Joe Rogan Experience #857 — Dan Bilzerian Transcript

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0:00 Boom and we're live. There's a lot of rich people in the world, but there's not a lot of rich people living like you. about two or three years and she was like pretty happy. The fact she was a playmate and she had You know what I'm saying? And part of the posting was because I knew it would be able to get me some pussy without actually speaking to girls, which was good.

2:17 It's hundreds of millions of people here. like like you know like fucking done like 100 million dollar movies and shit and he's like did this gambling rampage start um well i mean i've been a gambler for a long time but um i think And that was kind of like – that was one of the – actually, no. I'm sorry. take this dude down to like Port of Arda with a bunch of chicks and we're going to have fun, you know. And that was kind of like, that was one of the big, actually, no, I'm sorry.

4:35 for his part of the trip so it was me and nick and i think it was like i want to say 17 chicks 17 girls. Yeah. I'll give it to you for free. fucked up part because then the guy's like pretending to like the girl he's pretending mean for me it's not a monetary thing obviously i'd much prefer to just give a girl money fucker people just like can't wrap their hands around the fact that like you know they that because so

7:33 Nobody wants to suck your dick. You know what the chimps did? I didn't know that. You can get paid to clean toilets. I think it should be legal. That's real. How do I work this out? Yeah, as soon as those drugs become legal It never happens. They're spending $500,000 just to keep marijuana illegal in Arizona. with bankers, one of the emails, and she was saying that she was going to stop weed, and

12:14 dollars billionaires you know it's insane yeah well not only that like she was trying to say That's like basically. But what I want to get at, at though is do you get hit up because 19.2 million followers. I'm going to be your new team. Yeah. You're a dude who takes pictures with chicks. That's kind of cool. Nobody knows who they are. route is that possible at this point?

15:39 is a guy that could be fucking you know five or ten girls and he chooses to hang out with this the most superficial thing of all time well i mean she has to be nice too she can't i mean hopefully i mean it's easy to you know fuck it off or you know make bad investments or you know whatever I mean, the fact that every bathing suit now is basically a thong.

17:43 It's literally butt naked. They're allowed to wear okay. Yeah. It's like literally butt naked. I want to know. Especially if it's like American flag or something. Because it's essentially a financial agreement. the party that's a little bit less invested, just feel trapped. And when you're in a relationship and you feel trapped, the first thing you want to do is run, right?

19:37 Because let's face it, if you're if you're hanging out with a chick and you like her and she's cool and then she decides to just completely let herself go and she she turns into a fat ass and or she just like stops wanting to have sex you're just gonna you know fuck other girls It can get crazy. to pay for his lawyer to battle her lawyer and they all just dragged the whole thing out took

21:16 Well, I just can't win anything. you know, if it doesn't work out, then now you invested, you know, all weren't quite as close for a month but i said you know if it doesn't work It can happen or it can be perfect. You know, when you find out how much people actually have to pay. He's married. He drives around the corner, waits for the inspector to leave, goes all the way around and brings his shit back.

23:17 I think my buddy pays her somewhere around a half million dollars a year. right well it's so rare that it works out the other way it's so rare that a woman has to pay a So it's insanity. there's a bunch of people that try to figure out how to extract that money. legal battle for the Predominantly. Yeah, which is usually the outcome of, you know, and drained like a vampire. And that's what happens predominantly.

25:23 When you're at the top of the hill, like, everybody wants to you know get up there and you know bring There's you. So that actually allowed me to get into a lot of these poker games. much as if i lose maybe a couple hundred thousand to some guy that's like pretty broke and now he If you lose money to a guy that doesn't really have much and he goes out and spends it, well, you're never getting it back again.

27:39 To me, I don't really ever want to break a guy. You made it all playing poker? And not even just injuries, just all the medical checks they do. I had acid reflux. the military go go through boot camp in a school i was you know i was trying to ramp up because you know, break the leg worse. So I said, if I make it through hell week, just give me a medical

30:38 after going through like the hardest thing and then getting dropped, now I'm on a boat and I'm supposed to be like healing these motherfuckers, you know? And so they're going to kick me out of the navy so it like that was i was going and i was like thinking about it i was like well fuck like i you know i'm like he'll have been doing steroids i feel great i've been

32:48 He goes, you just better hope that you don't end up back at this command. Bilateral tibial stress fracture. the military's take on it So why wasn't it healing? and I wasn't allowed to use crutches. and then you know i was on the boat and i wasn't The guy wanted me to stand watches on the boat. So just from those broken legs, you could have been set up where you got a pension forever.

35:29 seal training or whatever um and i uh i made it two days before graduation and i got rolled all so i kind of didn't really like kiss ass or anything i was just like whatever like you know came through hell week with like 34 my first class we started with 119 and we came through And I was behind the berm, and my OS— So he put me on a watch in the middle.

38:13 and I just, you know, during a live fire drill out of that so yeah so i got rolled all the way back so so basically they you know put me in front walked in there and like defended like exactly like look like half the class you know just given do you think he stalks your instagram page right now i don't know but i think he remembers you and that's where you learn how to play poker yeah my brother taught me and then uh i was playing in

41:25 boat for a week turned in 10 000 went to vegas and then turned that into 187 000 at bellagio what it was yeah fucking movie i remember that that, you know, celebrity started playing and it was just like, it was one of those Really? there's a million ways my friend Ari he would make his money Go ahead. Three times. I've met him a couple of times I mean, he's like

44:12 Cause they can get Maybe Corey Feldman? See, but that was that was Right. This is like, you know, 10 years ago when Playboy was, you know, hot or, you know, 20, There's the Playboy events. you're a skeleton you oh yeah yeah when you're a skeleton yeah but i mean when you're a skeleton have a nice life and there's cool shit going on parties parties, whatever. And then the fame, I think it's like 100x.

47:51 I think for people looking at it on the outside, I don't think any of us could understand what it would be like to be Drake. Then they get in a bus. You know me, I'm fucking saddled down. Just a completely different kind of life. You don't sing any songs. 19. was when I knew I made it yeah because she didn't speak English and there and I also like I just

50:30 Ron Perlman, the actor? Yeah. stood up and he goes oh you want a picture with me like who the fuck am i you sure you don't want Most men live lives of quiet desperation. He's a brilliant, brilliant guy. of joy and then they go on your instagram you're fucking jet skiing and late meat and it's all the you know shooting guns and your underwear and it's like

53:29 you know you're talking about dividends and making it well we can make this work and let's I'm like, but here's my point. fucking grind it out at some lumberyard all your shit. I don't see any victims. $500,000 a year posting pictures on Instagram and Snapchat. I mean, just think about that for a Sucker fingers. I used to have to do morning TV. It's access.

56:53 Who has a pussy coordinator? Yeah, and from these girls' point of view, As long as nothing awful is happening. And he had lung cancer. that smoking marijuana is not nearly as He would smoke like 15, 20 joints a day. of money and this was like right around when viagra was invented So this guy goes on a rampage, and all kinds of crazy shit, apparently.

59:14 It's right on the street. Like do you understand that like what is it? i mean i'm just uh you know doing some wish fulfillment now do you have like do you have a plan charted out for this existence, or are you just winging it? are you know it's because they want you know people to see it so um i'm you know i'm gonna do that i got this uh fantasy betting app that i got um it's uh you know it's like similar to uh

1:01:32 Yeah. 54 million i mean i won 10 and a half and another night i beat another guy for 10 and then you know Yeah. anymore yeah i mean i'm you know i'm kind of at the point, like I said, where I've done so I'm doing some snowboarding trips, snowmobiling, That's actually one of the cartoon episodes. Throw the cartoon up. Is that what it is? But we can't play it online? That would just be we have an Apple TV, but we can't play it online

1:04:39 pussy coordinator he doesn't have one of those you're looking for a pussy coordinator i know some dudes calling so and so the dan bilzerian of of x oh yeah well that becomes so there's that uh that No pain while I'm working out. I know guys that are my age is that guy? You got a guy that tells you I have a team, too. Fire everybody. The guy who dances around a lot?

1:07:28 I thought so, but I don't know. dancing. Like, that's how old I am, dude. 49. The end is near. The end is near, Jamie. There he is. and he's got a banging girlfriend, to get on that dan bulzerian level i think he's what's he at what levels he at five million how I found a goat. Yeah. He's got like a bunch of writing on his chest. Come on, he's so happy.

1:09:49 I will pull that thing off. No. I saw a picture. Well, he's going a different approach. I'm just saying like that. No, 100%. Looks like he's having fun. and he is like fuck you bitch god damn it I had a tear of the labrum, a tear of the bicep tendon, and a tear of the rotator cuff. I don't give it enough time off. But one of the things about shoulder injuries that I found from Steve Maxwell, he's a pretty famous strength and conditioning coach.

1:13:10 No, no, no. impingements from gravity, from a lack of use or from too much use or overuse. Yeah. There's a gang of it, but it's super effective. It's super effective for a lot of And you make it a daily routine. When they give birth through cesarean section, they take the placenta and then they use that that a lot of people like. they went into his hip.

1:15:48 Daniel Cormier, they went into his own hip and pulled it out. Boss Rutan did that? so I went down to Mexico because you can't do it in the first time so i went down to mexico because you can't do it lidocaine ever. Um, even, you know, and, and, and they're like, you know, the guy asked me if I do So people listen, it's hormone replacement therapy. it's so dangerous no i had it was like Sicario. I had the armored cars.

1:18:34 That place is like the fucking Wild West, man. Yeah. But that was just It's not that long. We used to walk across. Well, Canada's been like that, but Mexico, I think, used to not be like, or maybe Canada But they definitely changed a lot since, you know. No, I did it twice. And then I took some antibiotics. Yeah, well, I believe Boss Root went to I think

1:20:53 because of the stem cells were to get the fetal tissue. So because of that, all these European countries, especially Germany, got way ahead of the curve Just calm down, dude. you know and he was kind of fucked up he looked the part yeah it was just like yeah he was perfect No, no, no, no, no. If it's been scrubbed and thin your system. I mean, it's like they said to difference between a regular, like a stem cell from you or a stem cell from me or whatever. If it's been scrubbed and thin your system.

1:23:45 yams. So what they would do is they But now they're figuring out a way Yeah, and they haven't even gone to 2012 yet. Well, they started it, but also what's interesting is the scientists that were involved in the program, they all got whacked. So he's oh yeah, he's into into the sports, too. So he's like... Motherfucker time got him. He always looked like a guy.

1:26:03 Yeah, Big Country. How the fuck are the little guys, right? Well, unfortunately, his chin started to fail him in recent years. like, going through, and I would eat, like, pizzas. I mean, a lot of these, you know, UFC guys that I know, I don't know. guy's like a stud on the mat. Nope. Just started bombing guys out. Never seen him on the ground, yeah.

1:28:17 and it was like Gary Shaw was promoting him. was a bad fight they should have never taken that fight Seth Petruzzelli. 10 seconds. It was just so crazy. That was a bad fight. They should have never taken that fight. I don't know if it was genetic. I don't know if it was something that happened along the way. I don't know if it was genetic. Yeah. and like he got suspended i think from the police force yeah there he is right there this is a crazy

1:30:27 right yeah this is well trying to break it up and there's all So then Kimbo's grounding, pounding him. See, like this? This this is supposed to be illegal too. You're not supposed to be able to Some really good fights. Yeah. We were in Park City, Utah. Got the whole bar drunk. I was like, fuck. like leave my room. So next day, go to the airport. And I knew that if I got an IV, I'd feel

1:33:54 Anyway, this guy ended up fucking selling me the bag. flight or a private flight? Commercial, yeah. How long did you let it drip in there for? I'm pretty sure it was in the airport. Yeah, super sketchy. Like I should have gone and like, you know, checked in. We've got ecstasy and all this drugs. I'm like, no, like I haven't slept in like two days. chick comes up and i like offered her the same thing i was like hey like. And I was like, and then the next chick comes up.

1:36:21 I'm just like, well, this sounds like she's going to want me to bang her. know seems like it's been an hour right the guy's like it hasn't been enough time like give me the fucking banging the shit out of this girl like you know i mean i got like veins coming out of a valium went to sleep banged her again, woke up, went and ate some Mexican food. I was, like, trying to sleep, but I couldn't even, like on that side i'm just like what the fuck like heart attack never even entered into the

1:39:24 out like 10 grand out of my pocket. told the lady i was like i'll give you And because this has been going on for a while, I'm like having a hard time breathing. jackson doctor the guy that smoked him and the craziest i was your doctor yeah and the spookiest like the list so i gotta like give them the list and my ex-girlfriend's there my mom's there my

1:41:27 I'm like, 200 milligrams. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's what they said. What is a heart attack exactly? basically when your heart's not getting enough oxygen or something i don't know it's not obviously works great now i mean you did that vegas run yeah the crazy bike the bike yeah which it was funny and he he was actually the one that told me he's like I think sleep apnea makes it so that you have

1:44:24 So, you know, the reason you do that is because you don't have enough oxygen. According to Sleep Review Magazine, elevated red blood cell count or a high hematocrit is an indicator of a lack of oxygen in a person's body. I don't know if yours is the same as what I – we'll talk about that later. There's a better one than that. fucking hard because you have to stay close enough to the vehicle to where you're like in that draft

1:46:33 So try hitting that on a fucking bicycle with little skinny tires doing like 30 miles an hour. bill perkins he um he you know he just makes crazy bets all the time that he just wasn't going to talk for three days. good which is kind of like you know one of my things which you know irritates me like when people say that i'm not authentic because i take like great pride and like you know, your word has to be good, which is kind of like, you know, one of my things, which, you know, irritates me. Like when people say that I'm not authentic, cause I take like

1:48:24 Yeah, no, no. I'll think of some other ones later. entire time. Right. So I've like put myself through some like, and I did two of those. Because there's just, like, some weird thing. pretty fucking brutal uh and i was like yeah we had some funny midterm stories i actually ended But I got to finish as much as I can. real fucking asshole to do that because if you mix ghp with alcohol you can kill somebody so

1:52:13 They had an eggnog drinking contest. because let me explain it. Pat. and so this guy So we say, okay, here's the idea. He named it the baby bird. And this other kid, Pat pat duffy sitting there with his Now watch. No, no, it's not over. How is it possible? And we were all there, We all saw this live. Hang on. Bam's uncle, his crazy uncle, 70? Projectile vomiting. I think it was 70. It was a lot. It was way. Bam Marguerra. It was his uncle, Don Vito. The big guy. Yeah, yeah. 70?

1:55:57 radio contest, and it was like, how much water can you drink? He brushed his teeth with cat shit. like we're we're talking about them so it's like it's one of those things like that's why he did it we're still talking about this was in a world pre-youtube really So the bet is I was, like, doing some research on it. off the couch, you could do it. And I'm like, how long, you know, do I need? They're like minimum

1:58:37 And it was like little under six weeks. to the bike shop and i'm like oh like i need a bike like i'm doing a triple century ride and And he just looked at me like I was a complete fucking retard. where like you could sit down a little bit more as a, like a recumbent or whatever. It was like purist yeah it's he's a bike i don't fucking know so i'm just like well listen buddy

2:01:22 having shoulder pain yeah like after i had done like a long ride, um, one of the nights, like I, like I actually You know? I don't know. Rick didn't think I could do it period right so he didn't think there was a possibility that I intersections. And here comes this fucking dildo on a bicycle, like riding right through it. I'm I didn't want fans to come out or people that hated me or anything.

2:03:51 Yeah. brakes you're fucking in the car you're crashing like and we had we had times when like there was a yeah there Yeah, I slept for like an hour or two, maybe an hour and a half. He was bitching about it, and I was just like, fuck it. So I'm having arguments with him. i couldn't finish the thing so there's that and there's shit in the road i mean i'm on like the

2:06:45 And you're doing it at night. Plus with the winds. I've had a lot of those moments in my life, Is this a video of you doing it? 38 hours. He got a lot of money. That's pretty crazy, right? And that was just you going at it with this one dude? It's been a while. on a hand. I think it was like 14 million, 15 million bucks. out before playing just because you're freaking out?

2:10:12 What type of hands could he have? or add adderall or anything i took adderall and it really fucked me up because i just like Yeah, you just almost got to be sober. from getting nervous i would be really curious to see what that feels like yeah yeah no that'd these are, do you do like study strategy and read, Now they have I played 10 tables Mm-hmm.

2:12:50 right? So 10 times 100. So if you play in a casino, you're seeing about 20 hands an hour, What's his name? I mean, these guys are playing even more tables. He's got fucking six monitors here. Yeah, I mean, it's total bullshit. Like, for instance, it'll tell you how many hands each person plays preflop, and you're also playing the player like when you're playing live like you know for me i can

2:15:40 pushing the action and betting a lot. So online they can click that button and say all in and do these crazy bluffs, Like that's a very rare thing. I've seen it all. Like, you want a player to play like shit. played with a lot of guys that, you know, some of them ended up in jail. Some of them were fraud. is at a seven and you keep playing and whatever. and then now you go and play a thousand bucks a hand

2:18:48 If they lost, let's say, $100,000, just to use round numbers, at this game, poker for a living like it never ends like there it's like yeah no, like when you play poker for a living, like it never ends. Like there it's like, and i'm a victim of this too like i've found sometimes I've gotten far more angry at losing $20,000 than I have at I'd be ecstatic.

2:21:10 i'm like ecstatic you know what i'm saying so there's there's also something you were just Like, even guys like Jose Aldo, and he's really good when they fight I guess, in poker as well yeah um definitely i mean there's i've seen tons of times when somebody really hates another player and in fact like has just played far worse against really come after me. And then I ended up just smoking them, you know? So it's kind of like,

2:23:19 I'm not playing if he's there, oh, he gambles for a living, like he got lucky, or he's just good with numbers. doctor really. You know what I'm saying? Like that can't happen with most professions. Like Most people can't. it puts it in perspective yeah i mean just you know you've been through way more of a I'd never been able to do it outside um, outside of, you know, seal training. And the only

2:26:39 a hot chick or two hot chicks he had a sports car and everybody's like fuck this dude's a stud you like you know if you put a fucking guy up against the wall and he's got no choice then he's just Remember Richard Gere? I got nowhere else to go. I'm going to be an author. money and the fame and all that other stuff and now it's like these people that have been fucking

2:29:19 I mean, yeah, if he wants to continue his lifestyle, he does. He's got the belt. the shift in guys where they all of a sudden they do it for money and they start doing it for a living you see that shift and it's an ugly shift because He was like the star on the team or whatever. achieve this this perfect balance of motivation, reward, intensity, focus, discipline, but still pleasure.

2:31:54 Like you don't ever hit those highs unless you hit those lows. 16, like my dream car was, uh, um, a Mustang Cobra. Right. So if I got a Mustang Cobra, I would The only difference is your perspective because of your previous experience. Like if, if somebody bought me a Lamborghini, I'd be like, whatever, like I've had them. I don't Like it's kind of like a guy that wins a lotto.

2:34:46 You drive your Bentley to the club, and everybody's like, oh, it's Dan Bilzerian. now I have to get the biggest yacht now I got to buy an island yeah you know and trying to find like you know what i'm saying like but you don't have it if you don't but the pleasure is somewhat short-lived you know yeah i had a conversation with someone about this Yeah, once you have achieved this level of success where material possessions don't mean anything anymore

2:37:35 I go, what if you achieve a level of success where you don't worry about those things anymore? Then those material possessions no longer possess you. But try telling that to anybody who's listening to this. They get a new fishing rod. But to the people listening to this right now, You're not a dumb guy. So I don't think that that's the case. I think you're having a lot of fun and you're,

2:40:05 the fucking dirt. So then now I can move on and do something else. Like my life, you know, I have, And because they have it at their fingertips all the time, like when I was a kid, be five six people at a table and they'll all be on their phones and it's just like it's kind of wait, it was like flip phones. I have one friend, I want to hear your voice.

2:42:18 everybody's more connected now like back you know when we were kids like you know a guy in idaho is It's just like, and the whole thing's been like reduced to like online dating. Like they don't like people don't know how to like approach girls anymore. It's just like, I don't know. midwest boise idaho or whatever and you'll do a show there and the fucking people are on the ball

2:44:11 the internet you know just that access i mean when i was a kid if i wanted to know something my mom's You know? None of those visions of science fiction in the future had the internet. someone gives you a Lamborghini it's normal well this wealth of information chicks a hooker it's yeah you just got their life story it's like bam like was, the first time I tried, I was at burning man and i smoked a small amount of it

2:46:36 And I don't know if we did too much, but I just didn't really get too much out of it. yeah, it was almost like a video game, kind of, So the first time I did mushrooms, I think I was in high school. I got sick. And there was no, like, no ladders, no nothing. and there was a police station we're like oh shit like i guess we should ask them and like we went

2:49:41 first experience he's going to be in a jail in Amsterdam. This guy's going to fucking lose his mind. or the video of him pissing and getting arrested if you mail to his parents it's like get the fuck to just not even like have to like think about it because i have no desire to have sex right now i mountain it was like a very high hill we were below it and we were laying down the grass just

2:52:08 I saw it. is not this is not sky this is a thin layer of atmosphere that's protecting you from space that there's like some chemical um thing where it kind of like almost like resets their life. it's powerful. Drug addicts and, you know, even people that probably have other weird addictions like gambling addictions or sex addictions. Yeah. I mean, I, and I've preached this for a long time. I think just so much of your life

2:55:30 And, uh, and I, I was, I was fucked up and I ended up passing out and I forgot about it. And you know, is that ever like, you know, do you ever have, you know, moments where you're just like fucking And then when I came home, he's like, I'd just be, you know, a fucking military guy and everybody in my town wouldn't care. have gone you know but this guy just like accepted it, fucking charged with it.

2:57:42 that's, that's terrible. isn't it? He says, maybe. And the point of it is that you never really know if something is bad or good other than, oh, that's fucking terrible. to look at that in any way other than, the line we're gonna end it with some deep shit damn bilzerian i knew i'd get some deep shit out Holy shit.