Joe Rogan Experience #956 — Guy Ritchie Transcript

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0:00 Boom yes boom we're live what's up brother how are you man how are you Joe you got a little pocket Ooh, dude, you're thinking several steps ahead. They're also inefficient and ineffective because you sit in a chair, at you like valetudinarian or verisimilitude and then that keeps you occupied because you're And I was an impressionable young man of 10.

2:59 And it made a real impression on me well that's it's a fascinating era like or a genre you know that So it's almost like we relived it. a lot of it yeah wow what's that like um boring but creative um it's three years to make this So you're wrapped and packed in nine months, 10 months. do you have an actual schedule of when you think it's going to begin

6:39 You're coming out in, we were supposed to come out exactly a year ago. you give yourself the advantage new films breaking through where people are getting out and you've got to get as many of those people together as you can. and everyone knows what you're going to make by Sunday night on a Thursday evening. their own way usually in the end anyway but the financial aspect has become polarized it's too significant

9:57 and it's just it's become too competitive and too comparative That's all you hear. It's like the big story. Yeah, so you can it's like spectator sport who's the winner right you don't do you It does get weird, yeah. To live up to those expectations or to conform to these ideas that people have of your movies? So I don't mind the financial aspect of it.

12:28 But sometimes when you're talking with executives, they give you a certain amount of leeway. But people portray their agendas whilst you're you're in like conversation or they betray their priorities Never? Occasionally you find a token pocket square, but you can tell their heart's not in it the wife stuck it in there because she saw I'm going to work.

14:47 But I see a guy like you and I say, that's appealing. angry that the suit had been robbed from us and so i had to create an alibi a way in to understand and resold the waspy world back to the waspy world. and he refashioned that cliche to give it a new sense of life, a new sense of breadth. He put black people gesture. Did you ever read a book called Extreme

17:34 Why be subservient? You have to take possession of your life. It's exactly that. and there's a world in here But that's because you don't think don't hate the game love the game because you're in it mate so own the game accept Yeah, I would say it's exactly the scenario that we're talking about. we have to give ourselves enough confidence to reassure ourselves that we are enough however

20:52 And guess what? I'm in a good time because I'm owning the suit. So there's a father. even eat the food that he gives to the pigs at which point he says dad will you take me back You take a little step to the side. You'll always be with me. You're a good boy. But the essence of the story So in his recklessness and sense of adventure, somehow prostitute yourself before you realize your own value that is the essence of all stories

25:22 certain point of evolution and then from there he goes on to be the king there's a bit of a tussle all along the way, lots of wrestling matches. The significance of the extraction from the sword from the stone is the stone is the material world. You'd have to take away all these crutches. You've got to take away all these crutches you're operating so many levels underneath it. Yeah, but I'm a storyteller. It's my business.

27:28 I mean, that's a reoccurring theme in his work. the only one right right the weird thing about religion is religion has done to the spiritual significance of narrative what the businessman did to the suit. and we see the narrative for what we believe it to be, Like when you think of a guy showing up for work they did it in mean streets i don't know you remember harvey kytel getting dressed to go up

30:09 What the cuss is all that about? completely deconstructed on the inside, Well, otherwise you're not going to play the game, are you? That's the thing about ties. But it's, I mean, you would have to, in a deep disagreement, Like, if you went to a jiu-jitsu match and you had a rope around your neck, Really? i mean i'm all about creating what i call the hangman's rope out of the bottom of your gi

32:36 which is the wrapping around the wrist. the fight's over from there because you from then over? From there. Because from then on, What belt do you have? You've managed to keep that I think they do now more than ever. owning suits. I have my ideas But it looks wonderful on you. I did Shotokan karate, which I was obsessed with. at 84 so and back then there was no jiu-jitsu in london there was judo and they had what was

35:44 And I fell in love with jiu- I fell in love with Jiu Jitsu so I got a black belt No, no, no. Yeah, there's some guys in our gym in London, in Roger's place, that they're there five days a week, three hours a day. And as you see these guys reinforce that operating system, you see their game becoming more and more complex It's a fascinating process Once you engage in these sparring sessions, these sparring sessions with skilled practitioners, you're doing one of the most difficult things any person within a hundred mile radius of you that's not fighting for their life is doing.

38:34 I got a chap that I was with called Bobby the Tits, who was an Olympic judo player. go to church i don't know but there is a brotherhood that I found amongst fighters or I had a reason to lose my temper. There's no way around it. The trainers are good. or you see them in New York or in Los Angeles. you get on with the gaze you fight you get on with the gaze that you're fighting yeah and there's a

41:13 Yeah, right. You have no currency on the map other than your currency on the mat, right? There's a wonderful clarity in that yeah for a guy like you or any to any big-time celebrity Yeah. I mean, I'll muddy the water a bit now. So harking back to what we were talking about previously, I'm aware that you become less adventurous as your ego grows in jujitsu. Right. Particularly if the guy that doesn't tap. If you're the guy that doesn't tap, you don't ever want to be the guy that doesn't tap and you hunker up and you become a boring fighter and it's an issue you know those guys there's a couple of guys that i can think of one in

42:53 has an identity in itself, and it doesn't. feeling. And by the way, I suffer it myself because I don't like to tap either. But it makes other left and right and left and right with no ego. But like when these guys do it, like as they're doing doing it they're obviously using strength and they're countering with skill And I was in Brazil in Sao Paulo in 2003 when he burst onto

45:31 They're just flowing. Yeah, it's got to be you both got to be complicit yep yeah absolutely yeah it's very it's very interesting watching like two really really high level guys like this role or like you know hadra gracie and uh braulio estima or something like that england's got a And before then, it was just judo, just Nawazza. Her armbar to this day, I believe,

47:04 But she understands armbar so well. and you've got to try and do something to him. And then when you see something like that armbar come sneaking out of nowhere, with no pauses or ums or no filler, Yeah. handled now um you said you had your knee fixed you uh you blew would you blow an acl acl i've amazing. And where did you have that done? Now my cartilage has gone on the knee.

50:26 in his approach to it. But what he's saying is that they are able to regenerate cartilage and with those three C, I have a machine out back and also strengthens it Everything's blown out. He has no biceps. His biceps are completely severed off of his arm When it's going down, it's pulling the back, an active decompression. So I need a way like this.

53:18 Like you feel in the lower back in a weird way. Do you know what that is? like it thinks you have a fever. I had a bulging disc that was making my hands go numb, totally went away, So I didn't think about any of these things until this year. Waiting for what? And then a month after, I went and had the shoulder x-rayed. Ivan out there knows exactly what you're talking

56:11 As soon as we get off the phone or off the podcast here, And I was really accepting that. Yeah, me too. The one thing I couldn't get into. There's a tap. is an internal struggle. And that internal struggle is you and your breath, Thinking only of the breath, the posture and the breath. It's being aware of what the dynamic is. for developing your human potential, whether it's yoga or

1:00:43 And then the focus is entirely on the breath Yeah, his yoga. Yeah. it's like the it's like sitting down with michelangelo and talking about art i mean I think he's got some disc issues now, though, doesn't he? what he's, uh, what he's, uh, what he's tried or what he's willing to try, but I would love to see him. of the cartilage i get confused between the difference cartilage and meniscus what is the

1:04:14 It's more subject to inflammation and swelling. It's just one of those things that he gets sore. It's very exciting stuff. And tell me how thin on the wedge are we in terms of this being new? And they're going, well, you're probably going to have to get surgery. But as far as like the functional strength of the shoulder, They're already generating.

1:06:46 all state-of-the-art now and when we're looking at like 10 20 30 years from now i mean you're Fascinated by it. With just the fact I'm having the conversation, You can't get it in America, but in it and people know people that have had issues with it um you can't get it in america but in in mexico i know people that go over there and get it done intravenously and uh you know boss root and you know boss yeah boss root and the way he

1:08:29 statham in here i'd love to you look like you fell out the same trees i know we do right yeah it's And he takes care of himself. there for three hours come back can't have a couple of beers he's still banging on about it Not as healthy as I'd like to be. Is it a booze thing? not they're not well no an english an english crisp is a heavyweight chip um and they work

1:10:39 Enhances each other. And I get myself down to 178. Right. And I found that, and I'm sure you've had the same, things that you need to take quite seriously i can see you're onto this joe i can see you're He just couldn't keep going anymore. So this does make me wonder whether you just hang on. The ACL, and it's such a common injury. graft it is still strong and your patella tendon is a very huge tendon and you can like you can

1:14:30 very exciting yeah it's it's the real deal i mean it's something special it's 30 years i've been And I'd get this pretty significant elbow pain. So I started really researching all the options and what's really going on. And one of the big What's the other one? Well, it's flour, pasta, sugar. Alcohol? I mean, I'm not a big drinker. That's really the thing.

1:16:34 to dance with the devil. with clams. I like the way it tastes. I love a beer. form of caveman chemistry francis maelman you know francis maelman is a big fan of that sort So you're going to do farm to table, the whole deal? I've just got into gin, actually. And he went, essentially for four years And he's one of those guys that he cannot be stagnant.

1:19:41 Hager Gracie or Henzo. That we are going back to local stuff and people. and they gave it back to us without character and to a degree, things like Instagram may have a dark side, It's a completely different experience genesis of my interest in knives with that anthony bourdain thing there's a guy um mamousey fire arts But why is it so interesting?

1:22:25 That's a sexy bit of kit. I don't know. Really? Yeah. I'm into a out of Damascus steel. Oh, man, really? Yeah. with a steel club? In the UK, every now and then they stumble across a body that's 500 years old. But they had become deformed through the development of the muscle which in some way They had crossbows back then and we had the longbow. two of his fingers. The two fingers

1:25:32 the way the mongols did it the mongols they had these incredibly powerful recurve bows it would Yeah. He got me onto this. and then pull it back that way and then release. There was a New York Times article about how many people died during Genghis Khan's reign, The conservative estimate is somewhere around 30. I don't know how many people there were.

1:28:11 bodies, just rotting human bodies. They had abandoned the roads because they couldn't get They're the other whether it's the Vietnamese or the German the Nazis the Japanese like whatever it is Just conquering. And they had to establish that. No, but I do remember some of that. I don't know. And we're in business at Onnit together. unit in the uk called the gurkhas that come from nepal that's been in tradition for a couple hundred

1:31:14 I mean, doesn't that, that's like a pretty rigid requirement. It's something you're dealing with on a daily basis as opposed to the way we live. come back to the mongols so what was his desire for gain his desire for gain with the more people appreciate and respect although they can no longer bear witness, or they did bear witness for a second. They're threatening in some way that somehow they can diminish your idea of who you are.

1:33:59 If you could go back, I mean, I've often thought about this as technology evolves. burial sites for thousands of years yeah right stonehenge is about five and a half thousand and the roads and whatnot and i'm a bit of a anorak for that. Do you know what the expression anorak is? So you go on Google Earth, You can see an established burial site, which is seen as a prehistorical burial site, Bronze Age or whatever it is.

1:36:50 And you go 200 yards that direction, 200 yards that. Well, the thing is, with lots of gold in it. And then you see things like that horse the romans right that was a couple of thousand years ago and the romans been kicking around the Yeah. There's lots of that that goes on around those times. aren't going through any other conduit and i suppose it's what it is. It's the mystery. It's the mythology of all of this.

1:40:24 I started doing it i started Is that going to be the thing that allows you and I to age more gracefully and without so much pain? stem cells in comparison to the past it's like it's really exciting emerging time but similar thousands and thousands of years old, and they don't know the origins. and they've been told and passed down It's taken over them.

1:43:12 that, oh, this is a body or this is a burial area. This is a pathway that was probably irrigation. What are you saying? I'm a big fan of him. Fuck yeah, I'm going to go see it. Do you want to stick your head back in here? So I believe that is May the 12th, right? When you decide, and I'll just leave you with this, You don't want to spend three years on a movie and no one hear about it.

1:45:32 and I went from that and then I did Sherlock Holmes. And then Man From U.N.C. then man from uncle which is like a spy thing and they jumped into spy genre so and you go all right okay i can go from this genre to that genre and that's exciting and i've it's been a great pleasure we'll see you soon