Joe Rogan Experience #943 — Moshe Kasher Transcript

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0:00 I wish I was really that excited. Well, glasses, glasses, not sunglasses. Just the way you button that shirt all the way up to the top that little top And it's like the Matrix programmers can't keep up with the code. this is the most reality we've had in a long time, right? Yeah. So what they do instead is they put up Everyone in Russia knew it wasn't working, but it served them more to pretend that it was working.

2:55 as if it was real. Then Anthony Rumble Johnson retires from MMA or something. they were like 10 times as long as this American superpower has existed. So, yeah. It was like really together, very relaxed. Because they're specifically designed to create a mini utopia, and they always fall apart The best you'll ever get out of a girl that grew up in one of those communes is like,

5:04 Like you can't have a universal right if some people just don't want to build a house and they don't want to work and they don't want to do anything and they want somebody else to build a house for them. Right. Right. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I resources we do have the resources right that's true all right. I think yeah but every homeless person, uh one of those one of those super white countries switzerland i think it was switzerland

7:14 their resources thin across the globe making battleships and shit right I was thinking about epicenter of comedy, right? Yeah. And some of the things I say, it's like, where is he? Chink sounds like a weird word to use, even if you're not using it in a racist way. They're like, just don't use it. Yeah. a part of karate it might have been reversed you know sometimes they do it

10:39 Yeah, as long as it's not the actual Hitler. Stretch it. You should call that, that's your next special, Mouthfucking Hitler. I was the first guy. I follow where the trends go. give speeches with the long pauses and this very distinct pattern of behavior that's completely Yeah, and we're like, well, fuck this. it's so true and everybody knows it and yet we're all engaged in this willful

14:09 What are you saying? And you don't need to pretend to talk like that. This feels like a terrible new chapter in American history. Geppetto-ing evil and, you know, Well, it just seemed way You ever talk to a big businessman? because it's they're getting a little juice out of it every time they're doing it they're closing jet climbs out and then they have to escort him to his gigantic multi

17:38 to take a floating mansion out there in the south of France. $50 million is $100 million before taxes, right? You might feel totally full. It's a it's a castle on a boat that floats in the water. It's insane. Yeah, what that's a battleship This one's still in construction. Like, there's nothing about that that looks cool I don't, Yikes. Yeah, look at that.

20:54 and very wrong in your life. Yeah, you'll be straight up drinking arsenic at some point. Or they'll just take your company It's just a matter of keeping going, I guess. I was pretty disgusted by a lot of things Obama did, but it's like, that is part of the morality And this guy next to this guy now who's holding the camera says And all these people are following him with the camera on him.

23:33 That's close enough to a desperate ego where you like laugh at me. American religion It only makes sense sense there's always Like what what he's done charitably is amazing he does a lot of great stuff with his money they didn't do in there any investigating on it until finally somebody actually did I think it and test you for all sorts of different diseases.

26:34 saying that she was ignoring all the negatives and concentrating on the positives. And these get tested and screened for all these diseases and it really wasn't Top chimp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What country? Well, call the line right now if you know what woman got blown up. Anyway Something like that. Hey, yes. Yeah, I don't know. What does that mean, though?

29:52 societal systems are the bigger is on the same path because there are systems structural systems in place that want to smack So in order to get up there, in order to be a CEO, you have to be more aggressive, more powerful, more Steve Jobs-y. nursing i don't think that's the case anymore it might not be anymore but i mean i guess what i'm like formulate some sort of a solution to figure out some biological issue.

32:40 and their ambitions entering into certain fields. And so like the freedom that we desire as men and and i'm I don't always. Meat? which is, And if we did, That we're herbivores. Yeah, for a Big Mac, actually. This is the kind of pernicious. The Mac Junior. But it comes with our special sauce. What's in the Grand Mac? cheese at all hashtag i eat melty i mean it's this is the problem with me it's not really cheese at all. Hashtag I eat melty. I mean, this is the problem with meat.

36:27 there would be no moral there would be no moral question about also be no elk there would be a lot and then you bring up the environmental and you just go, I can't defend that. I'm not sure. And that's kind of representative, I think, of the way a lot of women feel like the struggle achieving. She's like, this is like her mindset. She enjoys it. It's not that many.

39:34 What things would you find that were true about the women back home that were true of the women up there? Like if you could somehow strip away society altogether, then what would be left over? is the idea that you are morally superior to an animal that can't discern between the moral This is what it is. There's a bunch of stuff that grows, there's a lot of people that want to say uh meat eating is bad for you. It is absolutely not. It's just not. What's bad for you is sedentary lifestyle.

41:39 algaes and or bugs if you some people are willing to eat bugs bugs are the Not only that it's been proven that they communicate with each other, but they also produce human neurotransmitters I heard that's responsible for a lot of forest fires. And this is one of the reasons I think this. something's chewing it and then scent comes downwind Wow, that's wild.

44:06 Well, it's evidence of some sort of communication because one one plant way up there is communicating with the other plants that are nowhere causes harm. Life eats life. And one of the weird things that people do where they have no problem And you're stripping nutrients from the soil. And this is by someone who is a vegan who was saying this. there's this connection that's inexorable.

46:20 if you believe that humanity has a moral, but then factory farming and you know worst case scenario yeah and the worst case scenario is the Right. were like, we're good. They can't even take it for free. I dabble in shit. When you think about how much shit. And then my wife was like, the fact that there are $4 pillows is like systemically connected to like society's collapse on some level.

49:59 Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, in order to support, like, how much do you have to make to qualify for welfare? Almost nothing makes me more angry than a person who's never interacted with real poor people talking about the lazy people on welfare like this, Wouldn't you rather have that system in place than the system that says, sorry, we're worried about people taking advantage of the system so everybody, including the good people, can go fuck themselves?

51:41 They were boyfriend and girlfriend. when they're talking about free housing. I mean, I just, I would rather help people that need the help and allow someone to juke It is either inevitable. Oh, yeah. It's very few. I might have made those numbers up. coal industry employs fewer people than arby's holy shit imagine if he was talking about arby's think that is like narcissistic yeah i just think he's there's something wrong with him no doubt

55:26 We were driving on this road and it said Trump links, like this golf course. Can you play video on here? I mean, mean look Trump's Trump steaks are by far the best tasting, most flavorful beef you've ever had. It's the best of the best. Trump steaks are raged to perfection It's my favorite food. There's something funny about it. Yeah. image i go to brookstone or sharper image that's my butcher not only that whoever wrote that like

59:03 Hillary Clinton, who cares at this point? So the example of how he got sued for racial discrimination, he's getting sued for racial They're only looking at this flashy, insane P.T. Barnum-level lawsuit. Well, he's definitely a very litigious guy. Someone's trying to get paid dump claims immunity from apprentice contestants lawsuit that somebody's trying to get paid

1:01:23 Oh, I have no idea. She, there was some, some article written about how many cases of hers actually go to What about? that upset and But then you realize very quickly that all of your memories belong to you because other people are in them you know what i'm saying so And I would take a picture of you putting me in a rear naked choke. Here's the picture.

1:04:04 Hilarious. you could defend yourself and maybe win. You could spend $250,000 and maybe win, Yes. Would you hear him talk about it during the run for president? He was talking about people writing No, Harvey Fierstein. I don't either. I can do it. Welcome to movie phone. press one now. like these really scary hacks. scary yeah the phone freaks what they were doing was like not even interesting anymore yeah

1:06:59 He was one of the first dudes that was doing that. So he's blowing his ears out it starts with a body work session you ever had a job like that you meet him at a rave jobs there Yeah, it's like. Maybe if he'd... I almost got... I was really into like Dracula. Do you want to see them? So it's like is that where you're from I was born in New Jersey and we moved to San Francisco when I was seven

1:10:17 I started negotiating with the guy I was like trying to get more bicycle for my you know what, forget it. He ran. If the guy just got out of jail, he probably didn't want to go back to jail again. Oh, Jesus. I remember I was a kid, and we were always, like, exploring places to go smoke weed. like with just a foot long walkway. Like there was another one

1:12:38 Like a little room inside of a a one person you know walkway to get to the room in the middle of the tunnel not the sewer tunnel But my memory is that it was like, I mean, as close as this mic is to me. I don't know. And then the train finally pulled off, and we, like, hopped back over. It stopped, and we jumped onto the tracks and climbed onto the back and rode it.

1:15:39 It's like the risk of like falling off of that thing was so dumb you were on top of it Like, you asked me, did I do anything dangerous? started a fire once in a warehouse i remember once we found this chemical in a uh in a somebody broke into a car and found all this chemical i don't know what it was but it was some like I remember we just laughed so much at these cops because, like, anyway, that was a good memory.

1:17:36 And then it got to the point where like, oh fuck, I can't do this. praying that nobody died and that you know we we didn't go to jail so we didn't tell anybody about I mean, it was, that's the problem. We talked about it last time I was here, how much I fondly remember psychedelics. But it's like once I wrote that book, I realized like I was a wild kid, just like you, you know, or maybe wilder than when you were really young. But I was a wild kid with a lot of behavioral issues, a lot of mental health stuff going on.

1:19:57 I go, oh, I got sober when I was 15. And I probably could take mushrooms now and be fine. Yeah. they're all fucked up right i don't necessarily think that would be me but i do know that right I'm not doing coke. I'm not, I think that they're powerful and necessary. Certainly wish I would like the experience of trying that with an adult brain or that paranoid feeling I think it just it forces your brain to examine all these perhaps

1:24:01 with his dad was dying there was a lot a lot going Well, that's one of the weird parts of drugs is that and I don't think that I have this you obviously don't but one of but it's definitely a incidental onset of mental illness. That's the scariest thing. Your brain is cooked. weed on it maybe if you pour you pour trauma on it because trauma is a brain chemistry buster too

1:26:29 Me too. The mother experiences any sort of violence or really bad neighborhoods or around traumatic situations that it elevates the fight or flight response in the baby. violence, if a woman is living in the, you know, infrastructural, like 2700,000 layers because that's not feminine you know, and they're, they're, they're handicapped by it literally, like whether it's a boy or a

1:28:56 when you have a friend that's a drug addict And having my brother's mental illness, my younger brother, it made me realize is like you actually have the same thought when there's a mentally ill person. It's really the same thing. I mean, I'm for it. I No, I don't have the bug. People seem to have inherent issues with it. But the Filipino culture. Is that right?

1:31:24 I don't know if you've ever been. I like, you know, I post and then people shitpost me and I kind of like go back and forth. They're like they're down to like get in. it's like a computer person going let let's just fuck with some people. It started in 4chan and kind of, you know, you are about Trump all of a sudden you see like 90 cartoons of like the most offensive thing that

1:33:52 I looked at some posts that she made recently about some magazine cover that she was on. Yeah. It's in the pantry. It's just like everybody's indecent now. so simple and easy. he's a black dude I haven't heard of it super intense moment in the film because the whole time you're with the guy he's so charismatic and brilliant and And you've only de-hooded 24 of them.

1:37:11 And he puts like anti-semitic stuff. I give a fuck about that. That's not real uh he lived in an all-white town except one of the klansmen that was de-hooded talks about But actually, my friend Tom, the Muslim, he's nice. You go, fuck those people, man. We're in like a crazy language war right now. That's the weird baggage that it has like it's the thing

1:40:38 Or like the family that's like, oh, it would be a great honor if you would wear this. It's like it's emotional. Why is that okay? a behavioral standard, right? this is absurd, why are you telling us to stop adopting these cultures? racism so they started trying to like parse it out people are going oh when you call someone a racist So what they- Well, I've heard people, though, enforce it.

1:44:58 You know, there's cornrows on Roman coins, actually, right? So the polo, for example, when you see you as a white dude or me as a white dude, You know, it has no connection to deeper root systems On the other hand, when a person sees a white person affecting a deep part of black culture without any of the baggage that is associated with it, like, for example, dreads, right?

1:46:41 So there's these consequences that black people experience because of black shit I want to hire him. There's a guy who What natural? What do you mean? But basically, there are a million different examples like that. no, Right, but should anybody be subject to your own emotions? is an important part of this. I mean, if you're going to accept the fact that there's some sort

1:49:47 Oh, but that's what I'm... I actually don't disagree with you. I think you're right about that. And yet I think it also is Indian headdress? No, I wouldn't. But the reason why you can't, and the reason why you shouldn't, We will laugh. People get pissed at you. and it is dumb but if you kind of like get under the dumb which is the name of my my third up my

1:52:34 make sense. Because they have the ability to point out something that they think is incorrect whether or not you know that the Greeks wore dreads, Yeah, I'm sorry. right i know when it's i know it's offensive when i feel it right you know yeah so if you kind of Right. Yeah, that completely makes sense. It's very weird. It's definitely, I, you know, I, I don't take stuff, antisemitism, antisemitism is

1:55:56 they would describe these like Christmas parties where it would only be Jews because the Germans But it's like, it's crazy. chess champions a bunch of there's a select gene pool um especially particularly european jews He also invented the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the environment. was the first guy to invent using poison gas, and they used that on the Allied troops in World War

1:58:57 fucking guy created the actual gas that was used in the fucking concentration camps to kill the Jews. And he left his kid behind with his dying wife to go to war. It's fucking crazy. Story's crazy. he was while he was on the run not sure i'd have to get into that but i mean that would be a crazy There's a reason for that, you know. to systemic oppression, right?

2:01:22 And so when you have a history of 500 years where no one in Europe reads except for the Jews and the clergy, well, no shit. And so you're not going to lend people money for no interest. Now, I'm not saying that's good or bad. that they lent them the money and that they needed and then when it was time to come collecting What happened with Martin Luther, the Reformation and the printing press with Martin Luther

2:04:02 And those people, there was a patriarchy there too, except that the patriarch was God or You don't have to accept anybody else's interpretation because they're just men as well. we want. You think what do you think of that's about by the way? And of course, when sex becomes a horrible taboo thing, then people gravitate towards Well, there's probably a whole host of reasons for that. Psychological reasons, but I think that a big part of it was being molested themselves.

2:07:07 It's like, why are there a certain percentage Whoa. It's like a teenager. He had these desires and he couldn't get help. Well, it's the same argument. They would use towards anime anime pedophilia or any any sort of That would only hold true if it wasn't for the fact that you, if you didn't see something important to go, I got to try that. Well, I think the

2:10:08 Like it's very, very treatable. that doesn't hold water. You know that these people are monsters. sense you know where it doesn't make sense history oh right because they used to have different views and a melon for ecstasy. I'm pretty sure they fuck the melon. Jesus. Why would you fuck a melon? It's Can child dolls keep pedophiles from offending? but I can show you guys if you want.

2:12:54 It's a Japanese website. Okay. You said they're fucked up. any young some melons up there it's uh what we're looking at they look like they're about 10. It looks like maybe younger even. against it because I feel like a grown woman should be allowed like there's all sorts of with a bunch of people they give you some money She gives him a back rub. a crazier argument i'm not crazier but a more a more even more compelling argument for the the

2:16:05 disabled they can't even masturbate wow and it's like i heard that and i was just like i went from Soft palate of your mouth and inside of your nose inside your nose. Wow. It's real intense. Why do they do that? Oh, it's so intense. dangerous because you can get infections and infection goes right to your bloodstream. Rolf the dog. I think the woman invented it because her son had cerebral palsy it was one of the best ways to alleviate some of his muscle issues was this intense form of manipulation because he had become

2:18:45 what we're doing is like, But the, So like Black Lives Matter is the ultimate example he gave. where we haven't been talking, doing something if racial inappropriate or sexual or um cultural inappropriate at the heart of it Overt and aggressive racism. Yeah, I think yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's insensitive than it's been before, is that we thought we got through that and that slowly but surely the

2:22:14 Right. and you're like, they don't have any charge or power any longer not only that there's so much gross Oh yeah. They used to, That's what they used to do. There are parts of how Italian it is it will boggle your mind like a God, it's pretty. And the further into it you go, the more pretty it gets. a town pool in the center of it and it was so cool and weird and there was this big old mount like mound of sulfuric residue this like soft white mountain

2:24:53 Pompeii, yeah. kind of like residue of the all the hugest society that has ever existed. They don't have them anymore. because the lower levels were where all the rich people sat. Hilarious. And they were getting jack how they had to raise up the side of the fences because the lower Yeah, that's what they say. But you can go wherever it's, but, you know, it's all water.

2:27:13 I heard about it. Make sure you call when you land That's right your parents were trump right you know or your your parents were the Rockefellers or whatever, Two million dollars. Or is he like, what have I done? there's so many people were there. the ultimate example because it's unclear what is real there like no one knows what the right Basically hearing a conspiracy theory that widely believed in a country that isn't my

2:31:16 Well, this was the same scenario that led Obama to make that speech saying that we need to go And then winds up acting almost instantaneously. You're the worst. They bombed some airfields. Yeah, let's wrap it up with depressing. We're basically, I mean. Yeah, I still live with my deaf mom. a lot of the fun stuff that you like to go to too, Did you come on sometime, Joe?

2:34:38 It's not like it's an actual. depth and hopefully that's what Tune in. If you're on a plane couple of times in this conversation go back to things and see how they're connected. We don't have an executive standing over our shoulder telling And they don't have much else. It's on, yeah. I mean, It's crazy. this used to be me thinking I deserved to go to Montreal.

2:37:23 You still need to come on too. I'll do it. Do you expect people to remember that? Oh, well, don't listen to them in the first place. So that's kind of what theater meets a TED talk kind of. Oh, that's cool. So that's in bite-sized, you know... It's electric. Did he keep it real? And clips of him talking about,'re gonna keep it real y'all He went deep.

2:39:41 well, white people as a whole are the devils of society Oh, it's amazing. Listen to the story. And MC Hammer got angry and called the head of the Crips in LA to put a contract out on their life, right? they're going to kill third base, right? OK. Bring them back. And he's like, stay with me. Wow, MC Hammer jumps the gun, huh? So when does your show start?

2:42:52 Well, thanks, brother. Let's do this more often.