Joe Rogan Experience #834 — Dan Doty Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Hello. We had a wonderful time chasing unsuspecting undulates with sharp pointy sticks. on a hunting show. episode shooting the show. And we're passing through some fucking strange shit. I'm sure you're wonderful people. And I've always thought of Reno as being Does that mean the... Yeah. Some people were complaining about the sound quality of my iPod or iPhone recorded podcast.

3:16 Sounds good, man. I made too much noise, and they got up and bolted, but, um, there's two deer that were in, well, Was this less or more miserable than that one? Plenty of water. At least I am. through, you know, all the, just everything. Well, my friend Ari got it right. I need it. But sometimes I do. No 911 calls or something. Check all the links people post me,

7:22 I think that's what I felt. And everyone's terrified to be disconnected, And it just gives you this feeling that the world's just falling apart. open one web browser or anything without seeing anything. So I, I don't know. I have a hard Like, I'll go down those, you ever go down one of those YouTube rabbit holes? no it's a noisy it's a noisy life it's a busy life and to me it's almost it's the busyness

10:15 It makes me happy just to fucking settle down I would love to do that, yeah. woods all alone by themselves, four days, six days, whatever it was. And, uh, yeah, man, it's, Yeah, man. with my thoughts yeah like what oh no yeah you don't want to be alone with your thoughts you You've got to be able to be flexible with your your ideas are not in what's actually happening is, to me, the most compelling part of being alive.

13:52 And those things are great too. And so, yeah, the practice of doing it yourself, I think, is one thing. Is that a tornado out there? I think that's what hit us. I don't even hate Austin, Nevada. Yeah, there's cedars and there's mountain mahogany. It's like you're stepping on broken pottery everywhere. And it was also... The deer are everywhere up there, and they're fucking big and fat and healthy,

18:29 couple of coyotes when we were scanning the horizon, but the landscape for people is death. Two groups. It is my land. But to hunt in them, one thing that people don't know, especially people that are like down on place for mule deer where you can only hunt there, like, It's cool when you meet someone like that who's doing information. So it still didn't help.

22:13 I mean, it has a bad reputation because Vegas is linked to organized crime and gambling they're fucking the nicest people in the world. It's real safe. American West looks like. Goddamn Steve Rinella. It's amazing like that. rain most of the year, it's just, it's fucking miserable. It rained every fucking day we It is also just amazing. I'd have to look that up.

25:57 have to survive naked there there you'd probably make it better you wouldn't make it or how to kill something a bunch of squirrels profound of all the that experience like i felt it at the missouri breaks that that feeling of like just complete det not detachment but like it doesn't give a So I was wondering if that was a little bit of the feeling you got.

27:55 though. Awesome workout. Yeah, nothing like it, man. So you were telling me about these bunch of therapeutic boarding schools. So in the most basic sense, there's kids from generally pretty wealthy families across the country that are having trouble. Their parents don't know what So we had to make our own backpacks out of sticks and elk hide we would sew our own moccasins we would do all that kind

30:13 There's companies. It's, it's not like, you know, how old are these kids? Maybe I should say 14 to 18. look at their lives, how they've been behaving, and an opportunity, more state run sort of correctional programs. So for a long time I led trips in Minnesota that were, it was a 21-day sentence, these programs are generally run by really, like, grounded, good people that treat people well,

32:44 They've given up on disciplining their kids so much Like 120 days in the desert like this is oh my god so when you get with a therapist at these programs, or like processing things where everybody would. Huh. So, yeah, good question. a lot of growing up happened. 12 right now that I know How much resistance did you experience? Did they come around?

37:08 and you're told you're going to be there for three months or four months. We're used to, like, certain kinds of data and input. And for a lot of these kids, they're used to hanging around with fuck-ups and being around their asshole friends and doing stupid shit together. get sent away for four months or even years to these programs, God, is it hard to not slip back into old patterns, but then also even just to fit in.

39:46 line of blame if you want to do that can go back a really long to the monkeys from the trees if you And that kind of experience does facilitate that sort of thing if one wants to. It's sort of incredibly complicated complicated very difficult to do and to thousands and millions of people potentially. months ago, my first kid. And I feel all of a sudden saddled with this responsibility.

42:34 to somehow look at themselves real hard and take that time to, I don't know the best way to put it, And to be a parent that leads by example, I mean how or sometimes some people learn a lot from parents i do more specialty work so i do like one-on-ones so one time i did a 55 day wilderness trip with count my time or whatever. Um, but he was Right. You can tell them, I mean, kids, they catch bullshit the fucking second it comes out of your mouth.

46:29 you know um what did you guys do for 55 days in the woods other than so we would hike a lot most A lot of pushups. Wow. And so a lot of conversations about the future, about life, about how to be a chance for him to break his pattern sure exactly yeah it's interesting like there's there hundreds if not thousands of kids and maybe one, one, I can only think of one that I don't

49:19 One of the big things, obviously, about life is that you can't pick your parents. So I was an English teacher at this really cool school in the southeast Bronx for a couple years. And it really just ended up that I kind of liked them all, you know. because they just think that everybody's got it like this about the the poor kids that you worked with like Like, yeah, so one of the kids that,

52:17 Like, I could be the best teacher, I could be the best role model and friend of this guy Yeah, yeah. and it's, it's like an overwhelming force, it's, it's so hard, and I, but here's the I'm losing my train of thought, but yeah, so there's a lot of people trying to do good Something that's going to give them individualized attention They're told that by

55:06 And so there's immediately this odd dynamic for me that way but so there is a lot of they get what you just said they get a lot of people telling people are in a state of fight or flight constantly because it's it's really is a safety thing it's And that fucking cat was wild to the day he died. state of hypervigilance whatever it is it's just coming from a place that's not safe a place that's

57:53 and you're expected to turn on a dime. It's not going to, there's a lot of weight and that violence becomes like almost in their DNA as a response to any perceived threat, It's their DNA almost almost or it is you know so this the republican you know white conservative idea that people need to pull I think that there is no one else that's going to do it for you.

1:00:32 and been in crime situations from the time they were young. and it's just a bunch of people looking at things from the outside here in america we were talking about this yesterday that people that are in this country are so much more fortunate than someone who's born in some, you know, terrible third world situation. but civil war being a big one of them.

1:02:53 I'm sure there's a lot of kids that are born there that wish, some good leadership guys like you or some other folks out there that are doing similar things that look what I was hitting I think that's what is, not that it's missing because it's out there, but I just think it in these horrific situations that you had a kind of experience with them. And I think

1:05:33 just some pathway through the bullshit. kids. So we've talked about this briefly before, but my first one was my Taekwondo instructor I worked on a pig farm. I had this great mentor who sort of non you know, nonchalantly took me under his wing and kind of on and on throughout my life, But I think with doing some of the things that you've done and you know also

1:08:19 They just heard there was a better chance. access to information that your So, yeah, to that point, there's this thing that I've been paying attention to have the power to just smack you across your face and, like, change things fast, you know? i think it's i think so i think we're on the verge or a very ripe place. I think it's a, it's a time where, um, you know, people

1:10:57 to sort of reset and reassess, it gives you sovereignty. This couple were making out. I think they're talking about the humans that live here. but really all it is is a group of guys who get together to really practice being completely real. are all of that well it's also a lot of times people, they get out of high school. And they can't stop the momentum of their life.

1:13:28 Exactly. Yeah. Right. Look around. listen up fuckers like look around look around and notice how many adults either have shitty Instead of picking a life that you enjoy or working towards developing your life I'm going to work towards that. That is a bullshit life. The way I like to talk about it, though, that I think is a really important difference,

1:16:48 And along the way, don't be embarrassed if you're pretending to be somebody else. Like, when I was young, man, I always, I never felt very secure. those moments are huge because they give you this opportunity to maybe examine your ideas a little I just feel like you've got to, yeah, to find yourself, can't you just leave me alone? Whoa, buddy. Whoa, dude. You got to let shit out of here.

1:19:20 Fuck. Come play. But it seems like if you know that that's a possibility. Yeah, they did. You mean like 100 years from now or 1,000 years from now? Like, if you find an old barn, like that old barn that we were passing, I'm sure a lot of people died when we were in the woods. Way to go. But, no, I mean, there's a lot of, we have to, look, Have you ever been robbed?

1:23:05 I didn't really know. Or out, and they gave it to them and then ran. i'm not taking away ownership of their own actions, but you've got to think We just think that's how you get it. hindsight It's not like they went from a gated community to robbing people in Peru. I mean, you get to shape what that boy becomes as he becomes a man. No, obviously not.

1:26:03 of behavior into a person's brain Yeah, sure. That's, that got to be the future of human beings. I know, but what is that? You're right. stored in our body and that there are techniques available now that truly can unlock and free either your cells or your musculature, I don't know, wherever it is. But I think that there's proof now that things are more malleable.

1:29:29 And if there's a way to re-examine those initial ideas and form new ideas based on better data Because nothing truly has any meaning other than the meaning that you give it. Look, he did, and now he's doing great. So what that means is that when something fucked up happens and you're going to immediately have that knee-jerk reaction, And mindfulness is like a term that gets really bandied about a lot lately.

1:32:00 grade don't think about your future only. Think about this moment right now, that eventually this is going to get out. It's hard to break free of the patterns that you used to have. And then over time, that could be a gigantic factor in determining your happiness or your unhappiness, I don't know. Let me get it. I hope you understand. the day before we left. The day we were leaving, Nevada. Andrew Dice Clay was here the day before we left.

1:34:47 And I think what you're trying to do and what you have done is very exceptional. say to the world because it's not i used to say america then people in europe got mad at me i Thanks, man. Appreciate it.