Joe Rogan Experience #913 — Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 do do five four three two one young jamie gave me the fake gun pointy fingers so we're live I just hear, you know, occasionally Alex Jones is this right-wing conspiracy guy. man i want to get a drink and he went into there and he he had some whiskey did he have some whiskey But it was a dangerous proposition Yeah. But, you know, they look like some of them look like people from Spain and some of them look like Native Americans.

2:49 looking to confirm so he just like had this agenda that he had to talk to alex jones even after he of thing that for me it's like if he's denying that then fuck that guy he's saying you know There's a few of those things that get through where maybe if he had someone next to him going uh super organisms like i think we're embedded in a super organism you and i've talked about this

5:28 shrimp parade thing. And, you know, even if we stop being humans to do that, which is. You're just looking at what's going on. And if it breaks off It would be so scary to see like a floating state in the ocean Fukushima the radiation is worse than ever ever Yeah, and they don't know what to do. Yeah, I have no idea how to contain it not all problems are solvable

7:35 Well, see, so much of technology is based on this idea that, you know, when we need, What was it? They were talking about a young scientist but it was it was fairly recently just go over the fairly recent podcasts and vice did a thing really incredible because what Shane Smith was saying is essentially we have enough nuclear Like right now, they're trying to open coal mines again for fuck's sake.

9:48 Yeah. I mean, I've been saying this for a long time that I essentially think that what we're doing is giving birth. that, man. I like being by myself. I like being essentially immortal, immortal, single-celled I saw you posted some shit, and I was like, yeah, I don't want to see that. But, I mean, 25% of the species have gone extinct in the last generation, something like that.

11:44 it was the dinosaurs. I think it was what million years ago. I think it was the dinosaurs. even have bows and arrows they have atlatls right which are cool they're cool they're pretty cool Also, a lot of, you know, the big game died. The giant carnivores, the big giraffes and all that shit that was here but also a lot of shellfish A new estimate finds a species die

13:33 Tell me about it. it well we can't comprehend it no like we're living in a world we can't comprehend, which again gets back to this whole hunter-gatherer thing. Yeah. Yeah. You see these people pointing bows and arrows at helicopters. pilots they're like smugglers whatever and they get hired to go in and bomb this uncontacted tribe at the airplane and they're laughing like this fucking guy thinks he's gonna shoot down an

16:27 flies out to this spot in the jungle where they're supposed to bomb them that day. What year is it? I was fresh out of high school. Because he's in Navajo, and when he saw that guy shoot the arrow, What a great plot. Jesus Christ. I can move back in time. And it's fucking wild. Yeah. I feel like, I was saying this on my podcast the other day, I feel like, you know how the

18:36 Tom Waits and Tom Barringer. I think so. Look at that. just traveling through the air at a high rate of speed, And I think it's just so scary that there's a part of our brain that just puts it off. And he has some incredible lens on it. Because it links up to twitter and the twitter it like 1880 or something there was a big one in north america and it melted out the transmission

21:30 And people who live in like Phoenix people did that for a long time. thinking that might not be the case they might have a lot of debate on that yeah you studied a lot of like ancient In the case of fire, what they're looking at is that's, where it appeared to be 40,000. that when a new piece comes in, that's left in the, They just keep backdating things.

24:05 Oh, that show, like, grids and things? Like, who's the, who, what's this? You're curious, but you're not disciplined. or anything like that but you do have an overwhelming desire to have fun and be comfortable For real. And so many people that I know that are like in your intellectual realm are fucking freaking out all the time. I thought Sex at Dawn was amazing.

26:37 That's what I love about it. And it occurred to me later like that, you know, I'm not dealing with the kind of numbers Because I don't see anybody. Like when you said, hey, Chris, it's been a while. You know, what's really interesting is Duncan and I, we were having a really hard time spending We would get together for that. I don't like when people like bring a laptop

28:44 I would encourage people to have podcasts, to have their own podcast, thing to do is just put it down and this form of conversation that could like the kind of like i It's true. Ooh, that's a great idea. somebody yeah also the kind of people that i have on my podcast are like you they're people you want differently because i was like i love hanging with you guys because nobody gets offended about

31:30 had a sexual thing, and it was all cool, and it was just really beautiful, and they're talking about how they met and the history of the relationship and all that. and they're not denying how intense and sad and scared they are. And tells crazy Yeah. Right? and they'll express the emotion Terrifies me and what one of things that terrifies me the most about it is that it is in our face every day

34:38 and imprisoning people and the lights are off at night when you fly over it they take satellite emotion. But this is, man? How are you? Oh, everything's good, you know, blah, blah, blah. Same could be this awesome guy like, dude, what's up, man? How are you? Oh, there's some men. So I understand this is a different part of the world. And that system is like there's the women are trying to get away from it now.

36:51 They used to just shave it. And they wear these shoes with like a big spike on the back so they can't walk. Yeah, I mean, literally it's what it is. That's why that fatal attraction scene with Susan, what was her name? Yeah. That is a sex outfit. a remote location? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd have to do that one by Skype. articulate woman like that it's very

38:56 name occasionally and someone would be like oh the the podcast guy like yeah yeah and like his I sleep pretty good. But see, that's not chilling. See, that's half my day right there. So much pleasure in showers, dude. It's incredible. I mean, it's just constantly drenched with rain southeast. I don't know. I don't know where it is never been before yeah in a way during a regular day just driving down the street to the studio

41:27 And the fucking light is so beautiful after the rain. We just live this idyllic, idyllic. to appreciate normal existence there is no yang without yin that's for me for sure and there's I'm fine. But then it's like, Because podcasts, Yeah. Yeah, he's, you know, twice a week by himself. everything's the opposite here like even to the point where people think like oh you're living

44:27 You don't get that close to it. feeling anything yet he loosened it up yeah it occurred to you. You ready to do this or what, bro? Feel anything yet? When people just, you feel it? a mental hospital and um the psychiatrist who was treating him was a friend of mine and knew that i man he's like yeah i'm fine but everyone thinks i'm crazy because of this thing and it's just like

46:34 If you eat brownies, like too many brownies and mushrooms together. it to kick in he would roll joints and so he would just roll a shitload of joints and then just start Like to him, the idea of taking mushrooms and going to amusement park was insane. He would, he called it heroic dose. But I decided to take a heroic dose because it was like, I'm not going to do a lot more acid in my life.

49:06 with that sweeping psychedelic sacks of 1970 or could have been later was that maybe lsd went Like what a cool doctor. If you talk to a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist doesn't have any psychedelic experiences, you can understand it. What is it called? Who had he did it and he he had a life he lived a whole life I think it was with you. Yeah, I don't want to Duncan's podcast, but here's the clip of him doing it

52:37 You're fine, Ari. Hey. they're going to be quiet you know when you do it you know they're quiet when they do it you're Just wanted to see what it was like? how many minutes or time whatever but the the first period um yeah there was that sort of ego got chronic pain and you know suffering all this not the one who's, you know, got chronic pain and, you know, suffering all this shit. Um, so there's a separation, but what I experienced with that was the absence of

55:59 And I was like, if you're going to play music, play some fucking Bach or something. i guess stanhope did that 5meo dmt back when you could buy it online yeah and he did it at my place But I don't know how much. yeah like but i was worried i was like i can't kill my friend i was literally worried for a few because that when i did it it felt like i got shot through a cannon it was like like the the

59:18 Like it would bring you to this weird geometric white thing Fuck you. Fuck you. See ya. So you never got done explaining how much did you actually take? I met this dude in Montana recently. So I don't know that 20 would be... That's all Sandoz, right? Orange Sunshine. Nicholas Sand and Tim Scully but within like a few decades I mean, talk about old research. There were thousands, tens of thousands of scientific papers published on how hallucinogens affect the brain.

1:02:51 And you go, oh. Oh, my God. I don't know. Do you remember hearing that it's bullshit? I wonder if there's a connection between like some of them have like really distorted perceptions of what's going on right now in terms of like an experience will happen and they'll have a version of the experience. Did you blow a fuse? He had a psychotic break. People can blow their brains out on a variety of different substances that are readily available.

1:05:47 them the first time. I would hope so. So neurosis. She'll understand once I talk to her. People get addicted to each other. If it was completely negative deep affection and this addiction that we develop towards each other. They all look the same. And apparently the fireworks scared the dog and the dog jumped the fence and And he said, that's not Brandy.

1:09:01 They took it back to the pound. But my point, yeah, no, the dog was like, you know, what did I do wrong? It's like you adopt a kid and like, eh, they're going to send you back. But my point is, they're in the backyard with the dog. a girlfriend i'll take whatever what do you got well that's a thing with a lot of people that You get your kisses in, get your pets in.

1:10:47 when you pet them yeah they'll accept your love yeah which is nice sometimes that's enough dogs Check this out. That's the pig. I have a friend who has a pig, a pet pig. Yeah, it's a bummer. There's a certain amount of cruelty involved in that delicious taste. died real quick i shot it with a 300 wind mag and it died instantly in the head boom no in the body

1:12:54 And I know that people have a problem with people eating animals, and I get that. When they're six months old, they start shitting out pigs. 350 pounds. And it's to protect them from going to war with other male boars and those giant tusks. They're not stopping the growth. were keeping them in check. I think William Randolph Hearst had boars up there.

1:15:36 And my point is, there's no predator now. You know, life eats life. And as soon as she started growing her own food, she realized there's no way to even grow food without killing stuff. food itself right right from the source it gives you this understanding of it but still you can from the wild. There's just not enough well we have like a certain amount here. This is a

1:17:42 And now those 100, most of the time it time, it's not even 50% success rate. We always, we have this weird thing where we go, well, everybody can't do that. Unless you're freaks. a meal and so he built a book around that but he i remember reading that uh essay in the new yorker i Justin's going to take me hunting. Cause they're pretty sure that they're going to be able to make that happen soon.

1:20:27 or most of us you know i would definitely try it my mother had a bowl of cheese puffs the other What did we find out that trans fats are in? It's not, That all started because at the end of World War Two, there were huge stockpiles of chemical weapons that weren't used. Yeah, we talked about this before. And graham crackers. Yeah. Yeah. Not a lot of Mexicans.

1:23:25 Yeah, But like, Sweaty. on the floor, I like what you're doing. But I think my body doesn't stink much. shit's not in front of you all the time but things that are around you all the time like when I used to have a carpet. I had a cat in college. rub his face on your face and you'd be like, oh, what a great cat. Kisses all over my... while holding eye contact with me.

1:26:25 Because if they walk in on you fucking, they're going to get horny. Mow! Which guy? He's not Peruvian, but he's based there. what you're saying but i think your your fears are unfounded you think so yeah that's the people Jesus Christ. Basically, right? and chase each other and hang out up there. is get people in their natural environment. That's what I'm trying. That's what I'm writing about,

1:30:03 whole thing this is this one's got like a laugh track on it. Why is it nine and a half? Right? And this fucking cat is just like all over the place rubbing her ass on my leg No, no. And like really like shocked and disappointed. And she, like, rolls over and looks at me, licking her face, and looks at me with love and gratitude. Yeah. What a great.

1:32:50 I mean, I've probably seen it 20 times, and every time I see details. it sitting in front of him all the time and he's wearing a serape yeah that guy's great and yeah what is yeah they're definitely not He used to put his foot on his Rottweiler's dick, and he would rub it back and forth, Like, the dog can't do it. dogs that makes sense keep it from humping your leg yeah yeah why not i mean you want them to be

1:34:57 And it's shaped like a dog. Yeah. They might get a little more excited if it looked like a real dog. Yes, yes. all the time. So he didn't want to do his studies. And she was working with John Lilly, who went on to invent the sensory deprivation tank. man when you're in war you're already deciding that you're killing people so the idea of killing pete townsend's almost deaf too right yeah he's been deaf for a while yeah the lead singer of acdc

1:38:40 that's it see this is it this keys back into me being a lazy hippie. I like moderate sound. I was there like a week ago. Do you remember that? Yeah, that's Salvation Mountain. I don't know what his official title was, but he was like the guy who got everything together, What was she on Saturday Night Live? I just watched it because that scene with Kathy Bates doing Sean Spicer.

1:41:07 I keep saying Kathy Bates. needs to do mushrooms. funny. Yeah. You know, and Alec Baldwin that rant that he did in that movie. It's really good. You know, Saturday Night Live is like a show that goes in cycles. Yeah. You couldn't do that anymore. That'd be cultural appropriation. right? Yeah, but it might be different if he When he would interview people and they didn't know he was Ali G.

1:44:04 what happened was, so and, you know, he gets into this whole thing, right? very quickly get in trouble but yeah are we gonna get in trouble right now Audio will. Yeah, it's whenever someone's content gets played, like anybody who owns this video, It's, I get it. There are a few. No, but I mean, that's his sort of identity. I'm proud of my Jewish identity and there are certain things I do and customs I keep.

1:47:14 He's got one foot in, one foot out. He does this Cajun cooking every Christmas. if someone wants to listen to something go check those two episodes out do you remember the names I haven't seen that since it came out. And then I'm watching like, there they are. Because people see famous people all the time in LA. Yeah, yeah. questions at you like they're interviewing you so what's going on like like right now i get a

1:51:03 compartmentalize a lot? You know, like, when I'm doing... No, it's not difficult. He was cracking jokes. Right. And I remember remembering that. Yeah. He did it for a little bit and people got so mad. Yeah, because he was trying to be funny. He was cracking jokes. at Dennis Miller. Yeah. or flair or senses of humor or unique points of view, it since I've been hanging out with you you know and and I've gotten to know some of the personalities

1:53:15 You're just reporting. All of them from the beginning. They don't just bring you in for the last few? fights, probably closer to 2,000 Yeah. so i have two monitors in front of me that give me two completely different angles do you get splattered Look, that's an easy part. Everything. Sure. Sometimes people will get staph from the fighter they're fighting, and you find out the guy had a sore, a staph sore, and he wasn't alerting anybody to it.

1:56:18 Yeah. shit like you got to be real careful with that stuff yeah you don't want to kill that flora yeah you know the flora this is something i researched Fuck, yeah. We're going to pop a sunroof on that bitch and just pull that baby. taints slit. I fucking get it. Yeah. weeks uh and then i was in southern africa i did a 10-day safari wow andibia botswana yeah how was that uh i wouldn't do the same thing again uh it was a it

1:59:13 No, there's no yellow fever there. and also you know i'll occasionally use some of the DDT shit on my ankles and my neck and stuff. Yeah. Right. moments where you know you're doing something good. Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing to my insides? I mean, I was having broken fire hydrant experiences in the toilet. It was blowing out of me. Like sulfur? for like a whole week.

2:03:11 But interestingly enough, there's a new law that just got, well, it might be proposed, Sometimes you got to go. Benil Dariush out, which was off, like, seriously? He's like, yeah, I'm gonna shit my pants. And while the fight's going on i'm like seriously i was like took my headphones off like seriously he's like yeah i'm gonna shit my pants and so like okay i know and so like i'm

2:04:36 I was supposed to go on stage, I'd be like, I need to take a dump. It's like, oh, this is, I got to like get my shit together literally and get it out of me. And it was in that movie Grizzly Man, that crazy dude that lived up. Yeah. Like eating a big meal and then try to work out? It's fascinating. He's been on your show a bunch of times. Tell me. is actually difficult i'm like i'm in great shape i'm like this i'm gonna be able to do this i work

2:07:30 It was definitely that. it was on concrete you know it's like the whole thing is weird yeah and the shocks on your knees You know, it's just strapped on their foot. I mean, it's supposed to be replacing that barefoot feeling, I suppose. Whoa. I don't know how legit it is. Occasionally, I'll do an elliptical machine or something like that with shoes on.

2:09:51 I don't know how real it is, but it is real that the a lot of the nervous system terminates And that's the thing. Yeah, there's nefarious intentions. You like whoa, how do you clean it? I don't know man. You couldn't even go near that thing that dog But that dog was obsessed. that people died, the average age was much few years where there's a lot of

2:12:49 Chicken pox from chickens, obviously. But what I was talking about mostly is disease and violence. 45 years. Where a lot of people say, they love to quote that thing, they say that men make so much more money than women that women make sort of 80 cents to the dollar. The men are at higher risk. Some men will fucking work themselves to death where very few women will take it to that level.

2:14:59 And that men may be more confident and cocksure of their worth, you know, more cocky with human bodies evolved to live into the 70s so it's a statistical thing it's like if bill gates moves Yeah. Yeah. And that kid's not going to, that person's not going to grow up to contribute to the group. And it's the least cruel option that they've come up with.

2:17:39 Joe, you've killed nine old ladies this month. Heartbreaking pictures of parents leaving their children in China's notorious baby hatches. What in the fuck? Oh god the baby this is she says in quotes my baby cannot take care of Take that off the screen, sir. Very common. Yeah So you would hire this nanny because your kid had Down syndrome or some sort of a disease or something like that?

2:20:11 Well, I mean, today we have abortion and I don't want to get into, you know, heavy shit, but like now if a baby's inconvenient or there's a disease that's detected or whatever, you know, No, I mean... That's 100% the problem. Like he was making this like about at, you know, six weeks of life or whatever it would be. So an embryo is the earliest stages.

2:21:38 So I mean, this comedian, we were arguing and he started calling me a right winger. almost everybody right when you get into the fucking the last couple of weeks of a baby's When's it okay? Shoot out that fertilized egg would shoot out of your pussy and then that would be a wrap I don't think that there's I don't necessarily think it's wrong or right, but it is a thing

2:24:11 Because the differentiation is the pro- Right. Yeah. I will not allow you to eat meat either. Yeah, they're crazy. Oh, I would never let my husband blah blah blah it's part of their eroticism to feed you as much as possible so you'll get as fat because i love I think that makes total sense. Who is Wade Davis? But he's the guy. He lived with a lot of

2:27:58 And that night he went out. He's insane. guy jesus christ what a life that guy's lived yeah yeah he's uh again that's a guy like i want Or fairly often. Fuck yeah. doesn't mean anything anymore.