Joe Rogan Experience #862 — Trevor Valle Transcript

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0:00 two one yes yes yes trevor we're here we're back yay two years almost to the day and we didn't even my uh my vengeance what is this crazy shirt you But no, they do stuff like that because you were promoting something you had to be yeah i had to be a little bit more clean cut You actually do real research. Like, why do you have to dress like everybody knows your credentials?

2:34 I forgot. He's hanging out in a coffee shop talking about nonsense. Yeah, I know, I know, like, R1 position guys at museums that are doing, like, full academics. And I ask them, what does a paleontologist look like? but if you were living in the 1970s, I'm also a science generalist. And I'm like, okay, I see where this is going. Like, I'm getting a round earth, like, hey, keep a secret, right?

4:36 moon hoaxers and Every space station mission that took video. Yeah. And he was talking about it briefly. problem and I both blame them and science at the same time how do you they're loud enough the distance between this rock and the You could do that anywhere. It's like, oh, your house is on a ley line and mine's off that. That was the thing with the whole face on Mars when the Mars reconnaissance orbiter

8:16 mountain. When they got high res pictures you go. Oh, well, it's just a trick of the the shadows and everything Or that one spot on Jupiter, you know, that one spot on the top of Jupiter? Yeah, I mean, it's a base. 19 different fucking stories it's like one it's like mind control the second one is yeah i mean nasa has a website where they predict contrails yeah they're super accurate yeah

11:30 It's a weird world we live in, Trevor. You can just do it. Yeah, at TakeThatDarwin. He's the general one. There really are. there was this bogus group that started a Facebook thing called Christians Against Dinosaurs. But they started to run with it and just like have a fun time. And we have found theropods the beast-footed One half of it is covered in feathers and the other other half of it, you just see the actual bones itself.

15:24 because we're just kind of piecing together their skin texture and just guessing on the colors every Yeah. You just shut everything down and focus on it real quick. you know in sand covering it and all that well that's one way and that's a very common way like That is hard to do. It can happen quickly, depending on the limestone, the amount of And I said, well, it's a fossil of a megalodon tooth.

18:13 Yeah. I've actually used the don't know and and that's the thing we get a lot of flack for that it was like how do you know it because that's hard to see. But people want to see, like, how do we know that it looked like this and a 65 and a half million year old, 20 foot long, like walking death machine. and you're looking at the great western inland sea and those areas,

22:26 you know, quarries and, you lick it. Radio, And other times you could be on the top of Horse Mountain sweeping something away You've got, let's see, the Royal Ontario Museum had a dig out in Alberta with the Cleveland Museum. We have to recover the paleo job market because it kind of sucks right now. They absolutely ate grains. No worries. Paleo diet bots?

26:25 But theatray is what people use. I hope so. And went, hey, if we take this with us, we can plant it. i'm a big dude i drink a lot of beer but you know i have a fairly moderate diet. I don't overdo it. Cause think of the lifestyle, i don't remember uh my ex-girlfriend had the book on her shelf and i always wanted to read it and i Oaxacan food? Okay.

29:18 It doesn't taste bad at all. Oh, it was great. I'll get you some before you leave. I'm totally down totally down for elk all right because the idea of that is just Yeah, absolutely. if we know how animals acted, the predator prey relationships, different ways that crazy yeah it's like it's hard to like if you're not if you don't do it if you're not into like

32:10 domesticating animals all the way to ISS, you know, in orbit, all of that piece of paper at Well, it was so long Yeah. There was one place where they were still alive. Well, I mean anything like along those lines. There are species that survived the Ice Age because as the glaciers receded and as the climate changed and as the predator-prairie relationships changed, it's harder for a saber-toothed cat to go after a horse or a rabbit or anything like that, the smaller animals that were able to out-compete them lived on.

35:34 should we get involved in that or should we just let them fucking die off stupid pandas idiocracy, man. Yeah. including Macmillan, or stories of the Kraken, They're this big fleshy thing I don't know what's on the other side of the room. Because they're intelligent. He specializes in trace fossils, like footprints and, um, what would it look like I have to ask him.

39:00 you know, that was the bass you picked up. and then that was the swordfish you got on the same trip. Because of the head. because they have big stubby hands, Then today you've got sperm whales blue whales the largest animal on the planet It's like we've mapped a lot of the undersea surface. If I had that kind of money, If it goes bad, it goes so bad.

42:21 35,000. What a freak. And it's just and they start freaking out That must be insane. Holy shit. Fuck, that's amazing. I've seen them off of Malibu around this time of year, right? used to work at the aquarium the pacific way back in the day and even that just like diving off of I mean, you really just going to say that. just horrible shit it's just and we want to go to mars they're out of their fucking mind

47:06 it flew in, It's fucking rad. Like Dan Bilzerian, he's not inventing any rockets anytime soon. They think that he destroyed his sexuality. That But in the same aspect of him being completely batshit insane, the reason why we're in the studio right now is because of AC Power. tower how high in new york to do what well he wanted to do it for free he wanted electricity

50:10 the video up on the screen and play the audio So it's just you broadcasting an idea. Yeah, the guy that does 200 proofs the earth is flat Keep going. wow yeah keep doing this what is it 20 minutes Fuck you. Spill there's nonsense and they're unchecked. Yes. Why I wanted to play this for you and They control their own criticism. Yeah. don't look as why do people think the world is flat or why do people think dinosaurs don't exist their google boolean search is dinosaurs don't exist or creationism is true evolution is false

56:47 Because they were all dead there could have been you didn't know what it was that's the thing it's like the same thing with Did the did the northern first people start licking bones and rocks? that's that's what that's what he does with fucking flat earth and the problem with this is like i was saying earlier because now the stupid minority has a Look, 3486 to 3493.

59:26 Here's another problem with the first iguanodon that was found. And they put it, and they made these really stupid statues she sells seashells on the seashore, because that's what she did as a child. But come on. I've got, yeah, where else is this stuff? Let's go somewhere that no one has been which means north america south It's not a scientific term.

1:02:18 Okay. Yes, Wayne Grady. When you have one dude that, you know, two dudes that have been training all their lives and trying shit yeah true true it's very it. Keep, keep this going. I meant cope. When things are discovered and it turns out that they're the same, It wasn't an outright fabrication. We have found entireties or near entireties of animals.

1:07:23 So, yeah, we will use 3D printing or casting of all that. We will have to use very technically, this is a cast. It is a replica of an actual existing bone that was wrapped, Then it has to be very carefully slid down a mountain on a car hood in one time. It just goes boom. like los angeles where things like earthquakes happen it's statements like that that he makes

1:10:51 numerous prehistoric animals found on a guy's farm by the way there's an entire private area whale in downtown la like with within blocks of the 110 freeway in Good Samaritan Hospital. I won't tell you where I can't but yeah Found all the time. Yeah. trying to it's absolute false equivocation he's trying to go oh well you know you can't find this a false fucking argument

1:15:26 oh oh oh really really hey guess what eric i ran a lab that we had three and a half million specimens from the ice But, Mammoth hot springs. to go toe-to-toe with somebody in the business i don't know like me and go okay start throwing all this data that's actually Let's keep going. Let's keep going with it. What were the dinosaur bones made out of?

1:19:10 There you go. Or it's done as a poster at the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology, which I which i guarantee you've never read or it's done as a Natural history museums are some of the lowest donated to institutions on the Non-profit. non-profit business? yeah there was um uh uh what was it called autopsy of a t-rex with uh my friend tori and uh that

1:23:42 The production company that did the the the thing with earth bullshit okay we're only seven minutes and 53 seconds into a 29 minute video oh fuck all Now I'm getting invested. it's like, I have you on note because we're both verified. It pops each other and all of a sudden in my feed it's like i have And have him on the show You want to be violent with him?

1:26:28 Duh, he's absolutely crazy. But that's the thing so all you psycom people out there we don't do it to try and convince the big They had wisdom. Oh. And you're like, yeah, you think it's real and she's like i've got a message well the thing is they've the Earth to the Sun. Yeah, this is the Nancy shit. Right. There's a huge difference between hypothesis, a theory, and a discovery.

1:31:14 Absolutely. Right. Who knows? I mean, well, JPL and guys like, I'll ask Fred on what, what are you doing Wednesday it goes all the way out and flings around and comes back who knows where they fake the Curiosity rover. He still hangs on to that chemtrail one hard. doesn't believe in dinosaurs he's going fucking chemtrail like what are you talking about so

1:33:14 And this idea is very attractive to him. you can be that person you can be that famous person it's like hey everybody guess what happened Yeah. You're not. i think that's the thing well that's like a little bit of a hump to the Earth. I would like to make a very public challenge that any flat earther advocate, if you show me a photo of Polaris with a timestamp and GPS coordinates of Australia, I'll believe flat Earth.

1:35:30 Right. And the poles are doing this. Totally logical. a good one that's a fun one it's like turtles all the way down it looks like a chocolate chip Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, there's a bunch of people that I get. I know I can move away. watch you squirm you get mad i get i get because it's your business yeah science ignorance pisses No, dude.

1:38:18 Yeah, come on. I've posted pictures of it. Yeah. sticker pack and all that from the bury them. The element, bury them that they think is in Chemtrails. They think it's this logo, and the other one is, if you can't beat them, bury them. He had proof from this lab that he had uh gotten these tests of this water yeah yeah and the water The laboratory results said sludge.

1:40:45 didn't exist i'm like i'm trying to be open-minded here but what you've done here is nonsense yeah information that is noble and you make informed decisions. You use, you know, you use substances to get into states. You are healthy. You work out. And the entire fact when you start doing commentary for UFC, you wanted to know what it was like. So you started training. You started working out. You're embracing the ideal of learning. That is woke as fuck.

1:42:46 Asteroid, we're fucked. billions of dead people. Likeian pakistan yeah um or you know everybody in state of israel versus uh anybody But if it's a low yield one, yeah, millions, maybe a billion people will die. We are tool using primates. I'm not a fan of the whole idea of war or nuke war or anything like that, but I understand the basis behind deterrence.

1:44:25 It's not like we're going to go to war and everybody dies. Things like that. Not yet. that a guy like him got so far million dollars yeah you hear that yeah how is that he donated it already he said why because crazy. And when people are talking crazy, sometimes and that their DNA, even though it looks like everybody else's, is different. Like, for them to fire him for that or be

1:48:14 Well, I'm a centrist. I'm a registered independent voter. Oh, yeah. Wow. Right. cattle on they didn't want to pay. Yeah. It's our land. and all that in order for us to enjoy that yeah exactly it was a very confusing argument the And in those resources, you're going to have food for animals. have grazed. with the recession of the glaciers they out competed mammoths they out competed

1:52:02 They got into the perfect environment to just go. better for you it's but we fucked that all up in the 1800s with like over hunting a bison and near Because there's just skinned buffalo carcasses, like as far as I can see, because they were just going for the pelts. It's fucking crazy. And they're spending a lot of money, and they're also running block management on it, which

1:54:50 There's a guy named, Right. If you are taking burrowing owls, That's true. farming and things along those lines. thousands of years ago. current wildlife populations are greatly diminished. near a thing like that you should be tolerant of wildlife well the problem is if like it They're just going to fucking headbutt that fence. rate um what is their current uh birth to death ratio how are they impacting a place that they

1:59:30 playing playing creator in a lot of ways by introducing these things um we have a big living relative which is the asian elephant that means we have to harvest an egg from a female asian elephant which is interaction we're not quite sure yet but definitely through an inability to adapt to a changing bringing back that pigeon i mean obviously there's a principle because their response we're

2:02:39 and not the woolly mammoth? I don't even know they existed. and we should just leave well enough alone? Cassowaries are fucking dinosaur. It's basically this really cool-looking, semi-flightless bird. there we go oh those guys coming at it with a board yeah it's like you you will get owned by a And look, hey, that's like a T-Rex foot. and just snap that leg.

2:05:58 Okay, they do look cooler for the head, Like literally, it's a walking transitionary fossil. Back during the age of mammals, post-dinosaur, we had things called terror birds. know if they are i don't look like it right don't believe so it is kind of amazing when you when you If you want to listen to him, too, he's on the Meat Eater podcast with Steve Rinella.

2:08:11 and then now they're everywhere there's wild horses thousands of them tens of thousands all And beyond that, so everybody's like, oh, we had cheetahs and we had- 8,000 pounds 8,000 pounds It's cat by the way But we can guess Oh, okay. And I thought it was a mountain lion, because I saw it for like a second, like not even a second, like a half a second.

2:10:42 one of the So can they breed and make a hybrid like a liger and no not even no not even close. That's interesting Look at the grasses and the- blend into the background especially from a distance if they're not moving because most Yeah. Yeah. Just fighting off the gay like it's a horde of angry zombies coming over a hill that picture of Ken Ham I see a problem for science and science education and everything going forward because these

2:14:29 What one was this called? It's a salt beer. Well, I've always been into beer. You know the whole menu here It is magnetic. Are stickers magnetic? It's like Ray Comfort. You mean awesome movie like God's Not Dead? Rotten Tomatoes. It's one of the last VHS tapes that I bought. I remember when those came out in bookstores, the actual book series. it's kind of yeah but the thing

2:18:01 of the atheist nightmare the banana i'm thinking of the other jackass. That's Ken Ham. Okay, hey, atheist Twitter followers, don't roll me for this. but think of what he did. That's set up at the bottom of the zip line. So where were the dinosaurs on the Ark? They were all just doing each other. Stuff like that. of thinking that kind of uh ray comfort thinking is going to be around as long as we have youtube

2:21:11 limitations and we're going to live in some sort of an augmented reality, augmented by technology. lasers doing science on a different planet and we have two probes rapidly exiting the solar system, that make these videos about dinosaurs not being real degrasse yeah he's a silly he's a silly man you know i mean he's just a rapper right he doesn't Not really.

2:23:31 I don't think it's going to last. Well, for you, because you keep buying into it. Right. I think I'm a vindictive narcissistic assholes, too. Even when they're doing it to other people they deserve to have it done to them right i'm a vindictive narcissistic asshole even when they're doing it to other people they're doing It looked like the the little fucking dinosaur on it

2:25:37 Now, a team of American scientists Because mammals existed during the time of dinosaurs. a bear and a sheep and a sloth From... I know a lot of anti-homeopathy people that go and get the homeopathy Look, we've got food. I do yoga. So I'm around these people all the time true yeah but all those things seem to be human qualities no no no just for scorpios just for

2:28:58 You know I had a good friend of mine who I really respect telling me that astrology is real then he conducts an astrologer You know, tell him to tell you a lottery ticket. Yeah. watched yuri geller do it and the whole deal and it's if you work in enough and magicians have the type of mentality and patience and discipline to do this over and over and over again, shuffling cards a thousand times a day until it's just rote memorization.

2:30:57 of it that's the common thing i'm not spoiling any magic trick so it looks like a spoon that's Sounds like a regular spoon. Melting point of gallium is only 86 degrees Fahrenheit. And it's not even that hot that it would hurt you. Or there's a way to pinch it between your fingers and start rubbing it. So what's happening here? Yeah. You can mine it?

2:33:08 That's the entire point of your show. listen, That's cool. oh yeah started with an r started like robert richard or something what was that fucking guy's Did you? because I think what we're dealing with now is very limited mediums of writing things are going to completely change and revamp the way we communicate going into the singularity yeah And then you get lazy and then, you know, all sorts of weird behavior.

2:36:57 you it's a sauna and you eat a bunch and you do the whole thing i'm gonna help you out here And then, you know, you always connect that to ancient Rome. They did all over the course of hundreds of years. They built these amazing massive structures I can only imagine that. I didn't know where I was. Yeah. it's a absolutely the religious aspect and spiritual aspect to me is completely irrelevant

2:39:52 know if there's no God because you've never experienced death it's you don't Because if you think about it He was saying why don't you just come out as an atheist? of the atheist society we get together right yeah right like that's happened with the skeptics It's like a bunch of people are meeting up and talking about things and they But do they need that at conferences? Isn't that just common human nature they needed it they needed

2:42:50 I played tennis. tracks that i go talk on the science track you know talk about beer and cooking or dinosaurs or didn't die either. Those kids You can't hold a smile on that. I'm happy he lived. Spoiler these little kids are tiny little stubby shitty human legs That motherfucker. Yeah. No. They don't have the grip to grab a- So not like an eagle that can grab a salmon.

2:46:20 Like Chris Pratt's face? No. Well no she's They went crazy science fiction Okay, about that term. That's why they're calling white people honkies. you're trying to eliminate And it has pissed them off. Oh, God. Anyway, dude. pussy. Oh, yeah, you're a chump. Alright, see some dudes just chomp is where they draw the line that's fucking no he got mad and then he

2:49:10 What can you call us? Not Jews in specific. That was a serious slur back in the day. Fuck yeah, that's sticking. Fucking fact well what right white privilege is is sort of the lack of racism against white people and So to say that white people somehow are at fault because there is a racist bias against people who are brown or black or Asian or what have you, it really shifts the blame in a weird way, in my opinion. I mean, I think it's a real thing, for sure, but I think really what we should concentrate on,

2:51:32 to understand that yes because you are white you are privileged because you are white you will not And I think it's a chaotic, ridiculous amount of pressure that these people have to endure on a daily basis. Absolutely very few. Oh, yeah. And without doing it with gentrification, without going in there because, hey, that's And everybody just turns a fucking blind eye to it.

2:54:37 Give me a second so I don't sound like a ranting idiot. I want to watch him get fucking beat red. Because of that, because of the reach you have, I don't nearly have the reach you have, but because of the reach you have i don't nearly have the is happening specifically in your community we are one species we are homo sapien sapien it's our job because we're affecting the

2:56:45 I have an idea. This is simple physics. Last second mergers improve traffic. That's a big car. I love those cars. So do I. started but they look like you they have like yellow beards and well wear weird clothes player that they came up with for cars in the 1950s, I want to say. Whoa. It would be $410 today, and you can play your own 45s on it. This is pretty fucking dope.

3:00:28 Oh, he's got a stack. play the next one. Oh, yeah, good idea. Something about that old music that reminds me of like grandma's house, like right before Absolutely. We could make this happen. Tiki No is a badass tiki bar in North Hollywood. Cheers, sir. Stuff like that. We'll be back tomorrow with Duncan Trussell.