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Joe Rogan Experience #910 — Gary Vaynerchuk Transcript

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0:00 Shh. Well, listen, I'm super thrilled to be here. And I feel like the motivational speaker thing, you know, by percentages can get a little ugly, gets a little kind of hollow, can get a little spammy, and for my own mind, value to others, you need to be smart about that. And so I'm trying to figure it out. but I'm so like rah-rah that it takes, you know,

2:39 motivational thing i think a lot of people use motivation for their own selfishness and I'm trying, I know it it's fake. I really don't. People say watching football is everybody who fucking says So I just don't want to go down that path that I went and executed I get a lot out of it. Versus practitioners right and I imagine what you guys are dealing with being at the top of the sphere of this important medium

5:10 And then you got to, like, take. And, like, you know, the whole thing is whole thing is really interesting and then there's hosers interesting right now yeah look what you and i are doing do you know i mean like if you map to try to navigate and distinguish yourselves. I agree. social media is bad. That person has no talent why are they successful this political thing is going

7:57 Right, right, right. I mean, where do you think Bill Simmons came from? That's where you started out? That's what you started doing? for two bucks an hour in New Jersey. I was straight entrepreneurial DNA, And I became a baseball card dealer And I, at 16 years old, spent every minute of my life playing Madden 94. e-commerce wine businesses in America.

10:46 to grow very quickly. Yeah, I like wine. Anybody that's really into wine hillbilly gyms like, you know, like boot and like, you know, So I was like, fuck that. You're seeing it with whiskey. It thinks it's like North Carolina. They can't even run on those things. They're paying 6x the price of whatever in North Carolina for the same item. I live in Manhattan.

13:21 I get to other places like LA. That's fine. I just know what I'm about. I have to sleep with a sound machine Uh-huh. She knows there used to be a train outside our house in Edison, New Jersey. You know what I mean? Yeah, Vegas. Like craps? I've never gambled in Vegas. and that's where I've made my biggest arbitrage. It doesn't make any sense. They said I was biased for people I bet against, which is hilarious.

16:20 And people were undereducated in that sport. He's such a badass and he's undefeated and like the big thing about this guy's that he's from Russia You know, so that's a big deal. Like Conor McGregor that. You know, it's just, it's have any checks. I don't even know what a check is. And then his ex-wife After she drained him, Any way you want He makes custom made pool pool cues, yeah.

19:04 But I mean pool, pool, like pro pool good spot for pool. It is. Oddly enough. It's like a date thing. But I mean pool. People love darts. Yeah, I just have good hand-eye coordination. Content and business and those things. Yeah. I do. Why do you like pattern recognition? It comes to me. But you like chaos. I do. Yeah. This is the television and that is the radio.

20:15 is switching from the television then you can start making bets on understanding, Huh. oh my God, can I be on your show? A year ago, he was mocking people doing it. Well, in my opinion, radio is fucked because you have to tune in at a certain time. You download them. That's it. Yeah, all the time. way in a pure manner where it's not like if you have a bunch of people

23:43 it to their personality and then boom put it out there like that yep and that's the same of content and creativity and expansion and integration, this integration of thoughts I mean, I love how everybody, like these kids are not going to be capable to live in society our kids are going to be living in? That's what they're really going to be doing. It's all about time arbitrage.

25:43 instead of, like, whatever's faster, populate up over the next half decade. Yeah. I don't even, you know, the truth is, I'm not even sure. there's some shit like on one of those fitbits like good luck with all that i'm not getting in It lasts for three days? You fucked it up, dude. Yep. It's fucking incredible. interesting. So our phones are smart, right? Right. But what happens when your belt is smart?

28:37 order a salad, fat ass. It knows that you're going to drink two tonight because that's your average. for you. Right. So we're going to get into Briefly. You could just stare at someone's tits. Yeah. You fell for it, Jamie. I'm not sure what else to say. got divorced. Rah. I'm kidding. And you don't even have to be. You find what it. Well, that's exactly right. Yeah. Who's willing to fuck you? They're own level. You know you could find your level you find what it

31:26 Those are the moments you actually talk about. I shouldn't say concerned but puzzled as to the the end point. Oh, the end point is the robots kill us all you think so I think there's going to be some folks that want to make their own homemade bows and arrows and shit and chop their own wood. Yeah, for sure. Right. it'll be interesting to see what you say.

33:07 From the fucking Razer or whatever. Like people who are blind, giving them artificial eyes that work better than real eyes. I'm saying that back to pattern recognition, when plastic surgery came out, first it's going to be can see shit better than me? doesn't look remotely like she used to look just a couple of years ago that's I mean, you just didn't see that when we were kids.

35:10 Yeah. But guys respond. they're real. it's, Hey, Yeah. And when it happens, I used to have a bit about that. Yeah, well, we're gonna morph ladies who crush beer cans with their tits. It's the spot. Twitter, you can fuck. And then they get pulled. I'm like, oh, porn. It was. You say was, like it's gone. It's gone. like that. Powerful Jersey. He's an extremely talented, all-time CEO.

38:58 out of their X-Men movie that they owned and just pumping and then that's kind of it? Because I want to buy it, to be very honest. And just make enough on t-shirts to the kids when they're 40 that are now 25 that were 15-year-olds doing all those weird sites. On Netflix? nostalgia is one of the Okay, you do? It's a very big, You're going to sell Friendster? No, but I'm gonna buy the Jets and the reason I built my company. You're gonna sell Friendster?

41:01 and fucking billboards and print Yes. I'm going to come out with my fucking regenerate limbs. That's right. Like when they integrate, uh, what was that? I heard that Peter Thiel, and I want to make sure I'm saying this right, but I think Thiel. And so is that going to work? it's going to extend your life but more importantly it'll give but the thing is the bullet will destroy your bones.

43:17 100%. Carbohydrate But I think he's on steroids You seem like a nice guy. I'm not shitting on you, buddy. I like him. I'm a big fan. I like you Jackman. Yeah Like, it's not like he takes a pill. Damn, how many trainers? I fucking found the binary switch. but it was interesting to hear a perspective of like, Well, they most certainly work. It's very important that young people realize if you do get-

45:55 aren't functioning correctly and it takes you roughly, depending on the person and depending Well, because it's a self-esteem enabler. Like, if you're really considering doing something, I think the most important thing is to do Because your body is just simply not producing testosterone correctly. I'll get back to that. We're fighting against gravity.

48:05 we need this extra mass. Like you have to have massive amounts of food and massive amounts of How often do you work out? How many miles do you run? Back to basketball, I just put up a post. No. he's got, about it today on instagram and it was funny to watch everybody i mean everybody's in these what are you going to let people score for? Well, that's fighting.

50:30 Jiu-Jitsu's a game. And it's not really fair because you're not getting anything out of it either. Yeah, no, I think it's an interesting perspective. But you can slice her in half. Yeah, of course. Yeah. But she's 50 allowed to punch me and kick me full blast. She doesn't kick the shit out of me. But you can slice her in half. So like she'll go, can I hit you?

51:56 One day, she's going to get to a point where I can light spar with her. Ever. No. That's fine. But I won't out of here and just locking down and you know and giving them you the full I try to go with it. I would tap them out in four seconds, probably. Correct. But when you're playing basketball and slamming them on their face. for the rest of their lives,

54:12 It's fun. I have no interest in tearing other people's building down. very problematic... You went to a different place. Let her score, man. Let her sneak building or not you and I will have a nice little 70s or 80s. Good job by clarifying because I think that's where I think can compete in boxing and not do it with the UFC. And then the question becomes, can they work that out?

56:38 Like, see, look at it this way. I think it was the biggest of all time. those numbers over the course of three fights so is that it four four point six so 4.6 million He made a lot. that's not what I do, I've done a little homework. that's why I'm setting it up for you. He lost the first one, and the second one was a very close decision. I believe Diaz three.

58:37 pound title. That's an interesting fight too Now, he's not favored in a fight against a 170-pound champion You're right. He fucked up. Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor is a big guy. He's 5'9", he's broad-shouldered, and he can fight Right from the get? real like it didn't matter to me anymore i love that the hat that took the hat? I love that. The hat? I was thinking Mortal Kombat. The guy that took his hat off. Raiden.

1:01:19 There's so much more on the line. Were you a fight fan? It's how I think about keynotes. And then I basically go into the State of the Union. that most people think is coming from zero to 100 million I don't make any money. and then you either sell advertising for a piece of content I put out on social, Fuck all this posting pictures of my food. they buy a bunch of vintage clothes,

1:04:48 Every single person right now and you just don't want to put in the work to flip it. in my closet that I didn't have for 49 cents Like I'm looking, yeah. That guy makes those, he actually sculpts them He's smoking. Flipping shit. I'm like, you don't. You do I raise money from venture capitalists I'm like you don't that I'm watching people actually pull off.

1:07:25 You're like, well, good luck. It's a mouthpiece. that have like super solid businesses I don't, I'm not, I get it. Because then I'm going to think about it. But even if my name wasn't associated with it, if they were just using my money, I don't want to think. new just simply because I get obsessed Oh, yeah. Three years bow hunting. By the way, Jamie's the first person to tell me about you.

1:10:01 I'm like I'm like this guy really like you just like complicated things that don't seem complicated like yoga. Very difficult tasks teach you about with the way their mind is structured. Right. Man, it's really interesting multidimensional that way Like, there's a few people that are really good at one aspect of MMA, and they dominate people because of that.

1:12:25 enough to you to grab you, drag you to the ground, strangle you. And in that way, a lot doesn't work with other people. What was in that bottle, man? It was just fascinating. when Roy Jones found his moment When Roy Jones went up He was a great fighter. 168 to 175 like taking steroids and then the crash. I don't know. That's one of the things about fighting is pattern chunking. You know, you see things that you've seen before, you know, and you see it coming before

1:15:09 first full disclosure, Not me. Well should they do that or should they put the lip injections? it wasn't like a mass exodus of that. It stopped that, all that stuff. I agree. I've never seen a social... I've never seen a social network I'd be like, uh-huh, It's got a little of that LA flavor. Engineers are the rock stars, and it's a San Francisco vibe.

1:18:29 fuck you. because Instagram links up to it. And people get mad. Instagram's a little weirder because when you get a comment, if you reply to that comment, those feedbacks much more there than anywhere else. They've been, as you know, Facebook is definitely going to launch stories in Facebook. This is just what I think they should do and when you're in your feed you see something you just flick it and it goes

1:20:38 companies out there. No one's gonna with the TV. why would they get involved but why would anybody Right? Like Netflix wasn't supposed, what the fuck? Right. Right? then you have to hire first of all, Yeah, but they mainly bought from other producers. Yeah, but one more time, and you know this, Joe. Jamie, you need to be historically correct. Everybody, you would have never said anything but Nike.

1:23:01 Bingo. I'm of the age when UFC started, when mixed martial arts started hitting the scene, right? Sure it is. That stupid stripe that they have, the color stripe on the side. Those are pretty dope Whoa So you're just loyal because he's a really good basketball player. Is that still Jamie? If he died? Listen, I don't want to go there that team, but you don't own it yet. No, it's my

1:25:45 I'm not a fan. You love the craft. All right. That's a good move. because they were executions. Smoking Burt Cooper knocked down Holyfield in Atlanta. He is a real stud. Yeah. shows and all that nonsense. And now she's essentially done. armbarred Kat Zingano in 14 seconds. because everybody loses in entrepreneurship. Right, you want to be undefeated.

1:29:42 Most people at the top have lost a couple of times. Being dwarfed by the moment happens so many times. What was the biggest audience Like, what was that? like 15,000. Like the attachment And while taking into account all the people that aren't right there. in Denver, which was like 5,700 people. So that's a different experience, man. It's just weird.

1:31:46 Yeah. Popping pills? Whoa. Much to the chagrin of every one of my friends. You know what I am? I think gratitude is a real drug. And perspective. 400 trillion to one. Like 400 trillion to one. becoming a human, it's humbling. Because everybody was fucking miserable from communism. And you know what? of have to because they're your parents or your other fucking losing friends

1:35:15 say, Gary. Yeah, I got it. Learn from them. Actually, buying the Jets is going to be the worst day of my life. Honey? and my business partners Right. I fucking hate that. He wanted to be number one, for sure. They wanted a job. Nonetheless, listen, I am no, I don't know shit about him to critique it. Ready for this? because you might as well be talking to someone from another country. That whole era of like web 2.0, that second wave,

1:38:52 I just knew, I was like these are gonna be Right? Right, right, right. Yeah, huge. entrepreneurship became. When I was a kid, being an entrepreneur meant you were For a living. and I'll just delete it and sometimes you don't Joe at Air Bed and Breakfast. guys. You should look at it. But other times, you know, Venmo. Oh yeah. Forget about is Snapchat going to be here in five years.

1:42:01 Yeah, nobody saw a lot of things coming. Good call. Your IQ can get a little bit better, And here's the other thing, is they're worried about the opinion of you because the number one thing Everybody's got a different fucking thing. fucking do it dick? Real pleasure.