Joe Rogan Experience #828 — Duncan Trussell Transcript

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0:00 Doodlaloo You just sense it when it happens? Like you couldn't do it the day of. That is not funny. And I just think we should remove it for reals. Wow. I just Googled new emoji to find the water pistol. That's cool. Look at those beauts. And now it's happening. It gets across so much more. I think they are a modern version of hieroglyphs that's right yeah they articulate so much you know that's like

3:41 a bunch of like descriptives, nouns and verbs and things like that, instead of having a bunch of like descriptives nouns and verbs and things like that instead of that having more of an open-ended idea Should I use a comma? yeah they're fantastic they're fantastic it's so fun to send those things man yeah well memes because I think he'd be the first to admit.

6:08 Wow. That's a good one. internet oh my god it's a bill cosby one oh look they've got the one of the the indian guy who died during a speech had a stroke what depends on how you define death. he just made a great point that he thinks is kind of funny Do you know who he is? meme that the power of his death that he would shatter into a million things and one of them

8:37 that guy's name like that. It's rude. They credited the name of their mascot for the company. they're funny so it's like what do you do do you just retweet it because you think it's funny and There's just a few scumbags who take people's shit and don't credit them and then they get punished usually they get And so this is a form of joke writing and joke telling.

11:09 I don't think. Like, he could have watermarked it. point because it's that's universal it's universal yeah it's you know how do you trace it back? I mean, every single word that a human being uses, theoretically, you could follow it backwards through time in the same way you follow any organic life form. someone who maybe has experienced like brief moments of human potential and realized like

13:38 Right. the godlike power people could have if they could all openly and honestly communicate with each other freely and One of my favorite, in the New Testament, my favorite gospel is the book of John and the Right. Right, right. So you see again and again, well not again and again, but right now I can think of two times where the programmer looks at the simulations like, oh shit, they're about to wake up.

16:28 if they eat from the tree of life, they will become like us, right? Not like me, like us. Well, it's also, if you're talking about like eating from the tree of life and becoming you know what God there was trees back then. Sure. Like this if you're a literal Because we didn't even know there's a fucking amazing radio lab out. It's loud. It's out right now

18:48 There's trees that were like, they got 70% of their nitrogen from salmon. plants like and this is not a dig against anybody who's a vegetarian or anyone on the other end of If you're enjoying it and you're healthy, let's all just that go just look at this for a second Forget about what you're eating with our ability to communicate with each other audibly you know in a manner

20:52 Dude, they allocate resources to more needy plants. So we are deeply, deeply woven into that fabric of intelligence that you're talking about to the point that we actually kind of grow out of that fabric of intelligence because we have a symbiotic relationship with plants just to exist on planet Earth. So you're talking about what is called, infinity through the entire net of indra affecting all other sentient beings in some small way it's

23:25 down to probably the quantum level, too. I mean, if you think of the quantum reactions happening Remember that exo pheromones? and shifting our consciousness in a way filled with these bacteria that could theoretically be controlling our cravings right so we're being Right. destroy you. He can't even see it. about this in relationship to them You maybe can find it, Jamie.

27:09 after you handle a corpse. So yeah, man, people had no idea. How long after the invention of the microscope did someone shoot a load on one? Matter of time. in a loving way your brain doesn't reject it it's like oh wow i think this girl really likes me oh wait it's a are having some of the most psychedelic, mind-bending experiences through technology,

31:05 if they didn't fuck me. Can I suck your dick? that probably exists in some rudimentary way for some kind of CGI style porn, but to be I watched it for the second time. as much as he knew that he wasn't a robot, as much as he knew that she was artificial, it's just like another human attempt to be in control of something you want you want to say think it goes back to what we were talking about earlier that we try to define intelligence by our

34:30 we're just not we not you not me for sure we don't we're not doing any you're just consuming plants. Those animals get, a piece of broccoli well it's just i think people are trying to like move away from the system that you know it is one thing that's very that that all this indicates is how there's so much compassion well, then you're probably in a lot of pain yourself right yeah but so then but you get

37:48 And you would think, because it's one of Gandhi's favorite books, Here's why you have to kill sometimes. There is no escape from this. You are, no matter what you do, man, Not to justify a meat diet. and then you'd have to decide what is ethical. going to i'm going to allow this to happen or or help it participate help participate in it but um All that shit. This is what I was thinking as I've been doing VR, having so many philosophical thoughts based on this incredible technology.

43:31 the way electricity runs through a motherboard, then it's animated, right? And so when the squirrel it's still processing the same energy. that suffering into you and that degrades your life in some slight way. We didn't have any chicken suffering. It's a delicious chicken, but... Frank Mueller is the guy, is the VO actor who narrated the Dark Tower series by Stephen King.

46:52 so you know they thought they were fucking fish leviathan right isn't that funny that we make that Okay. could say that there's a varying just shut up man I think you're right man why do we make the distinction And that's an octopus. octopi is that the plural octopi that's a good question he was in love with it octopus get through this tiny hole i mean you would look at that hole and you would like there's

51:10 Like he's Everything is alive. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where he said that mice are just the ends of the tentacles of an interdimensional creature studying scientists, gradually stretched out and changed to become various types of devices to study the crevices, it's it's an interesting take on it for sure well what's definitely They're exchanging sugar and minerals.

55:05 into the nothingness that happens after death, then it could be that you're actually looking at Unknown. we don't have the technology yet to peer into the other part of the continuum. Only in this case, the trick that you're doing is called your incarnation. transitory state of harmonized atoms that have become aware of themselves that are about to go through an incredible energetic shift where you become nothing and then maybe become something again for infinity.

58:49 Like there's, it knows everything. and that that realm is something that we're just shut off from Dude, you didn't, I mean, I don't think you meant to do it, but you articulated when you said that, the essence of so many different religious systems, which is universe what are you going to do there what's the correct reaction to have if a thing like that

1:01:21 Who finally does DMT for the first time. How about make it so deer don't want to eat them? There is a super intelligent, creative force in the universe. which is what's really trippy to imagine. Does this girl, I think this girl likes me. No, this is a fucking wild, savage, unpredictable love the way your best friend loves you or the way that like a comedian loves you, which is like, you don't know what the fuck's going to happen.

1:05:31 It'll kill you. Don't eat any primates. with uh with whales i have a thing whales, I have a thing for whales. And once they have food, I don't think, I just think when you listen to scientists talk about their dialects when you live in the fucking ocean Yeah. Yeah, man. Right after they... is a fucking whale right this is a leviathan right you're just a little fucking This is a fucking whale, right? This is a Leviathan, right? You're just a little fucking human

1:09:00 Just jab it in and out of that and melville describes melville describes killing sharks he's's like, you watch the harpooner stab the shark. The graves of millions of sailors, the wrecked ships that no one will ever know are there. stuff we so rarely see, because getting a fucking thing underneath all that pressure Fucking Christ. Did you hear that noise?

1:12:05 They hold a beer can up and they have one of them whopper tits, like those double F jammies. Boom. Now you know. she was angry? when you nut, Yeah. How about zero? I think he becomes the hero if he's tied up and he's got to use his dick in the beer can as a form of escape device. If there's girls that have tits like that, and obviously those are fake.

1:15:11 Well, I mean, based on my own experience, three. Yes. John Malkovich, the actor, right? His dick is so big. I have a feeling John Malkovich has a great publicist. He's talked about it. his dick not being tiny. It's gonna be really I was thinking, like, what's the, um, what's the, okay, if you could, like, locate the problem, right? I think most of us think politicians, they lie.

1:18:54 Hillary Clinton become the Democratic nominee and they actively tried to fuck She hires her. It's gangster. Because what exactly did they do that's so awful about Bernie Sanders? Summarize the WikiLeaks. She's the chosen one. they're actually actively steering it, He's going to do that town hall debate on Wednesday, or town hall, one of those town is corrupt and if the republican institution is in some ways corrupt i think it might be safe to say

1:22:54 which they clearly are, is technology. I'm sure the stuff they're doing up on capitol hill is all fair and square you know Well, I have my job and as long as I keep my job, I'll keep my benefits. up when people feel that they're being repressed right and if you start fucking with that output that needs to get released. so when you start fucking with the goddamn political system and pretend that everything's going to be okay you are missing i

1:27:11 How gummed up? to all sorts of different programs where they would have someone speak and they can donate money to all sorts of different programs And what does this person do? And who was paying them? So he rode that and he started doing these speeches and he'd come to colleges and a friend of mine went to see him and said It was just, it was a performance.

1:29:28 This is just, Jamie just pulled this up. Well, it's perfect then, because that's $10 million a year. The memo outlines that Clinton requires travel by private jet. That's amazing. God. That's amazing. You just have to lay it out. She'll show up So should she like say, talking you're talking about what you do for work that's part of what you're talking about like

1:31:41 Yeah, why is it okay to do that? Like that seems like do that? That seems like very problematic, right? Oh, right, right, right. loretta lynch yeah doesn't that sound like a country singer is that a yeah that's what i Wait, are we flying over Loretta Lynch? Right. entering the senate in 2001 she reported assets of less than 1.8 million and liabilities of more

1:34:15 You're dead broke. wouldn't you pick the person that doesn't get $2 million in the hole? But, now, days there. Oh, that's ridiculous. That's hilarious, though. There's a video going around of her assholes want to be, they has apparently zero security so i don't know if they're right or he's right. But we I think also No, because like Venezuela is fucking imploding and they need like that.

1:39:04 what they do right now. That would be fucking insane. The coolest, smartest people don't country became our leaders. Wow. That would be fucking insane. imagine there was who are they what who are they give me give me you don't even have to name a so the planet gets a little better? And I guarantee now, again, this is a fantasy, That's called the American fucking dream that the founding fathers came up with.

1:41:56 And then to imagine that that idea over the course of time was gradually deteriorated, Something powerful, She's sitting there with her bite suit. She has that bite suit on. Looks like a fucking German One of the most beautiful things. They get together. Bohemian Grove. initiated yeah i mean come on man this is there's a real video of these fucking multimillionaire

1:45:35 Yeah, these guys are, look, they're all fucking monsters. In a time where we're navigating things with something that looks like a protractor. because they want to worship God in a certain way Yeah. That at least the reverberations of the initial instincts to start it still exist. And like over the course of like months, they find like the world's worst people.

1:48:01 it's a boat filled with psychotics let's imagine it's a boat filled with psychotics. Let's imagine it's a boat filled with people who want to sell advertising and need to be entertaining. then the people who have tuned into that reality and believe it to be true, But if you believe it, you believe wrong information. So that's another problem. no. Just,

1:51:03 I have to follow your idea. many of the pieces of it might not actually reflect what's happening in the world. So it's your personality, it affects your immune system. It almost feels like someone blew their nose in it. And man, the more I've been concentrating on that, kimchi, that's another one that I've So what I was thinking is they were dashing babies' heads on rocks.

1:53:48 And in fact, you hired these fucking psychopaths, these abused people, murderers. Find that out. You got to get the right winds. God, that's so ballsy. being a fucking fly on the wall on that boat, And we get a day off school for them. you're considered to be somebody who's a little crazy you're not your fucking mind yeah you know of that one fucking super good arguing right-wing guy

1:56:04 Because you're supporting terrorism. shit together, has a cigar and a single malt scotch, and that's about it. and it's right now right now which is insane when you consider what the past could have been like play the commercial, I love this commercial Ploy. This drug money funds terror. It's a ploy yeah this drug money funds terror it's a ploy Can I tell you how it's true?

1:58:46 Let me stop you right there. Don't you like to shoot loads in your girl without any consequences? It's an F-A-C-T fact, baby! Go back a few days on my Twitter feed. You can go watch it. and they both get shot like rocketed back and forth like something hit near their building you I don't know the veracity. But I'm not sure if you're seeing that or if it's one of those.

2:01:16 Cool. looked like a fake lion but then um there's one that came out today that i'm reasonably sure is Just tore his fucking place apart. Lays waste. or another, the bear opened the car door, which they've From then on, they're opening car doors. This is 100% legit. shitting all over the dashboard. always seem like they run, they tend to run upon the mom, the cubs. Right. Black bears

2:04:54 They're having a good old time and swimming pools and shit. So he got shot. where not only do you fall to your death, but you're also on fire while you fall to your death. Never. You fucking monkeys. Like, how are you judging that land on his back. So this guy's What in the actual fuck? He's crying. We are here, live, on the scene. guts and the the the sound that's gonna make when that thing hits the fucking tarmac his wife's like

2:08:29 Oh, man. and his skull went flying through the air for the rest of your life. smashed into me. Avoid that. Oh, wow. name cyborg what's the guy's name? It's a cool word. getting better at basketball right skateboarding people are getting better at skateboarding right is it possible that in the ufc people are going to if you look at ufc 100 years from now isn't it possible that fighters are going to get so good

2:12:11 all my years of watching martial arts watching martial arts training in The orbit broken orbital bone is super common. her orbital bone broken in a fight. Bob Sapp had his orbital bone broken in by crow cop. I can name And then he went from being a point karate guy to fighting in MMA. He's fought in Strikeforce. and Jordan Meehan in Strikeforce. Page's athleticism, technique, experience, lifelong martial artist, perfect timing.

2:14:53 see it like I mean I'm sure you've seen it over those 1500 fights you've seen haven't you seen Right. one of the top UFC welterweights in the world, he's a fucking animal. Savage, one of my favorite So he went in and knocked out Matt Brown in the first round. Matt Brown easily could have knocked out Ellen Berger. And they're better at delivering shots.

2:17:24 What do you what do you think it's going to look like? know the name of the organization, but just knocked some guy out with an ax kick the other day. religious and he decided to quit fighting. But I think he might have fucked somebody up with an What people are getting better at is their ability to deliver those techniques in a fluid form that's imperceptible for the person that's trying to anticipate the movements.

2:19:44 What if I got up there to talk about the Iraq war? Mos Def was asking questions was talking about it I would become a monk. thinks you're retarded right he wouldn't use those words but i do but but hitchens shows utter Like that guy must have just woken up in the morning And the logical points that he makes, they're very enriching in a way that a lot of times like school isn't even a lot of times your

2:22:28 And he was right. Have you ever read some of the things that his sons did? God damn, man. It's pretty much agreed that he did it. releasing it soon look at it like there he wrote like a real romantic piece of fiction I mean by I think the monstrous part of being a human being is that no matter how fucking awful you are, and no matter how terrible...

2:25:13 Even the worst of the worst, man. There's people that through whatever reason through nature or nurture Yes, I totally agree that there are people whose fucking brains aren't working, but I Right. some shit that would lead a person to not understand when they're causing other people harm. Right. Right? That happens people in the young and these traits

2:28:41 fucking weak your lack of vitamin c is causing you to get ill. They don't look anything like us. Right. the daughter party, Like who are you when that happens? symbiotic way, right? Like you need all these things inside your body to consume the food. How scary is someone when they're a day from starving to death and they have a knife? stabbed someone to death they prove that in court and then in that case you don't even go to jail you've killed someone because you're a temporarily fucking insane but i don't

2:31:55 Hungry and angry. That's hired in a shitty job but but uh so but if you look at yourself And you're going to fucking come. Stuff comes out of your mouth that you don't even mean. like victimy machine i right but you know that's not really the free will argument right you know And almost unavoidable in their impact. Even your own therapy. Very interesting way it's compelling and you have to think about it and take it into consideration when you use terms like free will

2:36:14 This is all just a kind of spontaneous thing that seems to be part of What kind of boat am I in? which is their reality tunnel that they're living in and they're navigating this fucking raft and There's parts of your boat that you can revise. making decisions from moment to moment that are, and who's making the decision? Yeah. thing with houses and clothes and

2:39:30 stuff that we've done in separating ourselves from the natural world that's left us really But whatever influence these things have through each other in this insane network of interwoven root systems and mycelium and fungus and rotting leaves and animals all around you. It feels good They were literally saying that there is an argument that a certain amount of nature is like like a vitamin

2:41:35 I was going to ask you. It's round. Are they communicating through the air? If they're outside, you got a yard and you dig a hole and you put your plant in there I'm now inside even though there's just like a layer of wood around me You mean the earth itself? So when we're actually in the outdoors, we can call ourselves, I'm an outdoorsman. The great outdoors is instead of saying the world, nature.

2:44:39 God forbid. and I put a bunch of photos of it on my Instagram feed. Peacocks. they didn't want them to know how magical the mushrooms were and that they were a connection to God. And it represented that pineal gland, That's the fucking VR goggles for the soul. you it doesn't do it justice. This thing's insane. It took hundreds of years to fully complete

2:47:58 I mean, everybody talks about the Sistine Chapel. Couldn't that just be a light? fucking haunted so they buried it they buried it underground they didn't find it until 1864 They knew everything, man. Think about what that is. people who have like $3,000 left in their bank account, well he did the new guy doesn't do it anymore the new guy doesn't do it anymore.

2:51:17 I'd throw that one out if I was the Catholic Church. serial killer lady what was her name but oh killed all the young women henry the seventh asking for I'm sure you've already talked about this in the podcast and it's stupid. Fuck. that everybody thought it was Steen Yeah. person is. And they're singing along and it gets to the end and they all want to say of the world and it doesn't say that and they're like what the fuck and they're all confused

2:53:53 and want to say, expression he seems like he was one of the most disciplined people when it came to his work like it's he seems like We can't do that shit, dude. It's just them singing. He took over for Craig Ferguson Yeah we're gonna get yanked off youtube So like it's totally possible. I'm sure a lot of your bits are up there somewhere where someone's put them up and they put

2:57:10 pirate your stuff i don't know if you call it pirating but more they take it and they put it Yeah. Like, YouTube's making money off of the thing in some indirect way that, and acting like they're not? And that's way better than what it used to be. in your virtual world, while these girls around you like finger bang themselves Like what happens when you're watching movies in a virtual world?

2:59:47 Oh, I don't know. And so you just can sit in there and watch. What? benefit of playing a video game on a screen in the virtual world instead of playing the video game in the virtual world But what I'm thinking is, would you rather... Oh, you mean like if there was like a VR Jaws? Of course. Yeah. That'll definitely happen for sure no question and when they do things like that like will you be able to enjoy other things in that world like will you be able to go into that

3:02:41 I mean, look, man. Everything in there is fucking psychedelic. So what we're looking at and what he's seeing, fantastic contraption you're in this like weird putting green and you have to build these amazing it's impossible to convey it's a game and it's a game where this guy's moving he's got devices in And I hope everything drives VR. Whoa, this girl's ass is insane.

3:06:36 doing everything to keep from coming in his pants he's laughing like i don't ever watch porn like You can actually look up Whoa. if you're a weirdo? Maybe you don't have the greatest apartment, right? and they think those graphics look like shit. But let me tell you man do minecraft and vr like i just i did minecraft That's the vibe. there's a game called hover junkers which is so fun what is it so you um you you could you

3:10:26 yeah man you're not in your garage anymore you're flying around on that fucking thing shooting at It's making me not do archery because I just do it. It's Valve. Yeah, and it's so fun. You get used to, like I have a place on my cheek where I put my thumb. pretty cool uh i can't remember the name of it, though, but it looks a little bit more, I guess, realistic.

3:13:24 Oh, that's cool. And they run from you, and they hide. And you stand in front of this thing and these animals walk by. Yeah, goddammit. grand theft auto this way he's like yes you're quick your brain just like well fallout is coming Not only learn how to box, but you could train with the great boxers. Oh, I'm sure. because it was so fun I think I could get a good workout with this.

3:15:40 What I find interesting about this, too, Because, like, okay, so when I. inflatable raft I think for the first time, who's helped us build a floating in space program. Because this is something that makes sense to me, in my world, the world of the float. possible so that when you'd be lying down in this tank, complete darkness, you would dad had this idea I think it's called the Timothy Leary Tim Leary probably say

3:19:59 bit there's or in other words like you take a a sea turtle who's laid eggs in the sand and the first time a little baby sea turtle climbs out of the egg and burrows out of the sand, it's a land creature until it hits water. Like maybe if we go into space long enough, I believe he is. cases of someone who went into space and came back with a profound belief in UFOs.

3:22:00 in them ufo books fuck little green men I want little green bits of paper, motherfucker. I mean, it's not like or the idea if fucking Ed Mitchell saw UFOs or not. It wouldn't surprise know, there are nefarious people in this world, and I don't know if fucking Ed Mitchell saw UFOs or not. We just don't get a chance to see it. I this is what terence mckinnon always talked about

3:23:31 but it's more convenient than saying here is a representation of the higher form of human intelligence that has come in the form of an archetype that our brains translate as an angel. like, You sure it wasn't an angel? you shouldn't be able to say those words because you don't even know what the fuck they mean. You don't have anything you can bring back.

3:25:09 and then you're getting in the most insanely stupid arguments over that, But as a tool or a means of trying to in some way bring the transcendent into this dimension, then language is a necessity. well, and he's a, that's when they come. Let them keep talking? military industrial complex, the people that are earning money off of wars and controlling resources, if you really think that they are somehow or another actively trying to capture

3:28:10 like just hardcore politicians talking about the lsd experience do you think we'll get pulled off really but it's it's on there i'm surprised it's not um not anyways another question before i forget And somebody asked about the Fermi Paradox, ultimately through artificial intelligence creating infinitely more complex artificial we were talking about earlier, we know that we're inextricably woven in to the fabric of every single thing.

3:31:04 And if you have the HTC Vive, you'll see their amazing controllers just floating in the air. You've done it never Joe. I will never have sex out of wedlock pretend it's like the Cookie Monster. But with VR, apparently You could definitely do that. oh right this is my office this is my office that's the same thing that happens in some ways Yeah. well yeah it's it's one it's one of the potential uses of the thing i mean fuck yeah all the there's

3:35:37 that like you know it's gonna it's gonna fight it's like uh then it's like 3d tv that kind of Okay. tools what playlist do you play for someone who's undergoing psychedelic therapy, right? But for images while you're hearing your voice that's being altered it's like you're doing rounds how many people are going to It looks almost like a gateway, not DMT itself, but like a gateway to DMT,

3:38:26 And then you've got to use something called the ReVive injector to get it to run. one of the reasons is DK1, I had the DK2. You know Vive has, right? And that was a big mistake. So that boxing thing that we saw that was Vive. of warcraft and all that other shit that you got sucked into you're not terrified of this do we'll do a podcast from your house and we'll do it with me experiencing your vr for the first

3:41:18 Jesus. I'm sorry. the Duncan Trussell we're really good friends because if we were We'd be eating. alone, in private, just you and I All right, we'll be back tomorrow He's doing a town hall meeting on CNN, which is big news because he's a third-party candidate.