Joe Rogan Experience #907 — Mike Baker Transcript

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0:00 Do-do-do-do-do! I know, I know. We're supposed to have that removed when we join. That's how people start off a podcast. And we're getting a lot of snow. That'd be a hell of a sport. and they can stuff in your pack when you're done, And, you know, the snow was falling. And then I do what everybody does. That's the picture you took? My friend Ryan Callahan. Shout out to

2:43 kind of like a high-end... And so we get a lot of wealthy folks. I mean, there's nothing fancy about it. is because they're trying to keep people out I know You could see the logs that are down there, the sticks. It's a great place. because there's a bill that got introduced fella. He doesn't fucking know what he's doing. camp. You could just go lie down and stare at the

5:21 give a kick How could you kill that thing? The Twitter page, Rocky Mountain Elk Federation, RMEF, Bass Pro, wherever you got in your local area, and, you know, that turns out to be millions and millions of dollars That's an incredibly large part of the economy, folks. That's just for Minnesota, right? Enough to support the average salaries of nearly 11,000 police and sheriff's officers.

7:45 It's kind of crazy, Columbus Day, when you find out what a savage he was. I'm expecting the other kind of coffee, and it comes Maybe I'm just a bitch. How much do you drink dehydrated, if you're drinking plenty of water that sponsors us, my friend's company, Holy shit. They're so good. Take that with you. There's a whole story behind the company, but it's this one farm in Columbia, single source, single family.

10:06 I've pared it down. Actually, all three of them, though. That's what... five that's a good age to start taekwondo because then you'll learn the dexterity and the flexibility It's like everything else. much that you do to shape their personality. But she'll say, can I tell you something? You just can't be farting. Much more of a girly girl. all their time beating the shit out of each other.

12:42 Well, that's one of the good things about jiu-jitsu. That's reality. My kids are allowed to kick So my daughter will throw As you get eight and ten, Girls, you can say, you're going to have to tell me. I'd just gotten off the plane. And it was so hard that I literally, because you know what happens. That's what happens. So. research are you a doctor wow wow yeah i know that whole and he's and he's kind of appointed

15:35 It was because of his tweets, right? This is a fascinating period of time in history, back to like 1941. Go back to when the Russians were still in an alliance and a pact with the Nazis. And so from the Russian perspective, their goal, their point was to keep the U.S. out of the war. And so what did they do? There's an isolationist wing in the States. And Roosevelt was under a lot of pressure. Roosevelt was becoming very close to Churchill.

16:51 Russians was that they were still in this pact, you know, with the Nazis. Stalin didn't see this the Soviets. They were influencing unions, dumping money into unions and bribing, basically, to get Right. have been very adept over the years at creating mayhem, creating chaos around democratic institutions. It didn't make any sense. I was really happy to see that he did that.

20:10 You could just go out there, thank the people, say you're looking forward to working with them to protect national security interests, shake some hands and leave. We can't just rely on signals and intercepts and, you know, technology. So that happens over a from Mike Flynn, who's now the national security guy, Now you do everything possible. get you know a couple hundred tweets you know saying you know you're a fucking

23:08 I wouldn't do that with any president. Again, here's the problem. had enough of sort of that bend in the wind and do whatever And it's not a community of nations that gathers together Well, it definitely doesn't seem there's any benevolent superpower Who are they? But know this. Obviously, we make mistakes. Most of my, you know, childhood and adult life overseas.

27:09 New Zealand, Australia. This is the most recent country. world and and liberties and freedoms and things to do i mean great you know like the protests on and you see how bad it is and how bad it can be. Right. Was that what it was? So the FBI is law enforcement. So let's just get, you know, the preponderance of intel. opinion over the motivation. And motivation is the toughest thing, one of the toughest things to

31:13 bit up in the air. But the bottom line is the Russians, yeah, the Russians were engaged in So you've got a couple of colonels in the FSB, which was the old KGB, who fucking hole for a while? Yeah, he just said the wrong arguments, you know, then you'll, everybody kept saying. And that's what all these Democrats, was what they sent. I mean it wasn't, they didn't hack anything. They didn't get into

33:26 Bernie would have been a better candidate. And he goes, I'll happily release mine because I don't have any because I wouldn't take a penny from those people. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she was a real piece of work. Because we wouldn't know how fucking corrupt she was. You know, you don't want somebody walking out of that organization with a chip on their shoulder and talking.

35:14 And that's what they're doing. Someone had to sit and say, you know, I got an idea for an operation. The Chinese do the same thing. And you better hope we do it, in a sense. I always say the same. People say, when I talk about cyber hacking or whatever, All they have to do is watch Showtime series Homeland. japan at a tournament i think they fought three days in a row jeez japan takes to the next level

37:57 Put that thing on vibrate, fella. Well, I mean, look at all the shows that have come out of there, to be fair. But they were probed and tested and attacked. We can do deals together. as usual and i know i'm not going to get any pushback for the shit that i do because she is Yeah, you're right. They're just trying to create instability, chaos, and some sort of sense of mistrust of a democratic institution.

41:37 They're like, are you still bringing that up again? I mean, holy shit. There was that. What was that? Stop now. It didn't actually happen. That wouldn't happen. It's a weird show. Yeah, that's not, I think it was Taft. Yeah. Well, that's your job, hooker. Put that on her Facebook and said that she would not take a bullet for President Trump. Okay, Oh Grady removed the post days later,

44:38 But O'Grady has also made numerous other posts She removed it. Geez, I didn't realize that. Once you retire, you can say whatever the fuck you want without violating any sort of laws, any sort of agreements that you've signed. She probably had her period. People I mean, that's how much people didn't want Hillary Clinton to be in office. Could have been either one, frankly.

46:50 The look was pure Bill Clinton. Oh, yeah. He gives her a quick look. Hi, everyone. I'm Ivanka Trump. I want to remind you. I wish you live with a wolf. Look at that outfit. You know you live with a big old gray wolf. Hi, everyone. They always do that. That would be the only reason would have been Yeah, I love his mouth. Look at her. This is amazing.

48:31 Presidential chubby. Here we go. That's 100% Oh man What an animal. president. Usually you don't. the benefit of the press hiding his Who knows what he could have done if he didn't have back pain. They had pills. Mama's a little helper. and in that case when you look at it that way at least from the point of view of representing a stately sort of like

51:28 But, you know, you got to be able to say there was good and there's bad, you know. arresting these ranchers for protesting against it trying to keep these guys from drilling into their fucking private land that was all during the Obama would take the blame. Bitch, I just let you out of jail. I mean, I don't think he's going to want to go to a ball game.

52:40 It's Chelsea. I think she'll just do a podcast. Why not? Yeah, The View. Come on in. Him, her. Probably had some... It sounds good, but yeah. Let's wait until we're done Yeah, exactly. you know, up to snuff or feeling, You know what? I'd be happy. Suddenly he spends three years naked and in the dark. Yeah, it was underwear. It was three days. But you see how this happens now. Suddenly he spends three years naked and in the dark.

55:24 for parade in the nude. With my hands behind my back and my legs spaced shoulder width apart, I stood at parade rest for about three minutes. I'm embarrassed. if you're not beating me or torturing would go very well in a military brigade. No, I think you'd probably beat me to look at yours? I don't want to look at yours. How about that? I'm less weird than you. And all that talking would go very well in a military brigade. No.

56:40 Another question is, there was a lot of people to do that as well. No, no, no. or it's certainly, you know. were going to beat the Chinese intelligence service certain aspects of what he was talking about. But he was a high school dropout, isn't that? So in that sense, a lot of people felt like they were vindicated in their fears by this guy coming out and Edward Snowden releasing that information.

59:26 You sign. He tried several times to go and talk about this. The far right that goes after That's what I think. But the idea of, you know, some of the people went histrionics and said, you know, you should be hung. But would we have had that conversation without him? Because I don't think we would. Well, yeah, and I don't necessarily about it, because you're right. And it's very important. You have to figure out where that goes.

1:02:38 Whenever something goes on and there's any sort of a terrorist attack, No, I'm just kidding. you're going to have 4,000 that fucking hate you. We have a nice chat. They do all the work they need to do. That's the point of the story. of saying, you know what, there's nothing set in stone that says our congressmen, congresswomen Take a little bit of the influence out.

1:05:58 But I don't know where I was going with that story. And it just gets real squirrely. I think they were the ones who printed it. That had been out and circulating. I mean, it's like a hack wrote it. No. Everybody knows I'm a germaphobe. He's got a point there. the carpet. What the They run corporations. Well, when you describe it that way, I can see what the attraction is.

1:09:19 I overheard a conversation today. Mind you, both these guys were white. Where were these guys? Well, you don't have to tell me where they were. Of course it happens on the other side, too. move this is my move this is my thing intelligence agency collects data that's how it works yeah And that actually did make me then interrupt, which is rude, admittedly. But I said, look,

1:12:14 Yeah, I guess I was being over the top a little bit. what percentage of them were innocent civilians, it's pretty staggering. All I could think about is what would I do for a living? but at the 30,000-foot level, we've lost a significant amount of leverage in the Middle East. So as an example, And we haven't had it for a long time. and they start doing what? Well, they've signed weapons agreements, arms agreements with Iraq,

1:15:42 They've got one port for their Black Sea fleet. Where does America stand? Where are we? What are our commitments? Obviously, Netanyahu and President Obama, not exactly the tightest of relationships. tight, you know, so that there's no visible daylight between us and our key allies that Afghanistan, Yemen. Absolutely. When you remove leaders, as brutal as they are, you create a vacuum.

1:19:56 And they somehow convinced the previous administration to get involved and that it was a good idea. It's guaranteed. Well, good luck with that. we've got short attention span, so we just want everything to happen They don't have a fucking clue. military intelligence, and had been a tank driver. And he had been out in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation. Was still carrying some shrapnel around for that. And when we went into

1:22:37 that maybe if you sell shoulder-fired weapon systems to, you know, me that have nothing to do with it, you look on the outside and you go, how does this ever get So I'm not saying, you know, you know, there's that old saying, you can't kill your way out of it. No worries. Hey, well, anyway. Because at the end of the day, if you just want to talk about somebody popping off and doing something horrible here in our country, again, the concept of the lone wolf attack, whatever you want to call it,

1:25:20 Nothing's going to happen from this. She risked her life to come to the United States and they still call her an Islamophobe for anyone that said I mean they're blinded. They're blinded by their beliefs I think we just came up with that. Peace on Earth. And then you think about, you know, our relations, our efforts with them, and that's on a whole different level.

1:27:59 ultimately, I think we're the only nation sometimes it seems that apologizes when we act in our own At what point do you decide to be the police person? I did. of financial institutions and others from outside of China. oh, I'm rising up. So if they have significant problems, there could be issues. ahead thing? I mean, They don't launch anything as soon as they launch everything. We're all fucked

1:31:55 You look at a country like, I hate to say this, you look at a country like Pakistan. He's like, Yeah. It's, it's, it's a, although was just saying it's an insanely dangerous, murderous place. Yeah. Yeah. But it's, yeah. their ballistic systems. Man, Persians, yeah. Yeah, you know there was a like Bill Clinton ever said ever. Sixth? Is that our economy, or our safety,

1:34:40 Right. jobs. And I just don't think it would be, you know, And apparently what was said was that they had said to the Russian people they were in contact with, look, this is all just rhetoric. What do you do? So you read my emails, I'm going to launch a bomb at you? new president would have, you know, or would start to have more and I Even if you think about, there was a cyber attack by a nation state against our electrical kit, for instance.

1:37:23 grid. And so it's a fairly frail thing anyway. Yeah, maybe, again, you get some crazy ass, you know, leader of a small nation, you know, that decides to do something or something, or they get overrun, and it falls into bad hands, whatever. it's pretty serious shit. You got to do that. And things can get sideways really, really fast out Kind of a loose cannon. Yeah, he's his own guy.

1:39:45 Anybody else who said, yeah, I knew this was going to happen, they're just blowing smoke up your ass. Right, yeah, everybody's looking for a job, in a sense. Yeah. That's the way the game works, I guess. the angst that's out there. Once the president gets in, you've got a duty to work and make the It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Yeah, no, I agree 100%. Yeah, roads, bridges.

1:44:04 But you could also argue it's actually a beneficial thing to have a lot of people talking at you, taking a lot – because they do seem willing to listen to a lot of different people, right? various headline of the day the cult of personality yeah and there's and there But there's a large portion of the media out there that really wants him to fail, there were people on the right that wanted Obama to fail.

1:45:56 So, and this is your country and you got kids and you got, you know, whatever. You might criticize his decisions. Do the, you know, the political thing. pushed their agenda in a proper manner. I think if one thing that we can look forward to with Trump is that he's so transparent and if something pisses him off, he's immediately going to talk about it.

1:47:23 No, I think that's right. or that sort of thing. They look at them as being some irreproachable It drives the academics and others that have, you know, typically occupied the far left. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, fun of them. Yeah. Yeah. and took a big hit for it, told me it cost him millions of dollars, And so he's not voting. He's not a Trump supporter right right many people accuse him of being so, and that's why he took so much heat about it.

1:50:07 I mean, I didn't know that about him. I don't have a cubicle. Is there a real bunker? Cotton, you know what? It's still bad out here. Why did Right, right, right. And this guy was standing three feet away from the fucking president. I think that was it, right? The Secret Service has asked him to leave, obviously. First of all, he shouldn't have been

1:53:02 So there have been, you know, little situations like that. And it's just really, it's always high stress. Don't take a bullet. Like, that's how crazy Yeah, hopefully so. high net wealth families, high net wealth individuals. you know, you sometimes get, you know, the bodyguard, you know, they hire whoever happens you know, yeah, exactly. So, you know, again, I'm not sure how we veered off into that conversation,

1:56:24 are pretty much the same age. a mutually assured destruction, in a nuclear bomb. Good luck with all that. And I remember looking at him, and I told him, Oh, my God. an order that ended the Office of Strategic Services, which was the old precursor for the CIA. fine, let's do a diplomacy, but we just need to be pragmatic and understand, look, we're not going to,

1:59:44 Union was the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century. And he's absolutely serious about it. So he's been trying to rebuild that in some fashion or another ever since then. And it's not just territory, although he's done a pretty good job of that. We forget that before Crimea, he rolled troops into Georgia, not the state of Georgia. You're thinking, oh, my God. Really?

2:00:25 Well, because it's important to his fleet. mean it's not gonna it's not gonna happen he's not gonna risk losing that right? Not say, well, I'm sure he doesn't mean that. I'm sure what he means is like, you know, So we have to be pragmatic about it and dealing with it. Yeah. I mean, there's an extreme form of nationalism and patriotism and this loyalty to the KGB.

2:03:01 They're going to love democracy because we love it. What the hell? You can always want peace and you can strive for peace, but I have not seen a world that works differently. head of the Doing it militarily. All these Yeah, yeah. Oh, I know, I know. I think what he's thinking is, you know what, we need to, as an example, the military. As soon as they found out that Nancy Reagan based all of her decisions and all of her

2:06:07 Is she being serious? Ivanka. Oh, yeah. News, I don't know how big it is right now, but this is... They're going to have priority. This is the Trump quote. He's so crazy. Let's end with this, because this is now an e-friend of mine. Got the cancer. What is this? Okay, so it's like the walls of water bricks. Oh, his channel's gone? Instead of on, like, legs, it's set down on these buckets of survival food that he recommends.

2:09:39 Vic Berger presents Jim Baker's Buckets. And that's his new gal. New bulk sampler bundle. Well, for eating. He's reaching in and eating it. Just picks him up by the ass. That's like curry. Good, so that's what the shovel's for. Yeah. mitigation needs. You work with corporations right now. Here it comes. Here comes the look. Look at her Please do. but we're going to play the fights and not watch them.

2:12:45 before then. We'll have it on record.