Joe Rogan Experience #10029 — Cat Zingano Transcript

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0:00 Here we go. Four, three, two, one. Boom. And we're live, Kat. How are you? That's your next fight? Let's see, after I fought Misha, I blew my my knee and then the world exploded and so I had I think 18 months alternative medicine. It's like original medicine. I, I appreciate looking at things like that way So, you know, within all of that, I've just, you know, had medical problems and things that like I'm constantly working on and I feel really good.

3:02 that's what happens when you do that yeah for people who don't know tbi is traumatic brain injury just in case if someone is listening to ever gonna fight again she don't need to yeah she really doesn't need to I don't think she's ever going to fight again. She doesn't need to. Yeah. She really doesn't need to. I don't think she wants to. And then it was also, look, the sport has evolved so rapidly

4:39 I do, like, I mean, I'm saying the same thing as the fight's going, right? silence in there and then when I was able to come back they made me re-earn my title shot just twisted it walking down the street too so I I don't know. She just vaguely remembers some injury. I mean, she changed her camp. I think with the time off with Raquel, I wasn't sure how it was going to go.

7:02 Oh, yeah. knees and there's elbows there that those are the most destructive things i could possibly do to But you are definitely a dangerous striker. of that. So a few things. One with the head injury, Colorado is amazing for training, right? It's just like, I spent so much time and so much money, like figuring out what the hell was wrong with me that, you know, I ended up at the Mayo Clinic spending weeks at a time going to all their like specialized different doctors and situations like that for them to tell me, like, you know, if you want to heal, you want to give give yourself the best opportunity to heal you're probably not going to do it up at altitude like we would prefer seeing

10:41 No. I wish I had written down all the gyms I went to and showed up at anonymously too. Because I didn't want them to like, I wanted to kind of catch them with their pants down. Like, just let me cry. They had an awesome deal set up for me to go, like helping me with my kid, I mean, sweaty all the time, like right here. no joke um so uh then i looked west you know um i know ed suarez out here he's my manager and i had

13:12 Okay, I was going to Kings, Black House, and I was still trying to pick jiu-jitsu. i'm super excited because i just started training at atos and i have so much respect for andre and The rest of the days they were whooping my ass, but it was good, you know? maybe other people had that experience but like for me I need to see it for myself like if I go

15:38 Kind of. right and you know she was looking at the clock and backing up and all this and I was just like there's, um, doing different things, i mean one thing with the with that treatment center that i went to is like um doing different things like dealing with your psychology dealing with like going in there she would just go to the bathroom all over and every day this man takes care of his

18:16 There's millions of dollars poured into these people and they're not ready to let them go yet. And these I was put on at the mayo clinic and i felt Like, there's nothing, like, you know, but who is it it pennington goes toe-to-toe and round I feel like shit. you're, you're in this weird position where you never know when you're going to fire to who

21:21 maintenance to be done at all times with that. I know. got it no pissed off like want to kill you no nothing you know and so not scared but not happy no and all I want to do is kill, she, um no because not a lot of time there isn't you know and and they're looking i'm like i need the and I could, like, this is where the flat came in, but to me it was, like, fucked up to hear.

25:09 colorado different but in the right ways you know and it was like i just wanted to fight you were in Mark Gordon. done how crazy is that how fucking hard does Amanda Nunes hit it's nuts she does it like she The fuck? It's because somebody explained that shit you know like me and Tim Kennedy sitting there eating like watermelon and stuff after weigh-ins and I look

28:34 Like when you jump, They didn't. Because that was, I mean, look, it's just a fight. I mean, that was just fucking intense. But like, I need to know. you know, I don't know if that would have been another 30 minutes or another two hours And it's your practicality and it's your survival. You need to know. So, you go down to San Diego. He's the last guy to request attention.

32:16 I've gone and trained there before and it's been good. you can drive 20 minutes and be somewhere no one's ever stood before I'm into like ethnic food. It's so good. I love vegetables. Yeah. Did you think about Five Star? I went to... such it's it's a buddhist culture people are so happy i mean that you have your shit there just need to work on i mean like in my in my life in general and i'm doing it and i'm happy to be doing

35:35 because I want to be in like that element. That's why I was constantly evolving every fight. And that's when I go and I throw her with the, like front headlock suplex, I don't know it's something's something's been missing and i'm partially wondering if it's that you know so like another thing for me to have put time in you know? um when i was at my best no but it's something that I'm working on. I know I have the hangups that I have.

38:06 when when you're having a shit day definitely not the worst it's crazy it's crazy because it's such My husband did my social media. He's like, just fucking know and hear. I'm like, you know, I didn't mean to say that to say that or you know that's not how i meant it or whatever Like, there's no haters that are like, Yeah, because you wouldn't get that from someone who was a fan or someone.

41:12 life just angry and depressed and sad and failing at everything they do but they still have a phone Because life has fucked them in the ass. around them they feel bad everything's wrong and but they still get to talk they still get to talk and you're going to have these failures It got me good a couple of times. You just can't handle the truth. It seems like there's like a trend.

43:34 this country behaves. It's like so uh it's again like you get in there and i mean it's scary to go again, like you get in there, and I mean, it's scary to go. hurts and seeing the congruencies and like how all of that is happening or not happening. Some of the shit they see should be upsetting. see them, it would, it would stop my heart for a second. And that's like shit on your adrenal

46:42 this one one of the things you've been excited about um like the equal scope it's like it's a um same thing it's kind of like a tens they would do stuff like that, but that wasn't working on my head. It was working on injuries pulses into your head and i mean you don't feel anything it's almost like you can hear what it So I am driving a lot every day to go to do this.

48:52 But, yeah, for the last, it was August, I believe, is when I was like really, really getting into it and going twice a day. Jesus. That does not leave a lot of free time for Kat Zingano. hell yeah let's take that but like can you guys at least help me get this shit figured out first please you know and they're like sure um so duncan french he's at the the he's at he so he went to college and was at or no he was at

51:02 I mean, spending money out of my pocket trying to figure and it's like there's very there's like how could they dispute that that's where it came from though I mean, by like literally you, anybody who understands how brain injuries work know that there's there's a considerable amount any kind of mental anything like any you talk about mental illness you talk about head injuries

53:50 Yeah. Like I said, like it was comical. and they explain it and they look up all right everybody ready ready one two three go and we go do it or i could go do it but if they're like all right and then they explain some philosophy what if you can't fix me and now i know all the shit that's wrong with me like that's that sucks These veterans get to go back to combat or whatever it is their job is.

56:55 coming in asking about this, with the thyroid stuff, with the endocrine stuff is like getting your damage to your mean, we're just going to have, you know, bigger side effects to our brains being dehydrated with that now um the damage that Now, when you were saying motor skills, like what was wrong? reading patterns of people anymore like if someone leans this way a little bit i'm like oh okay i

1:00:11 I'm making them step back or I can flash fire in their face and, and jump on them at their No, it was just hit them first. i'm like any minute now any minute now i'm gonna i'm gonna catch the pattern i'm gonna catch the I was like, yeah, it was really scary. of it was and then and then i'm also sleeping better were you skeptical before like during like

1:02:22 i'm that guy again right you know and so going into this and then watching it work and then seeing all the other He was doing something that was making it so it wasn't working for him? incapable of like being in, you But it's for me, it's that's a two hour drive. Personalized repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation, so they can fix this say they fix it and

1:05:23 that even juliana like she kind of open hand bitch slapped me a little bit from the sides. Other people than the people that are really close to you in tune anymore, that things are off. know i mean and they're passing their mris right you know what i mean like they're passing their mris because what two years off because I went and I fought the conservative,

1:08:25 better and like you don't understand the depression you don't understand like and there's an identity And I've been real vocal about it. Like you're crazy. You don't even know what kind of damage. while she was flatlined. and fought Amanda She's getting close to you because she wants to clinch up with you and throw you and take All these agents and Hollywood people and all these people that just have no idea what business they're in.

1:11:56 they get knocked out like that a long time yeah well and i mean in especially some sort of like Still, but the trick with it is that it is something you need to go to and you need to go to twice a day and have that like schedule of it and that routine of it but us as fighters learning and like enjoying it. And, um, I don't know, like getting through everything that I'm getting through

1:13:52 Yeah, and the purpose. myself that, um, I get to show myself every single day that like no one could have ever told me, I feel flat. that that leads me to come to San Diego San Diego is is a new chapter in my life that I get to name I just want to walk away from all of this content and happy with how I did. the whole time. I look at these girls and I respect them because they're here doing what I'm

1:17:24 and I respect that when you stop I I just don't I mean I feel like there's that's the thing is there's this awesome because my heart is here. Like I, I'm right now I'm, I'm, I'm here and I'm doing what I'm doing. You don't have 100% to give everything. When it's time, I'll look at that. put their energy to and then their identity because their identity is of a fighter.

1:20:54 that unless you're the person in the woods And then on top of that, you're dealing with what you're dealing with. it's been a lot of trying things but i I do feel value in this, you know. I just think people maintaining themselves But again, like it would need to be on, I don't know if it's on some sort of route or whatever that people would need to be able to show up to or what.

1:23:33 it's a wireless EEG. So I know that every week they make you do the EEG like same time, cover it for that. But then, um, TRICARE is also accepting them as insurance as well. I mean, is it better now than it was last month? And then, you know, like, that was what was fun. it's not fun no one wants to do that on purpose yeah you know i want to go in and do what i can

1:26:30 have I stopped believing in myself. stopped believing that this is what I'm meant to do right here right now and I have time and I have eating like 600 calories a day and doing faster cardio and two workouts and my weight wasn't but I don't hate it. So do they have you on armor thyroid or something like that? It's levothyroxine. i wouldn't try it now just because i'm in camp but maybe in between the next ones yeah i'm

1:29:34 i started getting nervous about it and then when i got it checked out it made sense my mom has it So I have – I talked to Eric Delfiero about it, I don't even know when he got there, but he was always there. He's got like a tattoo goatee on his face. they're putting it together based off of what they've seen out of me in the past. No, I'm going to be sparring MMA.

1:32:26 I did no-gi, or I did gi for like the past four weeks, And what about wrestling? Are you doing any wrestling training? And it's so much less effort when you toss someone over their head on the ground Yeah. or seeing if she could make 135 yeah but she was like weeping and it looked like But they were like, hey, how about Chris? those guys are 182 yeah i'm not paying her hotel she's so fucking

1:35:58 Like, dying, dying. You have to stay. Yeah. Like put the sauna suit on me. I don't like put it on me. I don't what, you know, so not that I don't want to get back in that bathtub like put the sauna suit on me I It is the worst part of fighting. It really is. And it's so, it's so unnecessary. There's got to But to have people contracted to weight classes is like it's hurting the sport.

1:39:06 And I think especially because the sport is, I mean, it's very blatantly clear that this is not a bracketed sport. value like look you can get, or catch weights even like, Uh, That's the thing though, is me healthy, like it don't matter. picking her shots and and just trying to be very professional. She knew she had to go for that didn't happen again yeah and jermaine was like see ya jermaine fought for the belt right and then that didn't happen again

1:42:32 but she did it twice and one time hurt her bad. and I definitely think she deserved the nod if you take points away, And then it became a PED issue. She said that Cyborg is a lifetime PED cheater, on whatever was going on with her hand, Damn. What's crazy doing that. division. 145 right now. She's strong. I mean, who the fuck is there? Yeah, it's the four.

1:46:07 When did she fight Cyborg? What am I doing in here? And still, Cyborg was still chasing after her for every fucking round. But Bars knocked her down with a front kick to the face and she dropped her and still up, fought her in Lion Fight. But, you know, when you have a division that's that small, They have to be legit, you know? Fuck a commercial. And it's not like you run out of shit to watch.

1:49:17 sports. Like live sports laugh tracks and then cut to commercials you're like what is this cliffhangers to be continued I recently went to like, I've been to a couple escape rooms. Yeah, I didn't get out. uh rescue that i go down and I'll like break them you can lasso them and then let you ride them like what the fuck like wild horses You ride me around now.

1:52:52 And she rescued this horse. horses one it gives them something to do because the ones that are disabled like they're hating And so they were trash. both and it's like a see-through wall you because like there is a little bit of like if you keep going up that fence they have like one to climb. yeah why climb it you just swim a couple hundred yards over. Yeah, right. It's like 200 yards maybe. That ain't shit.

1:56:19 happening to the human race for sure is that we're getting we're going to realize that countries are stupid see but I think I mean I agree on that on the i i almost feel weird sometimes that like you know know, my kids, my kid doesn't see too or i think that too like cool like i can find my people you know but on the actual like Yeah. before we should build a wall over Mexico.

1:59:27 And you go up there and nobody stops you. is if you let anybody travel wherever they want. And unbelievable, beautiful views. And you could walk to Mexico from La Jolla has some of the wealthiest real estate in the world, right? And unbelievable, beautiful views. I'm going to say. Depending on, yeah. 20? Even Coronado. is that called the peninsula yeah yeah so but they have an ability at both the peninsula

2:01:55 There's like some little tiny island that's filled only with rich people. Is that it? Damn, badass houses though. That's not safe. That place is filled with pirates. every time I go down there, okay, Pensacola, He put Pensacola on the map. was pretty cool uh I just never um it was hard for me to like, to relate boxing to any sport I'd ever done. And like,

2:04:25 I don't know. you know, of me also thinks like you know some of that had to come with, Like I don't want to get hit. But, like, it's stunning. And it's been fun. towards the physiology of it But if you do it 100%, and especially hot yoga, Everything's loosened up, and you can get into, like, deep, deep stretches and deep poses. And then there's these bursts of, you know explosive movements but so much of it is

2:08:11 So I was in that every night. against anything or it'll burn your ass in the chair yeah and the chair is like this little was down and they were like what in the fuck and they was no hot water for some reason. The hot water was down. make weight well and it's awkward to be in a sauna with your opponent too and what i fought and I was like, Oh, you have quit in you. And I already knew I won the fight. I already knew I

2:11:09 but there's, You're like, Let me run out that door. You know, it's right there. But that is what creates those heat shock that we have. Yeah. So do you, what is like the temperature and duration recommended for that? Like a traditional sauna. I think what really matters is just the extreme temperature. It just feels better for my brain, too. Yeah. speed. I appreciate like the,

2:14:59 So it's like freaking out. Oh, my God. You just feel fantastic. How many times a week? which is another form of I'm going to try it. I sit in there and I just turn up the jams. yikes, You hop in there and freeze your ass off and then hop in the sauna. but it's like, I guess I don't know. I mean, I don't hate it. When you have that date in mind. Yeah.

2:19:30 Yeah. With me, I always, I always get mine the day of weigh-in. Did she ever say why? she was there one of the days. Her jujitsu is fucking nasty though, isn't it? Were you? again i'm like okay noted i can't don't go near that line so i go and i shoot another double pick her up go take her They're like, you can't do that. You're disqualified. It does.

2:22:54 of like have your birthright like i got this you know i made it to some pretty badass tournaments But to be disqualified, it was like, but I still. Okay, maybe the first one. And I like her, you know, instead oh my god it's rough it's rough i'm not playing it don't play it jamie don't even pull it So George Grigel came in with me, and he's like, just in case she gets messed up anymore.

2:25:35 Yeah, but she fucking speaks perfect English. do you need to translate her like that's that's insane damn i don't know all that I don't give a fuck. But I was like, why do you need to translate her? Like, that's, that's insane. Damn. I don't know all that. I don't know all that either. You know, Yeah, I see. Don't fuck that up with some shenanigans.

2:27:29 different thing but it's like you remember when madonna had a fake english accent and everybody's Like how did I pick that up so quick? Sure. You might as well be Australian. i'm like oh okay cool english well isn't there isn't there is it like ibiza that like whoever really yeah i'm sure there must be like different accents in brazil right brazil's fucking huge oh

2:30:24 Because once you're there and just oil and lime and and seasoning is so good i better not talk anymore I know how to send stuff out, but I don't know how to – I'm glad we finally did this.