me. I don't even know. I'm like,

2:41:28 And when we'll hit the next hurdle, which will be something like, well, why are they going after him for the drugs? And we'll definitely want to do that thing with my friend Justin. Michael Wood Jr. Is that what it is on Twitter?