Joe Rogan Experience #880 — Jon Jones Transcript

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0:00 Got a publicist with you, huh? You had all this time. caramel fake candy bar type yeah five grams of sugar definitely I'd love to try it. like why is this bothering me i was having an internal dialogue i'm like honey you're eating Oh, great. I have four. Yep, I want a son so bad. Yeah, I want a son. Have you Googled it? I feel like I think I heard Kanye did that to get a boy the second time.

2:49 well, I wouldn't say I'm spiritual, but I don't believe in, I don't, And I felt like I felt like God was waiting for me to get married before giving me and my fiancé this boy. That's 18 more years of raising another girl, you know, a thousand kids. Yes. or whatever the fuck they're doing, almost all of them sort of pick and choose Right, not to mess with the temple.

5:33 this opportunity when you were more mature when you're mature enough to raise a man do you do And I feel as if when I'm over those, I'll feel ready to be able to raise a man and teach a man how to be a proper man. Well, you were telling me before the show that you don't do Instagram anymore. And there was a lot of, you know, I got to do like a one hour phoner with a bunch of different uh media guys and then there's a a few reporters that's going

7:48 You've been on a crazy ride, not just through July, but for the last couple of years. and I love you as a person. Yeah. It was a messed up situation, finishing legends after legend after legend. Yeah, just being hammered and just being a total party boy. And then people said that I came back and grabbed a load of money, which is the stupidest thing ever.

10:31 I was definitely disoriented. and I realized, like, seconds later, But my bowl that had residue was in the car. so i looked for like two seconds couldn't find the bull and i just took off running work. And he's like, John, feel free to stay here. And, you know, you can make yourself breakfast or Yeah, sorry, yeah. So it all happened so fast yeah sorry yeah so it all

13:23 I didn't know if I hit a truck. But it doesn't make what I did okay, Yeah. You know, I would imagine that that would be 1,000% put on me. What were you thinking? I felt like a monster. dude even in the public's eyes like you just heard a pregnant woman like doesn't really get worse a lot of people tell me i need to get my shit together and what was it about like what besides

17:06 He's like, hey, man, like I'm waiting to see you fight again. But at the same time, you know how many motherfuckers there are in the world. Who knows what weird shit this guy's in? That conflict that you're starting up in your own brain right now, it's a rationalization conflict. It doesn't make any sense. And it's a defensive road. That's a trap. And I seriously have been working on my personal life. much for you know rooting for me still and i really appreciate it and i'm working at it and and i i

20:08 Jonathan Jones and having my, my group of friends, um, across the country who Jenna, like, uh, Being on top of stuff. things I wanted to get fixed And then also being in a position where I don't really good right now. That's all beautiful. There's also responsibility that comes with potential. I trained for the fight. Yeah. the week before the fight. So, so it was a built in safety net. It was a safety net. Yeah, exactly.

23:49 He's very strong. and you hadn't fought in a long time. I had a lot of stuff going, yeah. Skill wise. Literally everything. I know everything about every opponent. What side they're going to shoot, And I had a lot on the line. go back to my actual goal, which was DC, of the octagon right right i agree i agree i had a lot of pressure and i feel like i responded great

27:06 He thought that you were doing too much of that? Now, why did you do that as far as, like, cardio and things like that? not weightlifting and doing all cardio. No, no, they weren't. They work with a Philadelphia Eagle and a lot of powerlifters, yeah. And like I said, these guys are humble enough to do what I need them to do, because of all this power lifting?

30:32 But as far as going into the fight with Ovin St. Preux, It wasn't as sharp as normal. and that was because I was feeling lactic acid in my arms. That has to be connected to just developing so much power in my hips and in my legs. Were you thinking, hey, you know, one day I'm going to fight heavyweight. How so? Watching these guys competing for your belt?

33:39 I walked down there stoned, right? you know, with these really skinny legs. Well, powerlifting gyms are very competitive and guys get super hung up on the idea of like Heavier numbers, you know? No, I have pretty good trainers, and they teach me the right way to do things. weight well that's the big theory behind functional strength, right? Are you back to Jacksons? A bunch of powerlifting and a bunch of wrestling and jiu-jitsu.

37:12 Working on my versatility and just my abilities on my feet. So you're not throwing any punches these days, not throwing any kicks? I think Kim Shamrock is right behind me with maybe five, and I have six. Tito days, but that was Ken, you know, later on in his career. How many submissions did Frank have? When you're suspended, because this is a question that I've always wanted to know,

39:08 Right. Yeah, that's one of the best parts about MMA and martial arts in general, I've been really selfish my entire career, car accident? Or like yesterday? No, after the car accident. When I decided that I was going to And next thing you know, people who don't even know each other, gonna have a way better time your chances of getting laid is going up because you're hanging

41:58 I just have the best times. I just stayed away from the scene until I felt like I was strong enough to just not do it. Can you do that? I'll drink Red Bull whenever I'm in a situation where a lot of people are drinking. But, I mean, it's way better than just getting turned up. Yeah. drinking or is it uh what's more difficult it was um it was i think stopping pot was really tough

44:05 Right. So I had to kind of start hanging out with people who didn't smoke, Yeah. I had to find people who were just straight, And I do mountain biking and jiu-jitsu. No, different ways of thinking that I— But I do write things down, yeah. or to I would always get to the point where everyone's getting crazy and I never went through a period of time or feeling like, oh, you know,

48:43 When you say you believe you could, you know, it's interesting. Just a little bit. What's a beer? Like when you got off the alcohol, did you have withdrawals? I wasn't waking up and I didn't need alcohol. and then you just said, all right, I'm done with that. My boys are like, yo, you remember the time you did this and we were at that? there's some functional smokers who can wake up and they have eight things they're gonna do that

51:51 It hits everybody differently. But do you think that you, was it all day, every day because you were looking for an escape? Or was it all day, every day because it had formed a habit and that's what you were used to doing? to you about doing this. And Hey John, and there's just so much coming your way. Do you feel like it's almost like you had set yourself up in a position

53:09 by being a 20-whatever-year-old millionaire Take your hands away from me so I can hear you. especially the bar thing I felt as if I was amongst, And back when I used to party, I used to feel like that was me just not being John Bones Jones Right. don't go just being amongst the people. the person and happy with What are you going to use as that escape valve then?

56:36 And I just feel above. Well, I'm sure you don't. You're you. You feel the repercussions of millions of, first of all, millions of people that loved And I was like, you're crazy. A little bit. A little bit a little bit no more robbery or assault or any of the shit that got him into the position And when he came out of that jail, one of the first things that one of the corrections officers

59:41 And ultimately, Bernard Hopkins escaped his demons All these terrible things could have gone wrong that you kind of got away with. yeah that's you that's at your Really, your prime is like 32. The reason why I put that up is because I know that right now I'm in a position to do some magnificent and extraordinary things. from here and now are going to be that much the great things that i do from here and out are

1:03:06 Yeah, I just feel like I don't need it. There's nothing else that I really need out of this uh out of this thing i've literally been there and done that already because I know my future is just so incredibly bright, rape charges and murder and attempted murder and you know all this type of crazy shit you know I've seen some athletes come back from way worse stuff, rape charges and murder and attempted murder

1:05:01 Does it bother you when people think you are? You know, they look at you as this guy who's had so much success, so many things handed to him that maybe he thinks he's better than everybody else. But they don't think about it that way. I know that. But they don't think about it that way. When they see the worst case scenario, I mean, the way it was played out,

1:06:07 I deal with adversity very well, man. Let's talk about that. people associate with people who take steroids right people take steroids It wasn't actual Cialis, but it was described to me as being a Cialis. You were partying? Like one of those gas station rhino pills? But you said you don't do drugs or anything like that, but you had done drugs. It's like.

1:09:12 Look, this happens. before that and you just throw the creatine in it and some of it gets contaminated. The guys like you ever do like Cialis viagras and all that stuff and i'm like yeah i've you know i've Super nice, hospitable, come in. What did that feel like? Calm myself down and I instantly started thinking about the weight of the, I had the weight

1:11:59 getting my health my mind you know just being in order to beat DC. did you think, man, I don't know what's in this? I thought that you failed drug tests when you're doing sketchy shit. No, that's funny. I would never do anything to And then I was suspended when USADA came. No, when USADA came into the sport, I was suspended because of my hit and run.

1:14:51 So the only difference was I had taken little gas station pills, and I've taken Viagra before. performance enhancing properties to it how does it's banned from the olympics yeah but um but yeah you know i understand that wasn't your intention take fish oil basic basic supplements protein powder, fish oil, liver cleanser or whatever. We went to the Gat Nutrition website the moment we found out about it.

1:17:35 natural athlete but um but uh so they got they got all theAT stuff tested and clear, right? Everything was clear. i need those so we got those pills tested and sure enough they uh and their ingredients they listed no way in hell. And, So it's just tainted. Yes, because each pill that we had tested, some of them had more estrogen blockers. estrogen blockers like damn why did I get that one?

1:20:03 And the label would have never said that it was estrogen blocker in there So now I fight in July of 2017. Especially in such a trace amount. Yeah. Like, you didn't, you should have reported this pill. to ever take them into arbitration, So unless you guys were going to spend all the money And wasn't supposed to be in that pill. You know, there's weird ones like Yoel Romero.

1:23:06 I'm so optimistic, man. I'm upset about the fans that I let down who flew out to UFC 200 and things like that. They didn't like the fact that I was handed a sex pill, USADA, or hand anything into whey protein powder, well, hey, and cialis and us we're actually allowed to but because mine's was tainted and i didn't ask So I'm excited to see where I'll be in July when it's time for me to actually compete again.

1:25:49 UFC 200? Yeah, there's a big UFC July 4 card that we put on every year, Yeah. Yeah. Or no, I have no clue what they're actually planning on doing. I've had a few interactions with Ari before. Yeah, it's interesting, right? Like, here's some things that I think about. damage to people. Take the eggs on the line. i just think is the most it's the most unnecessary and dangerous aspect in fighting.

1:30:17 rehydrating, but I've talked to doctors and I guess they vary in their opinions because some and we're going to have to end this thing. What do you weigh right now? Yeah, I've been doing it for so long now. It scares me the most because there's not a lot of options 20 pounds is a big jump. But aren't you lucky, though, that you're in the neighborhood of 205?

1:33:10 when it comes to us big boys. I love 205. Just 15 pounds is a giant leap, 20 pounds from 85 to 205. These guys are very skilled. I'll fight right around 230. I've manhandled a lot of heavyweights. I feel like I've been majorly preserving myself. And so I just feel like you got the best fighter in light heavyweight history He does, like, some tactical sparring where, you know, it's just tap, touch, just move around.

1:36:38 There's a few guys that come to mind right now at Jackson's who get punched in the head. could have saved for an actual event so right now um Yeah, yeah. going to be training with a bunch of animals there but i'm hearing now with the opening of who I don't think are always qualified to be in the gym. can't you can't be a guy off the street who don't know who doesn't know shit but outside of that

1:39:19 It's an experience of a lifetime for a lot of people. is someone who wants to come and play with LeBron James, you want to make a name for yourself. people's character whatever 220 of a chip on your shoulder then I'm just not going to mess with you. introduce yourself, be kind, be polite, be respectful, mind should be at yeah earn this facebook page right yo look at look what i trained with today

1:42:05 you know we can kind of beat them up a little bit you know because they're the new guy or whatever And he's like, yeah, I'm all right. And that was his last time ever training with me as well Now I'm more big into visualization. When did you used to meditate? Um, right around 2000, Doesn't bother me. It's like there's nothing to it. And a lot of it came from mental practice and meditation and visualization and just seeking knowledge from people who are

1:45:45 to to separate yourself from it and get a balanced and as much as you can objective perspective You got this going on, that going on. and I can see Jon Bones Jones detaching something inside of me and and and seeing what's happening and okay oh no it's not over all I get what you're saying. Right. Oh, 205, yeah. What is this? What made you decide to do this?

1:48:57 Like, I did one jiu-jitsu match my whole career, And he's like, oh, we're selling geese over here and rash guards. And I was just like, and a lot of people heard him. And it's like, you know what? And I think some of these people And then I ended up tapping these two guys out fairly quick. Okay. See if you can see that in there, Jamie. And what he does is he has guys, they fight for or they grapple for a determined time period.

1:51:40 You know, the arm hooked. and then he has an opportunity to try to submit you, and the person who has the least amount of time I wonder how much he weighs right now. That's quite the way to end your career. Yeah, so I don't how hard he's training but i've i'm putting a little effort into it for sure yeah well you tell me before you're just getting really

1:53:32 That's huge. technical and that's great i feel like i'm getting pretty good right now that's awesome man if you I'm joking, bro. It's good to see you happy. All right, brother. That was good. Uh-huh.