Joe Rogan Experience #8884 — Duncan Trussell Transcript
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0:00 This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast was one of the episodes that we made while we were filming the sci-fi show Joe Rogan Questions Everything. We did it exactly like a regular podcast, just me and Duncan. and do things without actually having to go to an attorney and sit down What kind of stuff can you do? they actually can connect you with an independent attorney
3:26 You know what's really crazy? Yeah. That's what my mom did my dad was like a really violent cop and she married a hippie like when she broke up I was getting a ride. I want to ask you this. probability of getting a ride back from college with a guy who was a mobile the probability of of your friend's dad getting arrested jesus. He got arrested in the parking lot.
6:28 You're still duking it out? Like, it was like, think of Hemingway. Once people had a few mistakes His name is Get real close to that. We're just guys who, and people that couldn't live any longer and had to augment themselves and cyborgs. I felt that way. And she did it. integrating and incorporating technology into your body. First document. These are really tiny magnets.
11:09 I was drunk. in a nerve dense area of your hand, when you're around an electromagnetic field, see a color no one ever seen before. I jumped at this chance to incorporate that It's an electromagnetic field. Absolutely. I don't even know what to say. You mean it felt like fizz? Every person that has the implant uses completely different language to describe it.
14:17 Well, is that blue? I saw a speech by Quinn Norton where she said, hey, don't do this. importantly, these magnets are made out of rare earth elements. Mine's like a cobalt alloy. Those If it's not covered. Eyes rolled back. have a vagina so i wouldn't know how could you know what would happen when a woman's in the maybe on top of an old truck. That's a need for, you know,
17:49 Oh, so they're saying, hey, man, I've been thinking about putting magnets in my cock. There's a lot of shit to talk about in the world. But people already do that with body modification. saying bigfoot's only one thing there's a lot of bigfoot you're saying more than one guy's Is this like when they told me, like, we're going to have a punch yourself in the face contest and I had to start first?
19:50 You're still ahead of the majority of your species, but there's a risk to this. don't put anything else in your body because any implant can turn can go bad yeah i got my nose You should never get your nose pierced. Now, like, I'll go to Home Depot, Some guy over there was pantsed out by the lawnmowers. And it made me want to pull away and run away from it.
22:46 being dangerous because it can it can move around since this is subdermal it's not anchored in any sweatshirts to. You're supposed to get down to a robe. i just had one a couple of days ago you take your clothes Right. That's just not what they do. Yeah. Now, you have this, which you've already done, So you can think of it as because it interacts with electricity and magnetism, it's kind of like a really low-level input.
26:54 is the ability to take the mind and download its consciousness somewhere into an artificial creation. But he wanted to build something that he believed that we have the ability to do this stuff ourselves. So basically what it does is it's a rose compass What? Wait a minute. So it's got like a wireless coil on it. of being able to find your way home or is there any we we have uh parts of it parts of it built
30:09 And this is just going to take data. I understand the idea of a compass i or another part of your body Well, it's a rose compass, right? wherever the north is it gives a signal pointing where the arrow goes yeah so the arrow it not right and so it's not like they're like oh shit that that might kill me let me pull back it's more and coughing. Especially if you're dirty
33:53 there are human beings at this very moment and i picture you in a basement in in basements with You're both kind of right. Well, I got my implant done. It was something else. That's not going to stop anybody. she did this talk called Cybernetics for the Masses, where she advocating, you know, implants. Yeah. You can't really tell. It could be true.
37:30 You're right. There are risks. And there's a... It's not a bad thing. wrong with it man it's not wrong being a dork don't be scared of being a dork okay well fine No, it's an awesome term, and that's what we were when we were out there looking for Bigfoot. You're not taking yourself that seriously. Right. Fiberglass, copper, metal, plastics. You take a CNC, you make a CNC mold reverse.
40:52 that we think someone what what i want to know though is like what part of the body would you install this thing This is our jetpack. what's the most incredible like the most extreme implant that you're aware of It's stimulating these magnets, makes a magnet vibrate. phone to hear his phone through his invisible earphones. themselves instead of having to go to one source, you know, like company X to get their
44:38 we share all of the I try to avoid I thought a cyborg, it means that it's part of you now. But you know what else is crazy and dangerous pigs for the sake of our species it's well i think they did it because they're enjoying it well it's I don't want to live in that. Which is true, but if you look at waves of technology and the evolution of technology, the people that get it first get to dictate how the technology is used and they get to dictate the political landscape.
47:49 No, they're saying that when a cell phone is invented, Okay, but that's not even what they were talking about. Really, really good at it. It's a handheld computer. It's about the size of a credit card. No, you need a screen, keyboard, whatever interfaces. cell phone parts that they're using It seems like if it's effective for rich people, it will eventually trickle down to the always getting first access, they can always determine how it's used.
51:08 No, no, no. And I think that's the most ethical way So you're essentially – what you're saying is that these new technologies are going to be so powerful that once people get control of them, they'll literally be able to enslave these technological human improvements, of people trying to hold on to that for whatever. Because, for example, everyone, every army today
53:20 ethnic tension and whatever. well, how do you decide to distribute technology then? How does it handle? I want people to have options. It's debatable. or you can go to the open source community B. You can't monopolize. What you're talking about is achieving the ability with technology either or what I'm saying is cell phones Who the fuck knows what they're doing?
57:36 And so what do you do? And they can't fix that yet. They really So you've got a real problem besides the innovation. And instead, what we usually have is he who gets to the top of the mountain, because of it. But along the way, it's also made a bunch of fucking assholes. A bunch I don't think money's going to be real anymore. It's going to get to a point where the idea,
1:00:35 decide who gets the food but you're it's not going to be real anymore it's gonna it's gonna merge is that we've needed to succeed Just because we innovated and we pushed forth and we got the fuck away from all the things that are dangerous. You get up in the morning early When you are now growing food, you now have a wide space in your day where you're not doing anything.
1:02:34 transhumanism, I think, is to shrink down the moment between what you can think you want and download into someone's mind how to play piano if we remove that discipline then what joe's saying So I think that when you augment, when you make yourself more intelligent, more capable, You don't get it. They're looking for meaning. Let me put it in non-layman's Burning Man terms.
1:05:24 to try to quench this endless human appetite. You never get satisfied. That's how we design fast food already. Well, I'm not even sure that it's a negative. years ago and it's what we will be 50 000 years from now it's probably unrecognizable to us yeah You could send messages, including video, from people to people all around the world. It's amazing. You can send messages, including video, to people all around the world.
1:07:56 it's a massive burst of innovation. That's where it gets weird. getting cancer at 60, Well, we've got something queued up with Tim when our buddy, our CTO, got his magnets installed. Ah, shit. Hold on. Just play that. He's like, hey, I can do that for you. especially on his face test surgeons with tattoos on their face boy avoid It's about two millimeters wide.
1:10:51 It's free. It'd be a bargain price anywhere between $75 and $150, just like most subdermal body mods. about it it's called the the morphic field and morphic residents and he wrote a book about uh chimpanzees, they've demonstrated. It's very strange. space i think the evolution sort of grows through us do you know what i mean like it's our it's it's
1:14:05 But if you really stop and think about when human beings used to be essentially very similar It's just the time frame for us is so bizarre to wrap our heads around Well, that's what I feel like Lucas is getting at by creating an actual – a pathway between two minds or between many minds that we can control using principles we already understand. That seems inevitable.
1:16:24 I think the benefit of Well, first of all, we've learned about the NSA and spying. That's really where it comes down to. can you imagine that's like an ethan hawke movie there'd be no snowden yeah snowden's brain would It's a whole bunch of different technologies that are happening all at once. Really awesome guys. that we can handle Space colonization? That's where we're going?
1:20:17 I mean, the temperature is instantly death if you step outside unless you have a pressured suit. I don't know enough about the technology to say anything definite. sending you pictures of their Lucas really weird. Unless they all These two sleep or these two are out and you're doing two different things at the same time You know, imagine if you're doing that artificially.
1:23:03 What about him? Did you pay attention to the Global Future 2045 conference? But I like the fact that they have a goal that they're working towards. not have to move forward with that sort of contention and fighting and just i don't i that. And I think the idea of people being moral is more accepted as not just something that has I think it's going to lead to a freedom of the species itself.
1:26:46 but that worst-case scenario is far better today than it's ever been in history. No, that's your thing. Look at what happened with those freaks. away on foot this guy in Detroit the trend the overall trend better is way better than it's ever existed and i i agree with you printers and let's imagine 3d printers in 200 years where now you can like molecularly assemble
1:30:27 Yeah, that's what I hope. that were created by assholes. Right. the future and that might be important. It was really pretty fascinating stuff. They've already figured out how to do that. Yeah, there's... you're a mormon you believe a 14 year old named joseph smith in 1820 found golden tablets that grinders or transhumanism or whatever, Whether it's some new invention of something that has absolutely no rejection in the human body
1:34:41 Okay? Again, even Star Trek. And you guys are right on the crest of the wave, they just had to saw your shit off We'd all do it I like what you look like Zip lock bags i could have extra or maybe something something now you're greedy see greedy motherfucker trying Shiva's a futuristic robot. Hold on. You would do it in a second. Girl grabs your butt, you feel nothing.
1:38:01 The bottom of your balls are numb. fake tits i'm trying to find a non-sexist way of approaching this as far as male enhancement out. Stop right there. Have you ever seen a chick that's had they fix fix the um undersack and you know come up with some new technology that even though the Yeah, that feel. these these aren't modular you can't switch them they don't rotate yeah why why would you why
1:40:54 rots and this dream while all of us are Actually, it has yeah dummy, you know, we were listening to these some of these religious people talking at that conference Before it used to be, oh, wow, that flower is beautiful. Like we were talking earlier today about this discovery. Yeah. what's over that mountain let's go i know it's dangerous but hey there's nothing else to do let's
1:44:22 Ray Mallett, I forget his name, like where you're like i can't imagine that i'm living in a world where i won't get to fly in a you don't know you could be the dude who used to have a nose ring for like three days and i didn't like to meet dimitri itzkoff the man who founded the global future 2045 conference and if so what Because I'm very interested in what his utopia is.
1:47:07 And I would ask them for the resources that we don't have. And so we don't get answers to questions that we need. And even though I play devil's advocate about it, I really think that ultimately that would be the best way.