Joe Rogan Experience #874 — Scott Adams Transcript

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0:00 Scott Adams, ladies and gentlemen, here we are. Do you remember my humiliation that day? And they said, when he says that, you say your line. should I go? And I said to myself, 50, 50 chance, right? I either, I either ruined the scene by I mean, it's very impressive if you're not an actor to watch how many lines a bunch of professionals can do without screwing up any of them.

2:34 Let's try this. Oh, man. And I'm thinking, I could do seven notes, Yeah. People say that about my job as well. Did you feel that? And so I was meeting everybody. Right. no other memories in my database i had a totally different experience that day well it's also i did And one of you will be telling a story like, do you remember the time? That does happen with people. Human memory is really flawed. It's really flawed.

6:45 You just went real deep real quick. I don't want you to freak out. I'd be willing to try it a second time, is what but along this election cycle, all of a sudden, You would assume that you would be a left-wing guy, like almost immediately. No, I didn't know you were a hypnotist. That's the normal view of the world. They're just different. You could believe that you're a monk.

10:37 So Steven Seagal can be standing in a grocery store next to, let's say, a Muslim who believes that his prophet literally flew to heaven on a winged horse. We don't need any of that. meaning that he is the most persuasive living human I've ever experienced. Because they can either try to, like, deny they said it, She said, you said this, this, and this about women.

13:25 And really, you know, you can't touch the question. well, the other visual things he does is he says, build a wall. And you can just imagine a wall. distorted to the type of thing you might hear from Hillary Clinton. He says they put you in cages kill shots. It's not just an insult. It's not just a clever nickname. And we saw Clinton try I had a good impression of Jeb Bush.

16:11 Competent CEO, exactly. And as soon as Trump said low energy, could you see him any other way? it would be his face. that started saying that Ted was the Zodiac Killer? And did your father kill somebody? Did you see, but you thought of that in a physical sense, his nicknames, you could say, He most certainly is. You know what playing the dozens is?

19:14 has decades and decades and decades of this, like Donald Trump at a very high level, because he's So he knows business. And you would say if you looked at any one of those things, he's not the best you've ever seen. Like he'll say, you know, I'm going to be honest with you. done it before but even like in delivering lines you've got to know when to not talk.

21:38 He should have just said the wall just got 10 foot higher. Well, let me just finish this off. deny that 30,000 people in a stadium with red hats on, they were feeling something. like the thing about him saying something about Hillary lacking stamina He just screamed at a rally, and it was over. The wind came out of the balloon. But you know what Howard Dean got knocked out of the race just for screaming? He just screamed at a rally and it was over.

23:55 You know, he should have come on and he should have done something to make fun of it. Like Hulk Hogan suplexes the Iron Sheik. Right. You say, shit, I love you again. think that we're living in a simulation right but as he would give these speeches and there He was always saying he was the energy guy. I mean, by election day, not a lot of people were saying, well, I sure like that TPP stand.

27:06 were giving her a hard time because she's a woman on her health and i was like you are out of your I know the impulsiveness that it bestows upon people. She's an older, rich, white woman. She's definitely not healthy. That's her shit. I'm asking you a specific question. right huge issue huge huge honor um that that that was a part of what they were voting for.

30:53 So couldn't get, you know, couldn't get right. That's so not true. That's true. You know talk wise into anything for candy I don't know if I want a woman president. That's absolutely a factor. who was just talking to me and we're friends buried in her backyard. because I think it was a net positive. You're not answering polls. It's a jury duty problem.

33:31 He does 538 website, the best statistician on politics. But, you know, they always converge toward Try to imagine my life. I think you're right. And they're angry at you. Right. Yeah, I guess so. Here's the thing that I think is important to make a distinction. Say if you're a scientist and you take a plant that you find in the Amazon, They're latching on like really shamelessly where they tweet about Trump all the time now.

37:28 Interesting. Someone who would be a role model and all that. men as their role models anyway? I mean, I don't know if that happens a lot anyway. So that's interesting. country the world's ever known, like that guy should probably not do that. I'm going to put If you have an opinion on it. No, that was just an example of him changing when he became more informed.

41:25 No, and here's how it's different. And my God, there's a hordes coming over the border. And everybody says, my God, I'm happy now. You know what I mean? What's hilarious is in 2012, he was saying it was a rigged system because of that contest. Yeah. In all of history, that's never changed anybody's mind. Don't you think that being the president is an impossible job?

44:39 Well, you have to match the personality and the time, right? So you could have a president who was just terrific in wartime but weren't much good in anything else. coverage. They'll just have to fix it. So where are we today? Everybody's saying, I'm not sure the fix looks like a miracle fix. With really fucking crazy signs man. There wasn't a whole lot of love and compassion on their signs

47:22 because they have different information because they're looking at different sources. I mean, they might be fluffed up a little bit. I don't know. But there's definitely people that People, you know, this guy. So in the beginning of the election, Trump had the best persuasion because he was saying the terrorists are coming in. And all the surrogates used it at the same time.

49:47 So she really had that going. the hardcore kind. I've never even met one. I bet we can introduce you to some people if we And the Clinton supporters think that Hitler actually got elected. So they're acting on that. So what's happened is that Clinton and her e-mails and all that stuff, the hacked emails from her server, there would be repercussions militarily.

52:47 stole your email I stopped several years ago. Don't think this is serious. or some Russian hackers were involved. Who believed that it was Russia and who didn't believe it was Russia? And it was a shit joke, too. None. She went code red. And it's going to make some people very happy. And all the things that have been annoying you about people nitpicking about behaviors and insults and you know safe words and safe spaces and all that stuff's kind of gone uh yeah i mean yeah so it does affect the way people think and

57:11 And I think that's why we went from Carter to Reagan. This is woman of the year for Glamour magazine. And she fucking doesn't believe in gay marriage. When there's 78 different gender pronouns there's an automatic slingshot effect and they start and you can watch them here's my take on that people don't ask a lot from other people But they're not asking a lot.

1:00:03 Well, it represents not just slavery, which is one of the most awful things that has ever happened to human beings. And I hate to be insensitive, but they weren't the winning side. Right. Your problems tend to be mental. Yeah. Right. they killed a lot of Americans. You could have Well, we conquered much of the world, that there's some people there's never a group there's never 100 compliance and group mindset of any fucking country it's

1:02:50 I was thinking about that once because I went to Chichen Itza, where the Mayan pyramids are in the Yucatan. Symbols are very strange. We accept them I've never met a grown man that's like a manly guy who knows less, cares less about cars. I've had conversations with him. You should fucking know what that is. about cars that was the other thing about the caitlin thing that drove me crazy she killed

1:05:18 this horrific accident that cost some fellow God damn it. That could have worked. This is why it's called the laptop. People lean back on him because he's so big. What does a giant person do? Yeah, he's had some custom-made cars where they literally take the seat out of the front and install it in the back. Miata and sitting in the trunk I bet he can't drive a Miata I bet he can't I bet

1:07:59 But I know for sure they had one of those custom TV shows, custom car shows where they do things for people. It sounds like something you do for TV. old Porsches. Little tiny ones. Probably most. He's not the worst human in the world. she was born a man and If you want to focus on someone who's a transgender person, maybe that would be a good example.

1:10:15 Yeah, I mean, no one's really into the decathlon. It doesn't have a professional venue other than fake wrestling. There's there I saw I was watching so much tribal behavior instead of like insulting Hillary supporters Do you think that's true? It's over. to. And this is not obviously I'm not using a broad blanket to paint all sports fans. But I Well, that almost works until you consider

1:12:57 Because Raiders is like rap music. Meanwhile, the Cubs are new every year. It's nuts. You know, sometimes they don't. Do you think that was conscious or it's just what was conscious? God damn it, I think it was Radiolab. American football. Fields the most American team of all. No, no, no, no. And then the Carlisle Indian School, they were beating the fuck out of all the white dudes.

1:16:45 So they said, okay, make it a new rule. Not a profitable amount. What do you need, like 16% to get money? You need like a certain amount of Native American in me. Can you get money? Not a profitable amount. Just tuck them away in this little patch and doing whatever the fuck they want. And there's no flag, which is really interesting when you, Logo was, yeah.

1:18:48 Well, it depends also upon what a person becomes. you can take someone's... this might not be a great example of it. up speak is right I love up speak because it's so fuck it's it's this They have this weird thing that like they're halfway an an NPR sort of radio personality, There's a bunch of people that they speak, and it is an accent the same way a New York accent or a Boston accent is.

1:22:29 Women can do it too. Do you ever know somebody who didn't have any way to end a story? by sentences don't ever end. It's not that they And then they just keep going. Can we do it at 7? They love to talk. No, they'd say, he's a dick. Finish it. Because what the hell does that mean? Get rid of that. But that would be you sometimes right and that's that is yourself but it's like yourself varies depending upon your

1:25:32 We're always adapting to the situation. do you ever have people who can't tell when they've gone on too long yes maybe me right there Do you not see this pen still in my hand? You might be having a really important conversation. Fuck them. Like you're visual. We found out. I don't know if that's true, though. You're a wealthy man. And then you sit there and you watch your timeline.

1:28:31 that's in a different account. They want to talk to you when you're on your cell phone. corporation who's actually making a conscious decision to say, whew, America has had a little They banned him for influence and other people were saying mean things. And he critiqued it very harshly. But god damn do people get pissed off at him. You know, he was saying that it's a bad feminist film because all the men are buffoons and all the women are saving the world.

1:30:49 Like, was all the trouble? all the men are buffoons. It's sort of No, Chris is super... It's one of them. He's super handsome. I'm sure it's been done. gets killed and dies. Every woman saves the day. And this was Milo's point. and the man did something stupid that she had to fix. He was always to the moon, Alice. This poor guy, his life's falling apart.

1:34:02 So there were a lot of movies where it was You know, King of Queens is another one. It wasn't a good one. someone coming after her i understand but in the position that she's at like she's a huge celebrity the gamer gate which gave birth to the alt-right like gamer gate allowed people to realize like the backlash of that is what gave birth to Gamergate.

1:36:57 Trump did better in most ethnic groups. Yes, he did. Just across the board. They didn't trust Well, we know that his dad was actually born in Mexico. So they moved to Mexico. Born in Mexico. How did you not know that? The seer stone. I mean, he wasn't like the only one doing this. I'm friends with quite a few Mormons. don't have coffee or something,

1:40:01 the deeper stuff. Monsters, those fucking giant ones, he pounds those things. So you just fucking pop pills and freak out all day. Well, like I said, I've never talked to one who actually believes the stuff that's really out there. You get a whole planet. I'm going to get you in tight with the Mormons and you're going to get a planet because I It's hilarious.

1:42:07 Because the planet thing sounds pretty appealing. I mean, that's what you're actually experiencing. we are going to be able to create an artificial reality that is indistinguishable from regular reality. So this is actually what the scientists say. We don't know if there were hundreds of simulations before us. If you look into physics, we know, and when I say we, I mean people much smarter who are physicists,

1:45:19 Right. Have you ever talked to a physicist about that? no idea the way it's been explained to me by a friend of mine who's actually a There's no real evidence that looking at something changes it and they're repeated by people who haven't looked into it, If you're going to make the argument that it's more difficult for women to get those jobs, that's a different argument.

1:48:00 Men gravitate towards riskier jobs. It's not real statistics. It's a huge problem with anything gender related. like the ability to choose whether or not they're going to be pregnant. The law's changing, So I'm not denying that it's probably more difficult in our society because of a lot of shitty men. It's more difficult to be a woman in that sort of a scenario. So I'm not denying that it's probably more difficult in our society because of a lot of shitty men. It's more difficult to be a woman, but you can't lie

1:50:29 It almost just never happens. Because the problem is that people just say, People in the world. Regular, you know, educated people. then you can move them with data, Because I think it, like we were talking about with the Hillary Clinton thing about lying about Russia. When you when you soon as you throw a non-reality into it And, you know, you can't even argue with it.

1:52:51 You think men don't discriminate against women every step of the way. And you know that whatever comes will just won't make any sense oh my god that's hilarious But it was never a thing within the hypnotist world. There was that one time where all these women were coming out and saying, respect in a leader. No trouble there. But that was tongue in cheek. It was tongue in cheek,

1:55:33 this us versus them little battle going on. Like liberal people seem a little too conservative for me. positive or negative, you might see. And it's part of the reason I don't vote. I don't join a party. How does that work? But like voting on things like legalizing marijuana, things that are really important. it was going the way I wanted it anyway.

1:58:12 I mean, the voting for freedom, wherever it is, wherever it's possible, especially freedom, else. we measure it. I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I also think that it's that too. And that seems to be a giant ethic. You're taking away people's freedom. in time, will we lose our freedom to be autonomous? Will we lose our freedom to be able to drive a car

2:01:32 But eventually you're going to see that their suggestion is better than whatever the hell you would have done on your own. I got to make my own choices. Hashtag push harder. Right? because, you know, you have to get it, like, off the road. You know, no matter how drunk I am, I never try to come out from the back and... they could probably know a lot about me. Yeah, they definitely could. Well, that's the big

2:04:11 that? The idea of collecting names, I think of only the people who are non-citizens coming into probably a few people in the government In other words, they have to push the button to run the program. There's hundreds of millions of people. everybody's equal. They left a woman guarding the door of the White House by herself. This is a true story. out about the guy. Well, the guy turns it turns out, was arrested just a couple of months before this with 800 fucking rounds of ammunition.

2:07:18 that the law enforcement people didn't coordinate, right? 1812 was the last time it happened before that. Because we've never done it before. What in the fuck are they doing? So the explanation was the woman who I guess was the hostess says, oh, yeah, it does mean those other things. It never comes up. It's not a party until somebody bleeds. And I thought, where have we come to the point where Mike Zernovich makes the Washington Post

2:10:51 This is totally unrelated, but did you see the real sports from this week with the Bikram yoga guy? And apparently, like, he's allegedly banged a bunch of chicks that work there Yeah. I would say, well, the women who come here for yoga, they're very flexible. Well, I mean, it's the ultimate telecommuting job. I'm not shocked. whoa, there's some crazy people

2:13:46 again. Oh, I don't think that's true. No, it's because the only reason you thought anybody was Two term Trump. Look, if you guys start chanting that shit, I want credit. OK, I came up with it. Right. I want someone who was perfect in the 90s and has now transcended humanity I think we have a completely unrealistic expectation as far as someone who would put it.

2:16:10 But then you've got Jennifer Flowers and Apollo Jones and this and that and all these different – They can put out several ads, see who clicks on what, And it was really like to this day, it's one of those ones that conspiracy theorists love to bring out and go, this is why they killed him, bro. It's an amazing speech. You know, he called it this thing.

2:18:55 Sort of, but aren't they on different sides? There's just this big clusterfuck going over there. Is that even possible? Yeah. If they ever did that, good Lord. If they think it's bad now, the divisiveness and the angst and this fucking Yeah, would the protesters be out there if it wasn't on television? Where do you hear it, though? It seems like a good gig if you're broke.

2:22:09 Well, they wouldn't. What is this here? They'll post everything and believe anything Horner said, referring to then Trump campaign manager Corey Lindowski. That would have been really embarrassing. He's part of the Trump universe. I don't know if he's technically on the transition team. the vice president will adopt the president's policies, at least in public. By the time Mike

2:24:52 I just really have a hard time seeing him as being a guy that's going to run for president someday. And he only had one thing he needed to do, which was win a debate against the other vice president, Tim Kaine, which he did. He's like, fuck that. Yeah, first of all, because someone on the other side who gets the Scott Adams dick pic, lose it because then they're just victims. Everybody could be bad.

2:26:39 I mean, we all know our best friend stuff, you know, in this complete and total assimilation. I think losing privacy, I agree with you 100%. I think like there's going to be another leap that's even more spectacular than that. If I told you, it would ruin your book reading experience. Somebody tell me what the law is. looking at it. the people watching.

2:30:04 Because it's like, I see how it works. that multicolored keyboard lit up is probably the right answer, you know, and some person who's an expert, like if somebody had a question and it was on an of watching good thoughts turn into better thoughts. Like if people write poor reviews of his presidency, I always imagine him with his socks on. But what he does is he praises and rewards people who are good.

2:33:15 But he likes to finish him. we did a podcast while the presidency was being called know bill made fun of it and it was just it was perfect it was the perfect thing to see while it Well, this is a different thing, though, once you're the president versus once you're just some billionaire, you know, real estate tycoon. How did that connect with the, I'm missing the string there.

2:35:44 It came to throat Punishing people so that you feel there's a... It's Game of Thrones type shit. Game of Thrones. around and he didn't come up with that low energy jeb thing is that what he called him yeah low But if it wasn't for that happening with Jeb Bush, he might have very well gotten to the same position that Donald got into. That's the question, man. That's the big question.

2:37:25 As McGregor said in the fight, she has lots of attributes. Much less. The one with, see if you can find it. Look at this. These are fucking great. Who knows what else that guy knew, if that was the guy, Can't we just drone him? Can't we just drone them? Very irrational to think that way and very impulsive to say that out loud because you're dealing with the dissolving of a nation.

2:41:27 people who just got a shit roll of the dice and grew up in Libya. it. I'll tell you that that video was fucking terrifying. The video of the rebels capturing Permanently. The average person doesn't think that's a thing, but I've seen it. Became reckless and wild, and it came out of a head injury. Like literally from brain trauma. I mean, it may be possible.

2:43:50 Laughed about killing Gaddafi. So if that's the... I'll look into it more. Definitely can't. who admits yes It wasn't supposed to be taped, but it was like an off-air kind of recording. It was off camera. We solved a lot of things today. I think we cleared up a lot of people's misconceptions about you, I see where this game is going to go. not just persuasion, but just to not look rattled. Even if you're not persuaded,

2:47:47 I'm just picking that up. I found this weird pattern Gave them the vibe. a dick and like really i just had a wonderful pleasant conversation with him you know because what the fuck the answer is. And I think that that's often the case. It's like the actual And this conversation is a joint effort. He's a fucking piece of shit. more often than, you know, you imagine. Well, I also got to think that being the president,

2:51:23 Part of why he puts his name on the buildings. He has a great love for himself, which is part of his success, part of why he puts his name on the buildings. because you probably have your critics as well. You know none of these things are true. I mean, if civilization breaks down, that's another story. But you're talking about a guy that if someone tweets something negative about it, he's got to tweet back.

2:52:33 to the impact of criticism against him. But don't miss the pattern. my point. Yeah. If any, if the, if the parade had been led by, you know, a reporter from the we've had someone who has no political want to get rid of anyway, that for a long time you could get rid of two for one. Yeah. There Okay. We're not talking about mental illness. I'm going to defend Donald Trump's climate change position, which disagrees with all of science.

2:55:47 I'm going to speculate a little bit here, so I don't want to put too many words into the no, Donald Trump, look at our numbers. This could not be more clear. It's independent people. a complicated model on that scale and got it right? All right. So there's nobody who's doing Some seaweed died. But you don't think they've accounted for that when they're talking about the models of the Earth being warmer every year for the past decade?

2:58:10 is that there was a whole bunch of judgment You think that's the case with science though and with climate change? That doesn't make any looking at the same data i see what you're saying kind of but i really don't see the connection When you're talking about the temperature of the earth, you're absolutely measuring. that somebody doesn't think is a judgment call.

3:00:53 carbon footprint, and that we really need to slow down the amount of pollutants and the particulates What's the word? So Trump's thing is clean the water, clean the air. No. It was a terrible, terrible idea. Because I knew, and this is what happened, the cost of solar cells dropped so quickly these stupid rich have to go first. They're not good for proving a point.

3:03:32 But chances are, chances are, and again, you might not want to take this risk. right, fucking $500 billion we're going to spend now because we got the solution. Okay. That's one of the plans. It totally makes sense that if we can clean air in your house, Yeah. So that's a risk everybody has got to assess. saying, let's clean the air, clean the water.

3:07:05 you need to do with climate change. I think there's already, at least in the lab, they've made it useful. Yeah. I've done other podcasts, but- requested thing of my year. Wow. Holy shit. You specifically. Wow. Well, it was worth it for me. I really appreciate it, man. And look at my app, WenHub. can just see that you're meeting Keep people responsible.

3:09:49 See you then.