Joe Rogan Experience #981 — Josh Barnett Transcript

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0:00 As soon as we go live, five seconds. I'm sitting here wearing, you know, black metal T-shirts and listening to crazy-ass music. That's gangster. I was in downtown for a while, and then now I live in Hollywood. the way you see that schizophrenic crackhead he's gonna fuck your shit up you know it's like ever like hey come to la you might get fucked or you might not please roll the dice let's see how

2:21 Yeah, people who think that their downtown is fucked up, you don't even know what fucked up is. and there was like some, amount of time you're locked in stay in there yeah I guess whatever shit so like And then they get into these, you know, let's say drugs come into play or other things. There's losers of the system. If you're like 10. You know, I think I'd like to make him my sidekick.

5:01 What's the name of this video? It's like a little square radius of streets that encapsulate this area. No way to negotiate it. But he's got pegs on the front of his bike. Is that not impressive? You know, I do know how to ride a bicycle. you're falling down he's using it to camera edit too to solve either, right? I think it... over. 180 at 18 years old, just fighting.

8:53 You know what it's like? And they're like, okay, okay. you know, there's always these little breaks Break dancers. Or you could just have some dude I've never seen anything like it. this stuff and build up all these wind sprints. I'm going to completely myself out right now. So you would get, like, pretty close to the goal. I think what you've got to do is if somebody does foul you,

12:09 Yeah, that guy's for a year. I don't know about that. No, it's called flopping. All right. That is hilarious. Oh, I'm so hurt. Okay, that guy might have blown his knee out. That guy. It's almost as if these guys are so attuned to any touch that once they feel it, they immediately just dive. Oh, that's hilarious. We're pretending to be hurt all the time. This is hilarious

14:57 Like that guy's just falling. That shit is so ridiculous. Honestly, a couple of these were guys doing goofy stuff and then laughing about it as Now that guy taking a dive made sense because he saw the other dude rolling. You're doing that thing. loves soccer, and I love Ian, and he's trying to get We don't want to get so confused that we think this is like some forgotten language.

17:10 Those guys are awesome athletes. Jose? Nope. That was him doing the ball flip. Oh, yeah. They're just sticking around. practicing and playing he's like like a real professional soccer player you're looking at Well, there's also the not good enough. But at one point uh they my Am I wrong in thinking that there's like a build that would excel at football?

20:12 Super fast footwork. Just being very quick. You know, I don't really that's not a good idea. I don't know. when I'm going to University of Washington football camp or when I'm playing against nationally ranked teams like O'Day, this is different. that enter the nfl today that just the sheer size and speed that these guys have and it's only so I like rugby league way better than rugby union because union's got all the scrumming

22:49 What if you go more than seven? And so, you know, they're hitting. American football you skirmish again well you know It's pretty fascinating, man. Was that kind of part of the problem? was apparently just massive and i mean i would have of Washington. He was, and I can't There is. in American football as you're doing here in rugby hey, look, we're going to no longer do American football.

26:26 Yeah, I do. And therefore, the potential prosperity of it would drive the interest for people to try and apply their wares. the privilege of being at that level at, successful career, but it's very rare. Is it just a life thing? I don't remember, but it's on the internet. Well, and we could honestly look, Maybe he's lost a little bit of a step. at where they used to be

29:54 So maybe he's just not as motivated to push in the same ways that he was, Only the person that's competing knows. and youngest ever ufc heavyweight champion that's right i was until that that son of a I don't I'm not trying to prove it to myself anymore, you know, but that fire that wants to fight still exists. and maybe a few other in professional wrestling uh but uh fighting is

33:21 Like 17 years or 15 years, something like that. that and I'm like, well, I'm going to put this in my back pocket And it worked. they were all very successful when they were competitors. There was all these heavyweights and all these dudes. The whole bunch of them would be like, So why even bring it up? you know, I trained for it. And then I went, it's like, what a cheater.

35:53 I was like 250 and Dean was like 230. You know, I used my game on him. but in particular, leg locks. what teachings that he lent in over there sort of spread. can come from it and that's you know one of the great things well that's one of the things that you know, I understood. come from like sakuraba and Maeda and Fujiwara. which is real fighting,

39:02 I dare. So people operate on this premise that it's fake, so whatever. him you're like that guy's not tough you're like no actually he was recruited by the fucking miami money and these wrestlers would just run them into the ground and then all right whoever's left Because it used to be at one point in time, Like these guys, pro wrestling matches, which is amazing

41:52 Yeah, that's nuts. Yes. What a wasted opportunity. I mean, the guy had a neck that was so fucking strong, he literally could hang himself. A 20-inch neck on a 165-pound dude. What? And then you go, paid ad. Yeah, you're running that for fun the other girl shot the guy right yeah and killed him pedia oh the encyclopedia was thick enough to Not even a real, like a personal defense round or whatever.

44:57 And then she gave him the book with no Kevlar and bam! Dude I wrote about forest rangers infiltrating bear groups. i would classify under this under the this this concept i have that i've been working with called which I would argue that there's a lot of ideologies around nowadays that are just as cult-like as Scientology or Heaven's Gate, stuff like that.

47:15 I think it's from Ernest Becker. drink that. Please, you know, do just give in to the influence of the hive. So what's at stake increases the importance or the of the game itself. panacea for death. Because like Nietzsche will talk about the concept of true world values. the concept of having meaning for their difficulty, So if nothing matters, then you're not able to operate anymore.

50:55 Well, see, it's up to you to assign your values as to what you're doing anyways and why you're doing it. get ostracized for what because of what just uh for for one it was being bigger and for all the Are you kidding me? you fuck with big brother because it's fun and eventually he gets mad he finds you and he beats And so, you know, it'd be like nowadays someone could walk in here and be like, fuck you, you suck.

52:56 Does that ever happen with you? to get, So eventually I'm like, he just kept going, kept tapping. It's just like it's just like man fuck you dude i'm standing here with because i'm dismissing him you know and so eventually i was like just you know let's go let's walk away now that gets his fucking and grabs a hold this guy's wrist and pulls his hand out she's like don't you don't want to do that and then he looks at her and he looks at me and i'm just smiling and he

55:28 Or I've had some people go, oh, yeah, of course no one's going to fight you. And those guys would be way less likely And they're like, You're wearing the fucking T-shirt of that guy right there. some a lot of this shit comes from people putting themselves into situations where they have up the It got to a point where they weren't willing to go any further and they realized they fucked up and then to fucking tuck tail and back down.

57:54 but you want to create it because you're an insecure little prick. of course they're operating off of anger and emotion fight to a lot of dickheads but you know when you sometimes you turn to somebody you go you don't Or my favorite is people nowadays don't really. And it's like, well, I'm going to fine you for this thing. and you're not going to let, you're not going to,

1:00:34 all of us on a social level. It's just that we have managed to take that concept and put it you know, uh, Fuck you. Everything starts to escalate. Yeah. what other people think or how you're going to be perceived by others in a group setting Well, that guy really wasn't what he said he was like his. They have to say more, and you've got to give them a little smack.

1:03:49 She thought she had him. Because he probably fucked 15 different women that day. James Bond, look at my mustache. you don't do it with a clenched fist. Do you think it's good to slap a woman? They want to say it again and get into a really provocative situation National Enquirer? The director isn't here tonight. Thank you. That honestly didn't seem that rude or aggressive.

1:06:24 Are you kidding me? Apparently not. You know, so you can really, like, dig in, like, the stuff is stain resistant yeah it's got that grip on it grippy girls are like what the fuck Like you've crossed so many lines and been so disrespectful and done things that are, you know, an invasion of personal space and respect. But, yeah. Well, you know, it's like

1:08:43 I could do whatever. You got so mad that you can't kick my ass. girl. having this frustration about not being able to get the outcome that they wanted. And having what they would feel is no recourse to get me to come to their terms in their way. And it was just like, how is that even why, why for one, you know, this, this, this girl, uh, I was with her for

1:11:00 And then, no, no, no, you can't leave statement a, because you're basing your arguments on Yes. She went to Berkeley. And, you know, he's coming from a very interesting position because he doesn't even, he as a I don't I don't think that that's correct. has some attachment to maybe what they feel is their existence, that to change that is Like, OK, why do you think people operate?

1:14:43 It's also the idea, I like to think of it, I think a lot of these young people look at it as mom's house, mom and dad's house. There's plenty of money for shelter. And it's like, well, how do you think I got this? smarts and made it happen for myself. you did it on the back. that's the other thing. within a human being, within their lot And the guy that made the widget also has the most responsibility because he had to come up

1:17:42 arguments uh with my ex about she's's like, oh, I think all businesses It is hilarious. to create a co-op situation as it would And we'll just have a little co-op here. And says, Josh Barnett, is this the Josh Barnett farm? This is what I kept meaning to ask before I forget. And that makes her upset. I've seen people say that. a greater percentage of that money now now you come to me and i can be like well i beat mark hunt

1:20:39 and some of this I'd go, well, look, you know, for this, now the potential for me to do that exists as well. well, even if you beat Gina Carano, because of Connor, and then went out and won. But when you lose, what's going to happen is you're going to drop off often. They get in a scuffle at a press conference, and all of a sudden, everybody cares about the result of this fight.

1:23:23 it's a lot of that is and that will definitely do something for you Sure. It doesn't have the same... Isn't that the fight? Once really significant Managers. It would be a great fight. Did you see Cyborg sparring with Clarissa Shields? A girl that's even arguably bigger than her too. That's the thing about boxing in the Conor and Mayweather fight is it's the specialization of a boxer versus the MMA person.

1:26:55 It would make MMA look that much bigger. No, I don't. Yeah, that in there. If you just decided to haul off and kick him, then that's it. You lose all your money. Yeah, that makes sense. and then to spar with him. So everything works out towards a win-win situation for him. Which are very thick, fat gloves. And I think I think they're going to fight 55.

1:29:16 Yeah. Like, you can't get this in your head that you're awesome at something. So you're awesome at People forget all that they went through to acquire such a set of skills to get there in the first place. you take them down once, twice, his plan is for sure and even still damian maya has has learned to create striking that that helps 100. Pretty much.

1:32:05 This isn't a fight about who's a better fighter. you know it's like that yeah yeah yeah catching him in a fucking rolling guillotine yeah yeah He's barely doing this. Randy was merciful, though. Yeah, I would have tried to tear him absolutely limb from limb. You know, chop his leg, whatever, shoot a double, blow through him, get on top, and there and in some way it is i was explaining this i was actually at a philosophical lecture

1:35:17 every, a lot of these arguments always come from some idea of a base motivation from somebody, in the Soviet Union, they felt it would make them look bad. you know, you create these micro group ideologies and you distill and distill and distill and you You know, the idea of going, and looking at all this stuff We've already had a relationship. you know these rocks you know these plants you understand the the pluses and minuses of this

1:39:22 And so even just having your little cabin with your little fence, as Peterson and other people have described, Yes. Rogan and his podcast, which I do, I can see that, well, Joe was able to create this podcast. Why? And so people, if I had to just walk away from everything, like my muscle cars and all that stuff. that you're my mode of transportation.

1:42:14 Yeah, and he's got a dope Burt Reynolds fucking smoking the bandit Trans Am. Yeah, they do build them off the new Camaro That's a car only for... So there's two. Of course they could. So if I had to give all this shit up. Yeah, it's a Burt Reynolds edition. But it's not going to be crazy. what they end up doing is transferring that power to external sources and when you start working off

1:44:48 Yeah. Sure. you know, is it, uh, shoulda or coulda, you know, of course there, there, there is an element of of our capitalist economy, and how the issues within it now, totally, I get it. No, Without some sort of violent revolution, which doesn't, not probably in your best interest with the way technology and military and all that stuff. And it's like, what the fuck do you think the Soviets were doing?

1:47:56 I don't want to give it to the government. And Saudi Arabia, you're talking theocracy. And when you're making trillions of dollars by sucking oil out of the ground. to get those hedge fund dudes you're always going to get those guys who have those gigantic estates I think that's a real scam. and she gets a different job personal trainer stuff is and then over that. And if people are willing to pay it

1:50:20 person you teach five people but then you charge Of course, because they would like it to be, and go around in circles. Well, the question is what's the alternative? A lot of people then want to find somebody who is the reason for their downfall yeah this thing is what's keeping kinds of things, you have to say, well, okay, well, what would I have done differently? And

1:53:09 like nah i thought my ex was the greatest woman i'd ever met and she absolutely possessed qualities be it their business, elements well okay when it comes to get a point to like what's the for most people like what's the where the difficulty lies, But ultimately, everything's stemming from you anyways. got a dent in it and it's like oh did i really have the worst day ever or did i just have an

1:56:13 one honestly, eventually it'll be, it'll be a small element, but it, but it has a lot of of fighting and success within fighting that is a bond, that is a similarity amongst the rest of them and even amongst me but beyond that that changes from there on out so um you know just recently i've been But through that time, it would keep coming back. Put it to bed.

1:58:47 That's right. He's fighting locally here in CXF. I would spar with him. Thank God. He was, he's very agile on his feet. and also good at that head and arm position, which Alexei likes, And he went and knocked his guy out in 22 seconds. They're already accomplished. With them, it under their belt. They're already accomplished. guys, putting our heads together and helping Travis be the best he can be as a fighter.

2:02:13 over here or it's like uh you know this this this training session was super fucking hard that's always the thing. It's like whether I could teach someone to throw a kick this way or kick about writing in terms of philosophy i think think about maybe doing speaking engagements, stuff like that. creating comforts and, and familiarity to where things get to a point where you're not thinking

2:05:27 You didn't watch it? Kevin Lee took Kiesa's back, which is Kiesa's thing, right? No one does that. even jiu-jitsu athletes. Yeah, it doesn't hurt you is my point for people who don't understand what we're advocating. for sure. And that's the thing, he saw, Sure. And look at this. Well, I understand that, but people don't want to accept any blame. I see his hands kind of up in the air here.

2:08:25 not smart and tyron woodley had the best commentary on this honestly he was on that uh ufc panel show But he took a beating before that. from behind with his back. and they've got their arms up What else is he going to do? unless he's just completely losing his shit Yeah. Somehow or another Brock Lesnar survives, takes Shane down the second round, submits him quick.

2:10:40 and he's not moving enough, and maybe some people of not letting guys you, but he stopped the fight based on a, but he let it get to 9. It's just no good. But here's the thing, you know, I'm interested. It's more like a battlecade. I love John Peretti's commentary. found Andrei Arlovsky. black belt get submitted. Yes. And his tights got torn. Yeah.

2:13:52 That's when I quit. That was, you know what? Back in the fucking day, man. How much does Travis have now? Yeah. A couple of Takatas in there. Yeah, well, when you look back at your initial fights in MMA, like in Super Brawl, and then entering into the UFC, And then UFC 30 was on his leg, and Pedro leg-kicks before after your second fight uh after our second fight oh wow yeah we were down there me and my ex

2:16:56 And so, yeah, we trained with Master Leitao for a while, I go, who gives a shit, man? Because I saw the window of opportunity to get in there. Yeah. at this gym in vegas and miracle came out so we're rolling around and training together and having a Mirko's right hook since, you know, we're talking His hand is still like this, and he looks at me, That's what I was getting hit with,

2:19:40 Yeah, well, he broke Bob Sapp's eyeball in a K-1 fight. kick, but if you read the high I think there was only one kick, too. merco's just staring at him like a fucking evil predator. Fuck. Yeah, I especially do because I was watching that fight because I was going to go fight Noguera after that. He goes down and gets right back up. Dude. Mark Hunt actually won that one.

2:22:37 why when he got towards the end of his career he was just getting knocked out left and right People in the UFC never really saw, they didn't see this guy. of it was the heavyweight division. It was a huge I just wish they could have maintained. fan of the UFC, but they liked the way that Pride did it. chandler you know michael venom page now rory's over there i mean there's world-class talent there

2:24:53 and you see him getting KO'd again, As was I. Everybody else says Fedor. What's the correct pronunciation? totally different noises that you have oh yeah I haven't done the research. Yeah. He also took the merchants, And if the dad died, Whoa. What the fuck's his name who wrote Dracula? which is like a comedy Have you seen that show? They both fought on that night and cornered them.

2:29:55 a lot anymore oh we're not we're not okay we're just saying that that you know it's just like I hate to say it, but Fox really dropped the ball big time on it. And we're all doing our stuff. But I'm going to do an on-location interview be on vacation, but I'm going to do a on location interview with this Bangor. There's no one. Oh, we don't need that.

2:32:16 Who is this person There was one guy that was like, anything and uh and own up to any like fuck-ups and so it wasn't like i was asking for much from And then I watch the video of it and it's like silence. doing it for money right now we're just doing it to to to establish. And this is already going fucking sour. It's like they have these things like here.

2:34:26 It's that simple. making records. You're talking about editing kind of product I wanted. You just need an account with like Libsyn or one of these podcast hosts. thought that they were doing something and then now they've completely changed their tune they've I mean, they don't understand what happened. Yeah. All they did was host it. Of course not.

2:37:02 I want to have whatever I want on this podcast. I want to talk about anything. No problem. I go, no, no. I want to have whatever I want on this pod. Nazi occult division. to talk about that i didn't because i go i'm gonna bring this guy on to talk about this stuff and You don't need them. They control the advertising. It took them weeks to put. Just do it.

2:39:12 That's all I'm saying to you. Yeah, I like Crowder. Milo? Well, he definitely dressed as a trans person for a while was trying to like push the five o'clock shadow right so the idea is like it's a sincerity of it is almost what that comes down There's something very odd about these arbitrary lines where we decide we had a guy that we Like, what the fuck?

2:42:05 he's an interesting one because i like how hardcore and how like straight to the point he you know theologically based arguments or you know if you're going to i mean that's really Like, well, you're just as fascist as this other guy. Yeah, people get weird with their arguments, And because you are supported by all these other people around you. time. You're just not paying attention.

2:44:26 When I have super righties on, then they're like, oh, your show's like Fox News. and then I'd have to go find some gnarly alt-right garbage and have to go there doesn't change from place to place. well, it's like trying to to navigate flat earth shit and stuff like that and go come on i i hear it If you make more than $34,000 a year, you are in the top 1% of the world.

2:47:33 for tribalism and the fear of the thing that is the unknown being maybe too much of a risk. first time you know uh one group sees someone that looks completely different from them they're like element but we have the ability to overcome that to be greater than that to be better than that to the group you get, man. uh we have to my understanding what my management's saying is that usada to

2:50:47 So, cause there's no reason why a guy your size would even bother to have such a negligible So how long have they had you suspended till? with. with a completely brand new bottle and batch that matches the one that i still haven't acted on that And Instagram. I mean, War Machine. Did I say that? I didn't Chronicles. War Machine? Coming soon. I mean, War Machine.

2:52:34 Called me War Machine. War Machine