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Joe Rogan Experience #957 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 streaming here we got 6 000 people on this motherfucker 3 000 3 700 really see that's 7,800. Years of trying to keep people from choking me. Oh. Because jujitsu, you've got to fucking. Yeah. So they have little tiny claws. Cute little fella. Well, look at the claws on those things. teeth because i just have a Oh, see? Those vampire deer. A deer? Folks, this is very distracting.

4:04 He can see anything. Conspiracy theory. With the same age. With still excellent though. I gotta tell you, this motherfucker can see shit. He can see anything. For sure. what's the big deal you know don't know i't know, dude. So never before seen deer spotted eating human bones. But we've showed videos before of deer eating birds. Really? It's a button buck.

5:57 They don't have like the most. Look at the speed. Look at him. capture these particular birds. You don't see that every day. They thought that, you know, those are just herbivores. Eddie Bravo believes a lot of conspiracies, but he doesn't believe that. there in the north country of australia yeah and you guys took over the under armor hunt page and they're little teases.

8:21 Yeah. Yeah, but it only takes one. Yeah. where we'd go and take baths and uh or just kind of cool down And then the next night, Adam went down there to the creek and it was only about maybe 15, 20 feet across, just small, just very shallow. Yeah. 10 to, I think, Adam and his guys one time, his camera guy, walked 18 miles one day. the grass is in some places eight feet tall.

12:51 This is like people say, why would you go? october november because you don't want to get stuck in the with the wet season hit because asian water buffaloes that it seems like there's a c in there somewhere asiatic or something i of the... when he's coming in right there right above that jamie right uh right now the one with the far left if hunters don't go up there and kill them they they actually hire people to go up there and kill

16:15 So they ruin water sources for the native animals as well? with josh zepps didn't we but they um they brought in all these animals with no game plan. there's just not enough hunters because in all of australia they say there's as many people as and shortly thereafter then they started bringing in all these animals the idea was that they were Something like that, yeah.

18:55 not as many stags as fallow deer but um all these species just there's no measure for control really But people in Australia hunt cats like they hunt them the way He's like, yeah. A bounty on a kitty cat. And I had this one male cat and he was just a murderer. That was awesome. heard it or who told me but that oh maybe it was one of my cop friends but anyway if a if a like an

22:20 Yeah. Man. You're living with a hoarder. That's what we need to, the whole time, thin layer of merino actually keeps it cool because you're sweating it and it regulates heat really well. weather so yeah it didn't you know when you're laying in a sleeping bag that's only rated to 40 once i said it i'm like are they they? So don't quote me on that. and that the key for stalking animals is always staying in the shade if if you stay in the shade

26:03 we weren't moving. I'm like, don't move. And he was crouched down on his knees. Yeah, they're smart. Like you had brought two bow setups. You brought one for deer. So you need something that hits hard. I'm shooting really well. or just be gone i mean just like be 10 away. So they would move out of the way before the arrow got to them. So your limbs are just like that.

29:26 cause they're high, strong and they were on me. So what would the, the, the time where I decided, just tuned in they're hunted every day. Wow. Yeah. Did you go to the trocar? so you're around Sydney, which is where people are. There's there's those animals are hunted Yeah. Yeah, a lot of it is, yep. get to them it has to be on like the underside of a rock so where we went we filmed under there

33:27 But when we went back to my house, we had dinner and we sat around talking. No, I don't know. the older they are. I think you just threw that out there. Yeah. I'm sure somebody knows. I mean, right, that studies that? I'm sure there's probably a few people. But it seems like when you think about the actual numbers of how much land you're talking about,

35:20 other he goes nope yeah no written language yeah they they have different expressions for You're literally watching history dissolve right in front of you. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's just so fascinating thinking about that, that particular continent listen, Australia is way worse. And it's like a prison. If I understand it right, it's like a prison. They're really nice. And again, there's not that many of them. So it's expensive though. Yeah.

38:09 Right. They cost so much more money. Yeah, because they have to ship them over there. A ute? And is this what Adam was driving around in? was weird when i was there is how many people have snorkels on their trucks yeah yeah that one right Well, you knew the name of it. I mean, how many FJ Land Cruisers do you see? was saying when he drives from Sydney to Darwin you know we took a four and a half hour plane

40:58 There was a period in American cars from like the 1970s till, I think till probably like the late 90s or 2000 they finally Well, it's a good move. my my goal is to sort of use you because people because i want to i want to i want hunting to be convince them how awesome it was. It wasn't awesome for them. So it was like, but you want to share something that impacts you so much with other people who appreciate it.

43:34 But I also think the difficulty factor is what turns people off. had a 90 pound bow which i definitely shouldn't have been pulling back my shoulder was fucking ways to channel that addiction elmer fudd like you know you go out there or they see some hunting scene in a movie where there's a Yeah. And then you have to be a good shot on top of all that.

46:32 and then you get it and you're not ready. the scary thing is not really, But the real terrifying stuff is the buildup, the lead up. And supposedly, we're supposed to be pretty good hunters. getting because i get i mean i i went to an archery shop up there benson's archery in uh sydney I didn't even eat meat and all these different stories, all these different

49:50 And so she was like, do you know what movie that is? We don't think of wild animals. They know where it comes from. And before I hunted with Rinella, that was my thought. Yeah. I never shot. It's on video. Yeah. And like that was extremely appealing to me yeah it's a i think steve vernella has done a great job I mean, that last day we were up in the mountains there after I had killed my deer,

54:54 Skewered it on green wood. in the woods we harvested him which is aka killed him and then ate him and that's that circle of But I remember eating that meat that we ate when I was in Montana with Ranella, the first hunt, But there's no connection there. There's a primal, genetic sort of ancestral thing that's happening when you hunt. you're becoming a part of this crazy cycle of nature.

58:17 make sure that Department of Fish and Game is well-staffed with biologists, with people that are monitoring these animals. Because guess what? But we're still, the numbers still flourish because we're not, hunters't just oh let's go kill wipe them all out i mean we're it's managed it's fishing game is managed This one chick, she posted something mean when I posted a picture of us and elk that I was cooking.

1:00:05 We're not animal haters this is not this and it's it's hard for people to understand that someone could love fawns were out in the field and I still appreciate their beauty and, you know, their frolicking about or whatever you want to call it. animals we want to take out and so he was he was just a run down old buck that's what i took You know, if you're doing it right.

1:03:06 Yeah. We're all dying. The fact that he died, I shot him, and he was dead within seconds is guaranteed, and a really old buck this buck's teeth were flattened back so he's just when you can't eat they got to It's life in the wild is, I mean, unless you're out there and you witness things like that, you just live in, it's not real. Hey, I got the new iPhone.

1:05:35 Animals. Yeah, and then it if you die, no one's gonna know now you fall and break your neck and die right there And, I mean, we talked about the difficulty. I'm not going to get it done. I don't know. It's just that, that so difficult and being successful, as I've said this before, has made me who I am. You wouldn't even feel it. Well, you know, we came close to them, but we could not get a shot.

1:08:41 Like, why is he lifting weights and doing all this shit for hunting? And then I see your videos online. i think it's more than that like for elk hunting with archery it it's about it's about 10 success And forget about even the fact that you're pursuing these animals to hunt them and eat them. But there's a very strange connection that you get when you're out there in

1:11:25 I like going to the movies. spectrum of He'd have Jameson was his cameraman's name would go with him. and these bucks were just going at it, just fighting, pushing each other around. And I not talking about what we killed but just what we saw and experienced yeah you know and it's you When I was checking my luggage in, I said, hunting. yeah you can i said it's just like i said it's not even like a firearm weapon type thing.

1:15:22 Yeah. Yeah. with it i said yeah i said i've listened i've been everywhere it's never an issue trust me i'm not point of view. It takes a while for them to understand your point of view. It takes a while like you talking to someone about hunting yeah like if you came over here it's almost like i care they're an invasive species no they live there you're gonna hear you're gonna hear what

1:18:21 They're going to get mad at you for sure, but they would get mad anyway. they they just never heard anybody talk about it yeah and this is a it's a weird part of our life and that's why i'm like no i'm hunting buffalo i want that lady to be exposed important i just want that just want that shown right you know shared right but there's definitely animals that die when they're when their salad's being made you know i mean so you know so it's

1:22:03 If you eat grain, you're contributing to, first of all, what do you Yeah. I just keep going back to this recent trip just because I think about it. Yeah. green tree why oh i don't know the bow hunting part i think it was too confusing yeah maybe i But he is sensitive, too. And he was so upset. it's like, the circle of life better yeah i don't know well you're definitely more accustomed to being around

1:24:52 It's easy. trying the lifestyle and eating that way. For the longest time, she was just trying to just go straight vegan. different but i don't think there's anything wrong with going out and killing animals and It's very interesting. Some people do it. Somebody probably knows. Yeah, that's true. he might hunt he might i don't think he does that uh he hunts liberals but he um one of the things

1:28:11 I mean, I haven't experienced that, but I know they must be out there. very well-spoken, who is also an advocate for conservation, loves wildlife. they know, just how much they know about the environment, about where they're hunting, Where, from what I've read, at least, obviously, Yeah. It was a bill to sell off public land that was pulled back because of the activism of

1:31:19 have to sell this public land exactly um because it's a resource and and the states have to the states have to balance how they can. overwhelmed with hey are you looking out for us are you doing the right thing by us Yeah, I had mixed feelings on that because the yelling and stuff doesn't. And I don't know. I just made that up. I go, listen, you're the first politician I've ever met.

1:34:00 personable. time out to talk about it you know instead of instead of just, I'm not sure why he did, but I appreciated the fact that he did. you know was all set aside by teddy roosevelt and all those people that had such great insight whatever this is a garbage dump anyway right so it makes it easier so they and very well read on it, sportsmen? Probably. Is there another word? Outdoors people? Sports people? You can't say

1:36:53 That too. peanut butter jelly is racist this is how deep it gets because white people eat peanut butter and North Koreans maybe maybe the most evil Yeah, there's a lot of folks out there that are just looking for something to get ticked off at. you have to struggle through stuff and how it's hard today because you know you're doing well And then you have that good feeling.

1:39:18 with success. walk hills. I'm like, what am I doing? How often are you running? Several days a week. Really? that thing but i can make it all the way up to the top now i don't have to stop yeah really yeah i But man, kickboxing, it really affected it. And so when I was, I was doing rounds on the bag the other day, I was like, Jesus, I got Like I've got like an extra gear here.

1:42:11 jujitsu very much. When I do jujitsu a lot, I fucking, the weight just flies off. I can eat Yeah. Zero running. think is this unattainable record that's insane he'll break it or someone like somebody oh somebody No, that's high. maybe or Wired. Somebody I don't know why you'd be able to run faster necessarily there, but you can. That's it. Get on the ball.

1:44:52 Awesome. Beautiful. Well, it was awesome when you took over the UA Hunt page on Instagram. Are we waiting for a response? And when Adam took it over, when we were on that Australia hunt, it went up like, they went from, what was it? street if there was a way to stream like more often like you had like very specific moments It's going to get really crazy. Live. But what's

1:47:02 And that's what people like Bullshit. Listen. We got off the plane together in L.A. here. I mean, people are primed for it right now. You got me running. I think the millions and millions of people that have listened to you guys, it's changed perception. will do appearances and we have a line that goes for hours, you know, young girls waiting for her

1:50:17 In a day. Like when you took Scott Eastwood, you went to that place down in Riverside? Riverside Archery. Is that what it was? There's a few great places like And really understand, I mean, even if someone never wants to hunt, just understand the meditative Or The Witchcraft of Archery. Jamie, come on. Nope. Wow. Archery. It's not looking good. The witchcraft of archers something like that hmm all right interesting okay just can we edit this part out no the sorcery of archery

1:53:09 to go shoot my 300 winchester magnum up at the rock pit i mean this thing was so loud i used to Why? Some of the rap you're listening to. No, the rap or what some of the rap you listened to no the rap is good That's a funny thing, man, with white people. Oh. It's a good one. Yeah, the Kendrick, yeah. That's kind of what I listen to. I think there are.

1:55:38 certain styles and this was like something i had never i've listened to a lot i was in brazil Yeah. Yeah. Iggy Azalea is the. White privilege. Yeah. They're over on the left, like, what are you doing How is Sydney so traffic-filled? I mean, how many people live in Sydney? Five side. Yeah. Simple fix. Yeah. Simple fix. How is Sydney so traffic filled? I

1:57:42 There's only like a few big cities. Sydney's really awesome. This sucks. If you don't make it through one traffic light cycle, you're what the hell is going on wait this is bullshit yeah well you get Yeah. Jamie's not buying it either. See? It's a good book. Speaking of a whole different, I don't know what you just said, but I'll be in my cubicle tomorrow.

2:00:02 You're my manager. Like people don't have the time. yeah yeah yeah that's you know it it takes time i mean it's just even just the dedication to Yeah. my 245 feet per second bow was slow right that'd be super fast for a traditional bow oh yeah so i people get distracted i've never hunted a dude with a boner i'm glad i'm glad to hear that i But deer, one time a year, everything starts popping.

2:03:05 baby in the spring and then good but it's bizarre yeah there's actually some bucks that were they When you hear elk screaming, from the Lord of the Rings. Well, we're definitely going to film some stuff there. Oh, yeah. I can't wait. I think it's very inspiring to people. Young Jamie's on the ball. I'm going to show Cam, too.