Joe Rogan Experience #819 — Brendan Schaub Transcript

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0:00 Ta-da! It's like some Japanese... It's a fighter in the kid shirt That's where we got the idea A nice tan. Fucking cuckoo guns fireworks smoke i was like holy guns yeah oh yeah people just shoot up in the air too those stupid straight up they're not like shooting towards the ocean you know to the woods. What's wrong with you? I like Well, there's nice little restaurants there.

2:02 If you have like a Prius, it's a good place to live because the parking spots are all That's cool. It's not that I don't like neighbors. your neighbors with the grizzly bear that's part of the reason the big reason the winter Maybe they enjoy it. 35,000 people in the town. That's a lot. expensive street in los angeles just beat out rodeo drive oh god why i know that is beyond me

4:36 hollywood my car got broken into and then i moved to encino i mean, North Hollywood, that's a hustle too. You know what I'm saying? I think, I mean, I think you can deal with it, but I think there's an effect of too many And through the amount of footsteps that people take per minute and the amount of syllables Because when there's too many people around, everything ramps up and accelerates.

6:04 You know, it's the American mindset, the hustle where you got to make money get a job provide if it was Sunday Yeah. No, there's no way. And I'm like, how many people do you think live in the building? Yeah, we go to that place. you're just not getting your steak and then dipping out he's throwing shrimp at your face So before we sat down, I didn't know anyone. I just gave the lady my card behind. I'm like,

8:50 Like they were almost scared. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I do, I just don't try hard. Hey, man. It's rotting your brain, son. there was not just This is a good card for Thursday night. Muhammad? Maybe he didn't pick that. He is. Legendary gym fighter. 40. But at the lighter weights, it's tougher to maintain this long of a career.

11:53 that fight is like a fight of the night, It's not a debate. I mean, granted, he beat him, but it's not impressive. with him the way he slugged it out with some guys in other organizations. Did you see how good Michael Chandler looked the other day? Yeah, I would too. And he was saying, that's what I told him. But then he was like, dude, this is how much they're paying me.

14:34 Right. His body sat down. Oh, yeah. John Hendricks said the same thing with Wonderboy. Yeah. yeah overconfidence but like rockhold and bisping for sure rockhold was overconfident going into They change it on, what, four day notice, some shit like that? I will go down as the greatest. I mean his the reason why he's gone into fights and not trained very much

17:55 anyone it wasn't that close and dc got taken down and kind of broke you know i'm saying so And then what's next for John? Yeah. Well, it's also because he's eliminating so much competition. He had more than that. That's all I'm saying but hit that interview. I it was it was so good man People that have never fought before, when you change from a traditional stance to a southpaw,

20:14 A lot of people say he looked terrible. Yep. What? Yep. And he didn't fight for what 15 months before that i think it was 16 I think he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. And then on top of that, he's also changed his camp up quite a bit because he started Well, you know, some people believe that you should do it, and some people believe that

21:53 camp and you ditch that heavy lift and all that stuff and just focus on your cardio, Oh, that's right. No, I thought Jim Miller won. What's that? He gets his weightlifting up. He does all this different stuff. like very high rate of cardio. They would do the first, they call it pre-camp. This is before that. Heavily relies on Mexican supplements, right?

24:07 Yeah. I'm like, fuck. But he's been tested five times, or was tested five times when last I heard about it. Dad bod beat him. Yeah They told me like three months ago So it's like, if you're batshit crazy, if you think Brock four weeks ago was like, yeah, I get it for entertainment. Because of WWE? So there was a lot of work to pull this off. shows right or did a show

26:29 it ain't easy to pull those things off when you've got a company like the WWE Like, the reason why he stepped back, one of the reasons he talked about when he said concussion over there ask roy nelson i mean yeah i mean he's fighting captain concussion one of the That's true. That's why you look at Brock and his career. Then he's Randy Couture. Here's a kick to the straight liver, son.

28:25 Yeah, Uber Eam. Well, it's that one. Show him flexing right there, son. Mexican supplements And he came in guns blazing. Go ahead and fucking shoot. very skillful the way he fought Junior world class kickboxer. and then the guy he fought couldn't go on in the finals and then he So the guy who makes it to the finals might not be the best guy. Yeah. He knocked out Badr Hari.

32:38 But butter heart was going through a bunch of personal issues. You've been breaking dudes legs and night My point was, for Brock, Well, he has the type of balls anyway. Randy Couture, even though he might have been the David in the David versus Goliath, Well, Brock is just so big. He really is just a big vanilla of the very best in the division. Granted, he was saying he was sick.

34:48 God, dog. Look, nobody had any sympathy for Brock. So bad. And now he's suspended, right? I doubt it. Yeah. Because with head trauma, it lowers your testosterone. but now he might be 20 body fat instead of 10 or 15 you know so five percent more body fat but stopped so many times and just doing the damn thing just keep on keep on what chin crazy yeah

38:11 33. Yeah. With Stipe, everyone talks about these super camps. When are they fighting in Cleveland? He certainly can. He's trouble. Jamie, for 200. That is an epic goddamn fight. More views is Lesnar, Hunt. But it's a very close second for the freak show factor. I think Jon outperformed, outworked him, beat him. That first fight was super emotional.

41:21 what he's going to do different to beat Jon. Ah, let's put zero. I'd be going crazy. It's so weird. DC John, I'm not, yeah, it's weird. One fucking style. And we've seen how that I'm curious. And also, I think Jon needed that warm-up fight. Awkward guy. Goddamn, that's what I thought. I go, that's the fight. He's 265 pounds. He's got to are like he took 13 knees and glued

44:38 By anything. Measure his fucking legs. This ain't fucking Triple H. He's done. And I only have like three or four years left in my body. Yeah, so he's 38 years old. yeah I mean you can get away with so if he beats Mark Hunt, God. Oh, not at all. in his body. I look the same. Yeah. He's a big favorite. Like a Kardashian. To me, this is my, if you're a betting man and you're like DraftKings or whatever, this is my upset pick.

48:27 He got knocked the fuck out by Orlovsky. He's working his mitts. He's been working with him for a while, but I don't know if he's full-time. That makes a big difference with a guy like Travis. Yeah, I don't. get a photo with her she's got i haven't seen it she's got a lot of delicious beverage there's He's always hurt. are things that are real hard to come back from. It's not, you're not talking about like

51:29 Not just that, but it's also like muscularly. and it's fucking miserable. Then it becomes very interesting. Like, some of the other fights that he had. You look at his wins. Submitted Frank. shit crazy steve is like hold up what steve just doink what what a beautiful i've done this in the My thing about Nunes, my concern is her cardio. But with Nunes, she hits so fucking hard.

54:11 She's articulate. God damn it. Really? We're going to do that now? Yeah. And you got to wear Reebok fuck that testing god damn it god damn it really we're gonna do that punches and kicks. Do you ever see her fight you're not fighting off a nunez straight punch to the face though she hits so fucking hard she hits She got blasted a couple times with good kicks.

56:08 Yeah. Oh, Cat's a monster. She was at our show in Denver, which was a while ago, the Fire and Kid Live show. You have all this negative energy here. And Eric Del Fierro is the unsung hero in MMA. I found the fight a few times, but not just the kicks. to win. And this guy next to me goes, the guy who works there, it's like some Costco fucking won. Yeah. Second. Really?

58:07 Well, that was no power. But now here it comes. Yeah. might disagree well because misha just choked holly unconscious i know but i think i don't that that holly ronda rematch is way bigger yeah because we've never seen ronald What did she get taken care of? and maybe she's got more mobility Or she just doesn't give a fuck about fighting anymore. And then as soon as it doesn't go your way, you're like, fuck this, man.

1:01:08 There's a lot going on. See, that's for her to answer. Night and day, just waiting for you guys to get off set. Yeah. I was talking about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He goes, I was doing it naturally. He was doing this interview for Dallas Bioshock Club. sakes yeah matthew mcconaughey he said he'd never been the same again yeah he goes i he goes i was

1:03:27 Especially like Matthew McConaughey's in his 40s. Jesus Christ. Talk about being balls deep in acting. Fuck, no. They never go back to the same man. Especially for a woman, right? That orange shit. The muscles, they pop more when you're dark. how kicking is bullshit in the UFC and he can help guys. Well, you know how crazy Jean-Claude Van Damme is, right?

1:05:44 It was on Showtime. They put it on Showtime for like a week. Oh, that's what it's called? You never saw that? He's still pulling some numbers, though. That shit ages the fuck out of you. Where's his- I mean, how old is Jean-Claude Van Damme? I'm right. Fuck. Look gonna say 58 55 I'm right well you're talking look he's 54 That is a big difference. He has a kickboxing record.

1:08:59 Oh, me and him? 18 and 1. What is this? Yeah, I mean, he was, but look, he just got tagged. Look, most people don't have more than four fights in a year, I'm not saying I believe it. Full contact career in 77. He was even named Mr. Belgium in a bodybuilding competition. jean-claude van damme behind closed doors the fight has been repeatedly postponed

1:11:38 Look at this. A lot. No, it's not legit. And you go worldwide. like there's all this we're just not up. Stipe Miocic is the world Correct. It's the only belt that really counts. Not really. He fights for World Series of Fighting. ringer. Who's who at 45 outside the ufc where i, I want to see that fucking guy 55 champion, yeah. you look at the guys hot I mean that's the

1:16:19 To prove to your point, look at Eddie Alvarez. Me too. Where do you think? And then you have sponsorship money included. to grow. But even my man, Jimmy Smith, who is, in my opinion, one of the best fucking hoist gracie seven dada 5000 and kimbo you better be crunk like rest in peace kimbo you you better His contract is up. Any person on there, any tandem could fight for a main event on Bellator any night of the week.

1:19:15 That hair is ridiculous. He certainly did have a You saw how he beat, what's his name, Homeboy, the Brazilian cat that was undefeated. Worley Alves. Guy's eyes are closed. Like, no, no, no, no. Wasabi. Do you? Scroll up, please I mean, the kid's 21 years old, right? That's a tough fight for TJ. some people had TJ winning there's a couple guys on this card

1:22:07 I think four to one. Jamie with the... He's been gone for a while. Aldo and Edgar Fantastic fight. I know, it's weird. I'm very curious about this fight. Well, Frankie had a really hard time he's been on a straight win streak, son. Frankie has been on a tear. Especially if Kelvin comes in in shape. On his feet, way more footwork. It's a great fight.

1:25:41 career where it's like a fork in the road, man. Yeah. Where you go, and it's so competitive, especially at this weight class now. It's just now there's no IVs. or Martin Campman or the Johnny Hendricks that knocked out Marvin Campman or Martin Campman He started a restaurant in Texas. Restaurants are a bad idea. salary and then they had they had hired all these trainers. Well, all these camps, these super camps, they all hemorrhage cash.

1:27:39 Yeah, it's... He funds that. It's students, though. didn't enjoy training with anybody files chapter 11. See, that ain't good. So you win. And remember, yeah, that's right. I mean, I think he's got his black belt now. but dumping a ton of money into it, Yes, they've done it the right way. Gotta have students. Yeah, so he decided he's going to pay for everything.

1:30:44 and then and then pay over him You have to have young guys coming up. Well guys built a huge gigantic place. How's he so rich? He's a baller ATT for a while was the biggest camp ever. Yeah. They paid people to go over there. And there was like a big exodus where a bunch of people just got their bills paid. there but it was rashad was getting ready for a fight too i forget who he's getting ready for

1:34:07 Just all right? TriStar. There's professional boxers that work out there. Yeah, that could be a problem too, right? I go, bro, remember how we used to fucking spar? I went, dude, you guys are older than me. man. It's hard to get a guy to walk away from it because everything else is so muted and dull. like you're known as Mr. Fighter and Mr. Basketball,

1:36:52 Yeah. Unquestionably in his prime. what Frankie did to Chad Mendes out of him. Beat the life out of him. And then you look at All fighters across the board, when you see There's a lot going on there. Oh, Tiago Santos, excuse me. I mean, it's just winging giant bombs and hands down and plotting. Yeah. And they're friends, too, right? She's got to. Striking-wise, Kat has a big advantage.

1:41:01 Is she? Is he really? Oh yeah. Most people think they're smaller than they are. It's a good fight, though. She gets crap. Strong girl. Super nasty. Yeah. So for some, it's not for everyone. It's a good fight. Christmas at a rich kid's house. fuck, but I will find somewhere to watch It is a fight town. I don't fucks with Fight Pass. You have every fight ever.

1:44:58 I'll find somewhere out there to watch it. You lose this one, they'll see ya. Then goes and mercs Hennon Burrell the second time. The sport's like, fuck you. But now it's tough because he lost the If he had gone and concentrated heavily on that right leg kick, Dominic Cruz had a fucked up foot. Dominic got in there deep. No. He also beat TJ on Ultimate Fighter.

1:47:31 He could. Because if you hate ratings, you got to go Uriah Faber or Dominic Kruznick. That makes me sad. Nobody says that anymore. But Uriah, like, he holds a grudge. He is a monster, but he's never been known to be a knockout artist other than the Mitsugaki fight. TJ's the number one contender. Like Assuncao, he's number three in the world. Look at this fucking card.

1:49:45 throw a bonus but it's just something about it that bugs me it's like that you're you're fighting Did you dars him or anaconda? In the first round. I'm like, damn, son. It's a lot of money. This is the one fight where I'm a big fan of TJ as a person. But here's the thing. Yeah. Keep it furry. Yeah. Crazy. You can see why TJ's a huge favorite. Well.

1:53:03 John Jones. Big trouble. Aldo Egger, it's basically even money. Woo. MMA grappling. Jesus, tough Good luck with that. Who knows? Yeah, just murk Chad. He can make 35. Gray Maynard's fighting this week? Pretty sure. weight wow that's interesting man and he was a huge 55er like bulk wise yeah well he was carrying That's because he likes those dogs, those bully dogs.

1:56:43 More than suspect. Nate Diaz beat the fuck out of him. He was there for someone's fight. And a smart guy, too. I've ever seen inside the gym. Yeah. Yeah, we saw him lose to Masvidal. Does this make us sign up for FightWise? Liotto Machida, Well, he won the Ultimate Fighter one there's there's a couple guys i've trained with and i'm just like dude these guys are going

2:00:01 Well, Duffy's fight against Frank Mir was just real crazy. He's in love with boxing right now. Yeah. He's also a fucking vet. I feel like whenever goes a decision, Masvidal gets fucked. He used to fight backyard. How about Kane fighting Bodog? Yeah. If I could just get one night with Putin, we'd just paint the town red. But the casinos fucking bribed everybody and went, fuck, stop this, stop it.

2:03:02 night infomercial swindles where it's swindle people on weight loss That's what it is. international pool tour they came down on the ban on online gambling. fucked if i remember correctly or didn't he get paid all that they were supposed to pay him because I used to use it to bet on sports. These motherfuckers. Well, he's painful for it now. Guess what? They're fucking all those girls.

2:06:05 Enough money what the fuck you doing not only that why did he go on television? his way. who's the better team, How'd that turn out? This is back before the UFC like became the UFC in air quotes, There's so much confidentiality. Yeah. billion they're gonna or four billion they're gonna have other ideas for the organization Like that's not business.

2:08:43 Like, So look, if we put together X amount of billions of dollars, I just pay. But I think that if they were smart, they would see that there's a lot of value in it. if you're gonna buy you have to have a different idea you know i'm saying you can't just run it as They might be going like, what have we done? Really? I didn't bring it up, but we were talking about Kendrick Lamar.

2:11:24 I was dying. to really get into it. What we're thinking about doing, Jamie, I'm going to be sitting up here with these jumbo sprays, the breast crank. Not even accidentally. It's legit. That's not a bad idea. You like the edibles to go to sleep, right? Really? Nobody did. He's got superpowers. He doesn't... and then tried a 150 milligram cookie. You wasted her time.

2:14:10 But I've never heard the Tums acid thing with the 11-hydroxy metabolite. like from the 70s any reaction to it. My mom and my stepdad They're living a beautiful life in their retirement. of here really you don't have your id what they're so they're so even though it's legal she's in her I mean, obviously, she's over 21. Can they get shut down, though?

2:16:08 going to be like, ma'am, are you sure? Montana, where I was just at, apparently they just, in August, a new draconian measure kicks in. the place everybody has prescriptions and it doesn't matter but in montana they're making it They're barely paying attention to what's going on in the rest of the free world. Don't go to Venice Beach because they ain't going to help you cause it.

2:18:33 are attracted by legalization. Yeah. I wish there was a way you could give people an understanding of what motivation and discipline can reward you with. But I mean some people that are just like say let's put it this You accomplish some things. as like that Alex Honnold guy he just climbs rocks but he's world-class rock climber they're the least hater people I've ever met in my life.

2:21:33 you know, there's people that look at other people's success. And instead of saying, wow, I'll fucking smack him in his mouth. I'm like, yeah, Let me see. It's like the only reason why she's with you because you're famous and because you're money. Hustle hard. Inside it says Kevin Hart. he goes into he does all these 5ks and 10ks and all that shit it's pretty cool he's a smart dude

2:24:15 of a guy who's successful but he started just like you did somewhere man right but people see that He's just got a lot of passion and drive it just goes and he also When I was listening to the Joe Schilling podcast, he just came off that loss. territory man if you weren't doing shit they're not gonna hate on you so so giving them power Yeah. He fights like a wild man.

2:26:45 joe is like he's not a loud like flashy guy like he's almost i mean he's a quiet like introverted happen for bellator but kickboxing in general especially joe shillings they just need to tell It's probably holding you back. Spike owns it. You're going to have to do something like the UFC does, right? Did you like Strikeforce? It's silly as fuck. Ultimate Fighting Championship Dream.

2:29:16 with Pride shirts on. I give them because I got to enjoy it purely as a fan. Just to enjoy it. I was watching that shit. in Vegas the first time I ever came here when dick to me was he yeah i was yeah because i was with my buddy uh clout i'm like oh let's get a He goes yeah let's do it Oh, dude. Just... Remember when he knocked out of marsuluev The most intense tattoo of all time.

2:32:25 he covered up the shit that was there to make that damn he has that but they have those all See, that's what he used to have. I don't know. Fuck. Oh. And I was like, no. I know, man man i couldn't believe it i went no and then um then i saw some reports and i think they probably didn't have all Jim and I had just proposed to her, First right at the parking lot, no clue where we were at.

2:35:31 They were not nice guys when I came to get back. You never know. Wow. just screaming and yelling at each other in their yellow. Yeah, let them yell. But it's possible that he has a gun, too. There's a pretty good amount of people up there, but it's not like Los Angeles. He was a good guy, really good guy very very friendly guy but you don't see him anymore. Did you

2:38:29 Watched so many fights. I don't have a stake in the game anymore. It started off a little shaky. July 29th and 30th. LA Live, whatever it is? Beautiful. And then Friday night, I'm at the Ca Theater at the MGM with Ian Edwards and Joey motherfucking