Joe Rogan Experience #863 — Duncan Trussell Transcript

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0:00 Oh shit, I put it in airplane mode, okay. And it's infinity candles. good because he gets into your fucking head man because he like carl jung will get in your head Or like Burroughs. Like, Naked Lunch, that was him, right? God, I wish I could write like that, man. Is the amount of time that you would have to spend writing. the doubling of the human brain size one.

3:01 more experimental and that that it could be coincided with a bunch of What do you mean a straight guy? With the psilocybin, they could tell when the angle was ever so slightly varied quicker Mushrooms are known to make people horny, so that happens. But it might be a nutrient too. they've been doing these studies on neurons on repairing neurons and psilocybin

6:33 You're hungry. The thing you're hunting, shitting food is growing out of it. Shit. I think it was way later when they started doing that. I think I'm almost positive that McKenna's idea was not that they were hunting these things, but they were flipping over cow patties looking for beetles and grubs and worms and stuff. No. Like, almost like it's a crazy lacrosse ball.

8:50 And they're not very accurate. Yeah, what is that? because chimps have decided to just start lobbing rocks at them. they're thinking that they're in a new place now they're thinking they're starting to use tools Yeah, I did see that shit. I have a fucking picture of him hanging over the river with a spear in his hand But it's funny that the two are coinciding like it's funny that it appears now

12:14 looking over at this little puddle that they have fish in. yeah right it seems like something they did for science yeah like they figured out a way to teach Like there are other species that do it. innovate this himself who taught a real good question who taught him that and this isn't even Yeah. That fish is like, what in the fuck just happened? I mean, bigger than a puppy like that thing's bigger than his head that's that's like a full-size dog oh yeah for sure but

15:27 going into your sink or whatever. but they don't, they can't, whatever way they use to think, they can't process it, right? And the way it manifested is like, oh, a car wreck. They smash you. But we don't, I mean, really, we don't know. you get some altitude, you can see this whole new perspective on what things look like from a high So flight transformed human reality in this intense way.

18:48 object instead of a thing that we're stuck inside of that's like the next big liftoff and that super stoned four years ago like they were saying you could use like the power of a star or something So, like, you know, we're looking for aliens inside of time and space, you know. How hot were you? It, like, dried itself off. It went through this whole thing. It was like watching it it's really cool you know it's like it like dried

21:40 with local bees did i tell you that no i didn't tell you that no this is a fascinating uh moment It's really interesting. And all of his bees went up Can you get me on that show? They talked it out for a half an hour, and then the other bees went their separate way. Yeah. going on i mean just that yeah you know that if that's happening with bees there's then it's

24:49 like what do you mean so it's like okay like let's just take it from the human level okay It's like they're only friends with celebrities and they're only friends. excluding excluding excluding excluding all these other fucking people right right and so the moment fuck with them bloodlines and stuff. I mean, it was an intentional form of like wealth eugenics

27:39 you become friends with some weirdo painter dude i mean how much do you guys have in common it You have to change the way a person thinks. Country club. Stuff's going to come to you that you would never expect when you stop being, when you reduce your exclusivity. Or plant life or whatever it is. but I feel like I can communicate with this plant in some way.

29:55 There you go. thin air but going back to what you were saying earlier about ants and the system that ants live And we also know that all throughout nature there's animals that are blind. down? They used to think it was 11, That's it. it's not just as simple as I love it. Yeah. Oh, it's shocking like when you're not even supposed to do it He goes, I love you too.

33:10 And the thing that I've been thinking lately or just playing around this idea is like, what if? I don't even want to call it an alternate universe, the actual universe. So when you're with someone who's like, I love you, I really love you, A person who's very egotistical is living in a shadowy world. Let it in. We just don't have the ability to access them.

35:59 Where's the fucking aliens? I don't see the aliens in my hand. hundred thousand years i think from now to a time machine if we stay alive if we don't blow and then go back in time and smack them and then go back in time and kiss them. and then it becomes worldwide did we talk about directed panspermia already as related to time travel no i don't think so so it's like the idea

39:22 like dna you create a kind of packaged thing And you know that when it lands on the road and the seed finds the right soil, it's going to grow into a technological tree that at the end of its growth is going to flower with your point B, the end of your time machine. we're opening up the point B in some kind of interstellar time machine. and go to any place at any point in time and even drop the seeds of life on a planet.

41:16 And then they're going to come back like the Silver Surfer That when these to achieve this state. And that when these things achieve this state, that we can see, let's pretend that's the universe. which means that not only is there intelligent life Different paths you could have taken. that thing the same thing in different places it's not like there's a gray alien with big black eyes

43:54 And there's also a probability that this isn't base reality. we're in like a, I mean, to use Hemingway just got generated in my universe simulator by one of the simulated creatures that I had in there. that's interesting that's a new form of teleportation i haven't seen that before it's a and dies and throughout that it can pick out an interesting moment it's like look at this

46:36 What are those games called? can procedurally generate that's also going to procedurally generate you know what we consider just suddenly it's like wait they got boring it got boring and it got you know high expectations. run your computer and your universe will at some point I think there's something weird that we do, too, where we look at things that we can generate with a computer versus things that sort of exist in the real world.

50:08 Right? That doesn't mean anything. but those things aren't any more significant than trees, crazier and better things yeah but all of these things made by a star explosion right yeah i guess An individual? I I'll say I'm a theist, man. well what is it an individual i think it's like there's lots of different ways of saying it and you've started worshiping it as though it were your god your ability to not articulate the thing

53:56 song yeah you begin to experience a shift in your subjective reality then i think it's worth It's still a shift in your consciousness through what appears to be a decision, appears to be a decision that you've made to gravitate towards God. to define the universe right so my defining the universe as the universe being this thing that It seems to exist pretty much everywhere you look.

57:18 But inside of all of us are a bunch of different animals that are all little tiny ecosystems. They're a life system. Yeah. measure it's moving and it's not moving it's there and it's gone this is how small the life form of a The entire universe itself. really fucking old man and then i'm gonna try to say try to say that it's got a great name that I always say it wrong and I always get corrected.

1:00:25 Okay. And that which is above is like that, tablet dude they didn't have podcasts they used to like have to carve infinitely smaller than that by the way he was i think a lot of these guys they were fucking around with mercury a lot and like it Well, I mean, checking on it is one way to put it. Another way to put it is like it may be that some of these people figured out ways to directly communicate with this intelligence that I certainly believe in.

1:02:50 was like that's a that's a whole lot i mean christian's a big word never married although individuals that are brilliant beyond beyond the norm like tesla who was also like a weird guy like what are we doing that makes any fucking sense? It's like, Virus that came in through what Roswell and is now spreading through our through. That's the most popular conspiracy theory when it comes to the creation of the transistor.

1:05:14 for this stuff. But I think it's funny because for us we're like, okay, the way we would get technology is by a metal craft shooting into the earth. The very exact thing because we were talking about might be a life form it might be as much of a life form as a physical thing like like a person shifts in our society that that that's because if you look at like tesla where he got his ideas and i don't know

1:08:47 It was LSD. way but just like the way that a uh something that is molted has to like discard it so he was That got his research cancelled. Yeah, that was one of the things that got this the project she was living with a dolphin acid and i have to do flips for fat kids fuck this man fuck this gig she jerks you off how Yeah. Right. when he came to visit her at work like he started getting a vibe that she was jerking off the

1:12:36 Wait, what did it say? Like, this guy, like, this guy, like, he doesn't insult the crow, but the crow really, like, Hello. Fuck you. Yeah. I put it up on my Instagram. That's so cool. Anyway, so he flies over there. He gets He's getting really close. He They fall off the fucking roof. And that bird's like, dude, what's up? Ravens are always thought to be satanic, right?

1:15:58 What was the Edgar Allan Poe poem about the raven? Like, ever. in the world must just run in some shitty way. And like, I know what that's like because anyone who's taken MDMA, like she just coughed up a big spray of blood so he had a rough life well not pot that's illegal Just makes you it's a nicer drug You know, like, well, Trump seems trump seems like a you know fun guy to

1:20:12 What? Do you really think that- writing in. I'm not writing in Bag of Tarantulas. Traitorous, that word? You're doing something for profit and for you, keeping people in jail, enforcing laws. There's a business in that. It's a huge business. We don't Just like they had to give it up with alcohol. And it's like, the Huffington post called, It has worked with AIDS. So you can't villainize the entire foundation but what's fucked up is the

1:24:36 So that's where it's like, that's where the corruption is. itself yeah right so when you watch that faint where she's like you got it from putin it was She fucking baited him. bitter comfort that we have, is that a montage of clinton fucking stink eyes have you seen like how good she is at giving the stink eye Like it felt like, fuck, she knows I'm trying to like do this tweet about her weird outfit.

1:27:22 I think she was like super effective though in just taking the moral high ground her yeah i well i mean you have like terms of debate tactics They're like, all right, I got to go. psychological analysis and also some of the dna data we got from and she did it last night she did it in every single fucking debate and it's not like she's you fucking kidding we got trump we got fucking trump we got trump trump hold on let me go to the

1:30:21 Yeah, two days to build. How are you guys feeling? for him you're like my god even with all his like maliciousness and like weird perviness and stuff A lot of crazy shit can happen in 21 days They're not talking to you. happens in the polls does reflect how the United States feels. But there's no way it could be 100% accurate because it's not polling 100% of the people. And I think part of the problem with

1:33:06 They don't come out to vote. Yeah. I'm saying it affects the event itself. Yeah, he said that women should be He's like... He really said that? You're getting very worked up. It's like enough that she mentioned it in the last debate well yeah i mean it's it's hard to say too because a lot of his positions on things says women should oh, I have not Okay, so he still believes that doctors who perform illegal abortions, there should be some sort of punishment for them.

1:36:03 Yeah. Does he? He said that last night. what people can and can't do with their body I'm legitimately asking. She's doing it for profit, 100%. laws? That doesn't make any sense. they're trying to do recreational marijuana from being passed in Arizona money from these pain pills companies. Right. Oh, it's so gross. What a fucking mess, man. But it didn't happen.

1:39:28 he looks at it from the perspective of someone who's like seen so many different election cycles It's, like, crazy. More veterans have killed themselves than have been killed in war. Hardly at all. And it's like to just imagine like, by the way, here's another thing, man. You have difficulty expressing emotions. please jimmy there's 17 to 22 every day make that a a little larger, please. Wow. Look at that, man.

1:42:14 anywhere from height of the Iraqi, Yeah. It says more than 6,800 troops have died in Iraq and Afghanistan and more than 3,000 additional That doesn't mean like all told. There it goes. involving vets not enrolled in the VA's health care system. It's too many. It's still a lot of fucking people. Yeah. not to mention you have many of these people have brain trauma.

1:45:20 A lot of kids, they don't know their dad has PTSD. talking about it it's just a weird popularity contest for them to get into this position of And right now the current event spark is grabbing pussies and email scandals how much does this bitch take yoga? I might have a hundred. how like who's the new leader of korea it's kim jong-un right ill was the first unes the second

1:49:14 So in the same way, Assange has started like leaking this information to us. Like, even if it is above the board, like even if what you're doing is above the board these honest people rise to power would be fucking corrupt so strange so strange so and we show that the You want to you want it. have to sit and think fuck man they did they get those fucking pictures from the bohemian grove you

1:52:18 that email scandal shit like that email stuff would have put anybody else in jail right i mean no one is saying it was fine and heard crazy talk about it being 30,000 Using drones on Julian Assange. Both of them give me the fucking heebie-jeebies, man. internet fucking sucks yeah so here's what you do schedule one of those flash mobs where i don't Do you have a Guy Fawkes business?

1:55:07 That's ridiculous. Wow, that balcony is so close. The fact that his door is Yeah, it sucks. you know how that guy fucking sleeps he sleeps like a fucking hero when that guy goes to bed like this. He dances like a goth. thing. It's not just... You weren't for that, man! on some pot cookies, or on acid, or something. I mean, people are weird. Yes, there's nothing wrong with the way he dances.

1:57:49 I put up this thing on Instagram about all the evidence that you're being brainwashed, Yeah. It's like, I'm, you know, talking massages sometimes suck, but like this is like. This like what one of the best fucking that the conspiracy ones buddy And you take the check. The earth is, I don't know how you knew. It's flat. 50 bucks that's cool you don't want them to think you're unreasonable oh he wants 50 million dollars

2:00:57 Illuminati. I am in the Illuminati. Okay. Is that real? Is there any other kind? No, what's that? Oh, that is so funny. a new clown but the clowns wouldn't acknowledge each other like they just happened to be getting where you're like there are two rules they don't i don't know if you can call them rules but their Yeah, it is for fun, but then there's like theory behind it.

2:05:25 something like that and prior to that there was something called the suicide club which was are Dude, they were launching flaming fucking pianos That's a great way to put it. When did we start one? Well, we just started a second branch but we started a branch when today right when did we start one well we just started a second branch i started a branch with who we i say i we well

2:07:14 Who's we? We met at Gelson's Like, I'm like, well, you definitely have lost your mind, man. and then uh and then what do your pajamas look like i wore captain america pajamas so wore Captain America pajamas. Fuck yeah, Duncan. But then ruined the do you want to build a snowman from Frozen? offer final toasts and sing do you want to build a snowman meet at noshing and imbibing the Gelson's bar. Holy shit. Bring sleeping bags.

2:09:52 You are? Well, I don't know. And then I kept hearing this guy's name, John Law, John Law, John Law. then everybody who decides to participate they uh they come up with their own events you know so evening groceries and they're just kind of like look over at you they get the biggest smile on sitting at the deli pretending to like be eating their dinner but they kept looking over like

2:12:55 other than like, which is, I think, the idea of taking people out to the fucking desert originally. He wanted people to think that a Whole Foods was coming to Silver Lake. they'll get the top of it. He's so, and dude, he commits to this. yeah and he commits a hundred percent over you know you were um talking about burning man before the podcast we were on the phone we

2:15:58 Isn't that fucking cool? Oh my God. Of course they have, right? You just come. nothing. No, you can't buy anything there. So one of the bars and forgive me if I, if I say the That's hilarious. you know, the guys like a lot made some pretty obvious lies and then we're drinking there drinking me and me and Cora sitting there drinking and like, you know, the guys like made some pretty obvious lies. And then we're drinking like, hey, so we really feels like, oh, yeah.

2:18:34 You, uh, slap an American flag on anything out there and they'll buy anything. And we're like, Like I come here, I'm not good at lying. types of like bars or art imagine like let's say and you know i don't take psychedelics and if i And like. It just rides through the desert. to each other. develop a city like this? Well, they do have the year lots of people are like getting together and planning like what they're gonna i'm i'm

2:22:08 the ear beatings that Burning Man people give their friends. So look up the YouTube video. Because you really do, guess you have to have did you wear them like uh yeah you have to wear them because they're these even know what they were talking about so you pedal in and you see people standing in front that same kind of like sweet grief And that's the end of Burning Man.

2:25:30 Yeah. Or like, it's also happening because you realize like, oh fuck, this is not only a festival. Yeah, yeah. those guys are so fucking cool, man. So their idea was to mirror the Holocaust or to create like not that you could do that, but to create like some like a response to it. And they want hardcore Republican values. There's a lot of people that are still clinging to that.

2:28:16 is at an all-time low. And people that are The kids of today, they're going straight WikiLeaks from fucking high school. It's not a fucking hoax. And I've been responsible for it myself. Yes. was like a hardcore like black he hated white people white people are the devil you're the devil so anyway, like, yeah, like Sharpton was like, you let yourself down by not being part of this, by not getting arrested.

2:32:09 you're like well i might sell it one day right or who knows i'm gonna definitely need this vibrating family and people around you who are fucking some people really need stuff man and like it won't He's like, if these people were out here for more than four weeks, they'd start killing each other. go yeah so think of generosity as the ability to drop little love bombs yeah you know that's that's

2:34:26 forgive me. Uh, and they go, oh, that was a good tip. words and your you know your love and all that good stuff but you can express and uh my girlfriend and i we went to this uh arcade that gives out tickets like one of those like hey kid take this gave him this huge fucking stack of tickets dude the look on that kid's face This person might not have money to get their kids fucking groceries that week, man.

2:37:36 dude there were like people who would go around with like spray bottles and just spray your That's it. Like it does. Well, I well I'll tell you man. My man. My hope is that you and I will run. No, no, no, no, no. What have you said? All right. the fantasy of the fucking people like grab your guns go rob the rich people all that stuff the There's people who know how to fix roads.

2:40:44 We need DirecTV. It could still happen. Do you think they have a checkbox? Zendo, And so, like, you go to this place and it's like, dude, you got to have this guy on your podcast. trained clinicians and if they're not clinicians they've their people have been through this Yeah. like you know we sit here and we fucking rail against the system and ah marijuana and like ah

2:43:52 It is cool. if people who have PTSD, if they go to the doctor, the doctor will be like, well, he should get a nobel prize i think he did explain it on this podcast didn't he did do you remember God forgive me, everyone listening, Doblin,en colmart whoever i'm ruining this in front That's right. to keep up this nasty business of arresting people for the wrong kind of drugs

2:47:10 go to the MAPS website. cool thing if you want to chip in money for it's super fucking cool like that's like how often do Yeah. I was listening to this McKenna interview There's a way of talking when you're talking about public radio. Remember that guy? Hello. There's no judgment. Donate. Yeah, they got him. I think you have to buy them now. So that's where that money comes from.

2:51:08 As long as you just keep having tickets, then you'll have more money to spend on more hospitals, much it costs for the hospital. So, but why wouldn't they just allow more people to buy tickets? influx of dough but like they uh yeah there it is the Bureau of Land Management Bureau of Land you're paying us. they have a reasonable concern that it could get completely overrun with hippies

2:52:59 But here's my question. Yeah. Oh, 30. Man. Matter out of place. They will bring like a team of 11 people in to sift through the sand to get every single I just wonder like this doesn't exist 30, 40 years ago. you know, that's literally what it is before it all starts getting crazy you're the other cool thing is dude when you're looking at these sculptures you don't see like a plaque

2:56:46 how are they fueling this what the fuck is this or like the mat there's tesla coils everywhere That's amazing. I didn't see that. catacombs 2016 burning man you should look up like the burning oh you're not allowed to show it well Yeah. whoa the dust devils are incredible yeah that's wild man the little dust tornadoes just roam had this idea of what's called the zone trip which is that if you take a group of people and bring them out of their natural habitat

2:59:58 Really? Everybody wants to know, like, well, what was the reason behind it? That was the first Burning Man. When does it take place? Well, you can look it up. maybe I do have to go but when you go you gotta power lines and shit because it was because it's is you could be a little too inclusive there. Not that that's hard or anything, but it's like when you're driving an RV, um, out of

3:03:00 it's not necessarily supposed to be easy. Like, it's, like, part of it's really fucking hard and, like, really tries you for real. And it was like a guy who clearly didn't get the whole point of the thing from white ocean put up like what you did to us and it was like a event itself well that's the problem there's no one idea behind the event itself. Well, that's the problem

3:04:49 Yeah. If you build it, they will come. Just to see what it's like? boners it's's crazy, dude. Yeah. You got to bring someone that other people want to fuck. The orgy dome rules. Almost everybody, except the rare few that are actually asexual. There's a lot of like stuff like that that goes on and everyone's super like, I mean, What in the foot they're hitting each other yeah they're hitting each other

3:08:08 Boom. They just wait for someone to shoot someone or beat somebody up or something? there you go cops on atvs yeah there you go with tatas yeah yeah it's pretty funny With fake money. I don't know if that's true. we've got to talk about this. I'm glad we did,