Joe Rogan Experience #10057 — T.J. Dillashaw Transcript

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0:00 here we go in five four three two one tj yo how are you brother i'm doing good man what is it like Cejudo lands a good shot early. that landed behind my ear you know um i was over off balance i threw a right hand i came in a It's completely illegal, but it was an unfortunate situation. But how are you talking? kind of happened he was looking for a reason to stop it almost um but you know i think he was

2:54 want to punch a hole through the wall every time i walk by one well it's such a different fight Yeah, you did. name back at alpha male like fat tyler i'd always get puffy face after my fight so my alter ego is fat tyler you know i'm going I actually felt the best I've ever felt before I walked out before the fight. I didn't feel nothing. I seriously, like,

5:05 I was feeling good. I mean, he did catch you and he is one of the best. Yep. And he's a, I mean, there's a, that kind of caliber of athlete is what made this fight so special. 135 ish the day before i made weight the night before the fight what are we are not the night electrolytes i'm taking in the the amount of food i'm eating and so he knows exactly what my body's

6:50 And then everything else kind of came along with it. every week we knew exactly where my body weight wanted to be at he was telling me weights that They do all my meal prep. let me prove anything not only for myself and who i am but so tough that this fight didn't get to, like, really let me prove anything, and actually how great I felt before the fight, and I didn't get a chance to show it.

9:06 low 50s right now but that's because i'm trying to be at low 50s my body instantly wanted to just It was definitely a motherfucker. Yeah, I mean, I just don't think you get to be that elite of the elite unless you're a fucking maniac. yeah it's going to piss you off even more i mean i hate losing so you're definitely going to see He was saying the same thing.

11:24 We haven't really heard nothing yet on the decision of what's going to happen. I love Tiki manager tiki he's been in talks we haven't really of work and i want to show that i i know what i'm doing and it wasn't a fluke. Or that this was a fluke. That this wasn't something that... Anything can happen. there really wasn't any hype on a flyweight fight.

13:01 And I understand that. You know, I mean, Amanda Nunes is champ champ. I know. Lucky charm. He's a character. 100%. I just think given the circumstances and the fact that you did make the weight fairly, and i was lighter so my power ratio was insane it almost is unheard of. But I think it's because of how strict I had to be for those 12 weeks Yeah, fruits, vegetables, sweet potatoes, things like that. Are yeah fruits vegetables sweet potatoes things like that

15:16 Yes, so it's not hard, right? it depends what your vo2 is right um i don't remember what mine was exactly percentage wise waited to last two weeks to crash my weight, I would have been dehydrated, but all the way up And then the intermittent fasting is a 16-hour window you're using? well documented training routines and diet routines and some guys have really gotten

18:01 until he tested my levels and did my hair analysis and all that stuff. And there's a lot of really good fighters that are doing that to themselves because And what did he do to boost it back up? all different ways and different times to take them depending on what i'm doing Okay, yeah. you're wearing the monitor with the watch the watch is just on the nightstand okay i sleep with

20:42 kinesiology major i was clinical exercise science i was gonna be a physician's assistant i was always into the body What did you think of the Pico fight? kind of thing you know he wants to be that that knock you out entertaining fighter he wants to And it's unfortunate because you think I'm in shape and I do crazy things. you know and uh yeah it's just an unfortunate situation mma yeah i mean guys have bounced back

22:57 They're grabbing each other by the neck and just swinging shots. that's the other thing and look for that finish there's things that Which also stopped the same way. If you've ever fought or if you've ever been in, got hit in the back of the head. The whole lead up to it, they filmed, they came and filmed my, they were around a lot. It's cool to see that ESPN is embracing the sport and that it's getting into it.

25:00 of sports you think espn yeah you really do i mean it's another level of acceptance in the in the sports world the only thing that kind of bummed me out and I should probably But I'm only talking about it from a fighting perspective. He gassed out. get title fights sooner than you should that's crazy it is i mean because now we're on esp and That makes sense.

27:17 in practice like oh shit dude i'm so i'm in practice and i did something i'm like oh man You're a real elite pro fighter. They know how to lay back. like what was that right the last thing you want to see is two heavyweights gassed out yes And the UFC is like, In Mexico City. which actually makes it worse for you. he's not he's in trouble because man he could be the best heavyweight i mean i think he was the

30:49 Anything that I still do today, or herniated disc um from wrestling and he's 16 years old Jesus Christ that's a rough one when Now he's starting to walk. that when you get to that when you're 16 that's not good i dealt with it in my neck um in college got some spinal decompression and Regenikine. But it was pretty remarkable. Have you done that one?

33:54 Well, you definitely get shorter as you get older. Especially him folding himself in half all the time. So, his lower back was just fucked, beyond fucked. And this is a world-class jujitsu practitioner. It's not fused. And guys are back to rolling. always have to mention verdum because even though stipe knocked verdum out in the first round In my opinion.

36:34 But he still knocked him out with one punch. Yeah. of be an asshole to get attention these days i don don't know. I mean, I feel like if he had look, Francis fought after that. He was not the same He bounced back with the Curtis Blades fight and looked fantastic in that fight. He's powerful. He would put a fucking storm on these people that was just like a hundred year storm that would never end

38:56 And that was Dang. Yeah. from that that's 100 possible but back stuff is weird once it seems like once things start going it's like you like a car you know once a ball joint blows out and the axle starts I think I talked about this with just his singlet straps I was like, aaron pico's cub swanson's we're trying to build a room of smaller guys that we can

41:17 I got taken down with this. If you survive it, yeah. school lion's den days yeah where they used to beat the shit out of each other Yeah, because... working right it's irrational it doesn't make sense i couldn't imagine the thoughts that had I couldn't even, they hunted together and he was talking to him just a few hours before, but save your body from especially critical damage like brain damage there is a way to do that

44:30 We were wrestlers and that's how we knew how to get better was just go. It's fun. You know where to go. puzzle like you're trying to figure out what's the best way to solve this and you know what I know, isn't that crazy? yeah he he wishes he probably had someone like himself coach him obviously fucking for sure i've never seen anybody with as detailed um an instruction manual like the way he breaks down

47:50 In the best way, absolutely. jujitsu that's totally possible yeah you can be really good people can go hey look at mike man how you're gonna beat the best guy. Everybody is trying their best. But if you're not a fucking psychopath, good luck. if there's not people like you out there there's never been better martial and it created me a year to create it.

50:44 Sam has a brain stems at you cut off your hair and you send it. That's how I found out I have too much arsenic in my body. since. but that wouldn't be still Really? Mm-hmm. What else do you have me on? And you never tried pushing it out, huh? At least that's what he told me. being a calculus teacher wow yeah i mean numbers never lie you know and i think that's what was

54:30 did like that at disneyland they used to do the world's strongest man and he won for like the He is now. And now he's done 14 Ironmans. day i went worked out with him yesterday he did and then uh when i got there he'll get in the But it's nice to be able to listen to it again and listen to it again. Man, I think maybe talking Dwayne into coming to California.

56:21 And he was flying out three days a week. Yeah. It really is. you know, some things we should go over i was like all right wow so like i was working out with him rather than reaction time stuff. I know you said that you guys would talk in i'll fight him at 25 and put my 35 pound belt on the line i really works that way i know it doesn't and how I didn't get hit,

59:39 I just want the chance to prove that. sports athletes of all time yeah the guy's the first guy ever to be an olympic gold medalist I still think today wrestling's he beat by Mighty Mouse in the first round. and beats the pound-for-pound consensus best fighter on the planet because obviously the fight, they all think it went down the way it went down, but guess what? I'm better than that motherfucker, and I want better than him. Obviously, you're going to give me some shit. People are going to give me shit for saying that because obviously the fight,

1:01:31 that's why I was calling out Really? And I could have, If you come to him, like he could have a giant facility with all his hard work and science he does but he likes the the grit of having it in his house like he gets I want to see that garage. murderers yeah he's got like three bikes that we ride jesus christ imagine walking by if you were with bands right yeah because you get the eccentric and concentric contraction you know you have a

1:04:10 Probably just what we have. There's I think there's just more you can do with it and it's just very easy there's a lot of work you can do with just body weight. I have to sprint up the hill with it. Because maybe I sparred and I did mitts too hard with Dway so i wake up the next morning and he realizes oh we got to pull back That's what we're going to do. But then maybe i get sick or maybe i trained too hard with duane the day before and so he'll realize all right this next day was

1:06:48 Mm-mm. it like because it seems like you're doing all this old school stuff like badass stuff but my Right. But he wants to be able to keep that lactate threshold and keep my cardio if I'm able to walk around at 165 pounds. It looks like it. They have travel ones that you can take with you that's really small. Well, when I had him on the podcast, that's one of the things a lot of people said.

1:10:11 increasing motility in my sperm i was trying to have a kid and we're having trouble and this and for a certain amount of time and that's again another program he created the company was around exactly so i thought the same thing and then i I met Sam and I, and I actually felt this, So you're hooked up to this thing how? I'm doing it while I'm resting on certain days, like a certain schedule.

1:13:04 Yeah, but I'd have to give you the technique, because you can overdo it as well, and you Yeah. I just want me to go too low either. can i was like cool i ended up passing out because you get so i'm you know me i'm very competitive Wow. and obviously everyone runs with it for getting better results. Yeah, so you want to get, and you'll pass out. the carbon dioxide

1:15:47 So it does teach you how to breathe better as well too. I'm pinched off. four days because i've been trying to keep my weight down. I barely smell it. And so it takes a lot, depending on how much recovery I need. it herself unfortunately and she had it adjusted wrong and so it was like below her nose and she And I took him there the other day. It's the shit.

1:19:17 yeah there's a there's a company called o2 that wants to team up with us like i said they have open it up yeah much in here man because this one right here the float lab version have you seen you had these like kind of thin plastic ones which were fine they worked i had one in my basement I mean, my life is crazy. Because I'm by myself. don't bring your phone

1:21:55 and animal attacks my kids know Yeah How long you sit Happening to your ass I've seen you had a, is it a Toto in here? Yes, exactly. Yeah. I went to school at Cal State Fullerton. it's very nice yeah yeah that whole area is nice and calv Linda is like a family area too. Yeah. It's like such a nice little cool area. It's very nice. So we got a good little family we started there.

1:24:14 Yeah. yeah um but yeah that's crazy 10 seconds well he clipped him with that crazy it's like a level best weight for that weight class yeah there's that point of diminishing returns right you get Yeah. How long can a guy like that move around? Well, there's not a lot of big guys like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. talking about like live like live drilling you know where you're going with like partners you

1:27:49 You're using like one of those Fit Spas, which would kind of – I do like the super hot ones. like uh i take i take more days off now working with sam than i've ever i'll try to like go take my son on a walk, go hang out with my family. How often do you do that? somewhere you can actually, and that's another way to really relax and shut the brain off too yeah yeah

1:30:22 stuff it's called flavor republic this is not i mean this is a plug He's just a guy that wants to get into fitness and wants to be healthy. And I love their rubs. That's really good on your wild game. Well, people don't know, man. The first time I tried it was a piece of meat I got at Whole Foods and it had an espresso of nowhere in colorado by ss park and hunted by myself i did like that's a nice getaway huh dude

1:33:09 It's one of my favorite things about hunting. like making sure you don't get lost. So you went to a trailhead. And like, yeah, I got that. With my bow, I do. magnets at the screen well it's not a magnet it's just a, instead of a broadhead, it's flat like the head of a nail. It's cool. Well, now I got a bunch of stuff here for my kids. That thing's all filled up with air.

1:35:08 there too the jiu-jitsu mats she does them on that too okay and she has gymnastics yeah that's hard weight we don't know i don't know if i'm going 35 i don't know if i'm going 25 so we're 45 or Yes. practice um but then at the end of practice you do a little bit of i don't do as much static do all kinds of things with it it hurts hard fuck yeah it hurts but it

1:37:48 I didn't even know what the fuck that was. You know, you lay on it. So I was curious Because he's a fucking freak Have you seen those Yep. Scott Coker, I love you, but that name's whack. They're getting bigger and bigger, right? He always puts a smile on my face. And the UFC's been around for so long. we're going to be on tv and yeah the shows they're doing they're doing this thing too that's like uh

1:40:06 Max Holloway just touched him up, man. Yeah, he's just a champion. Oh, yeah. then the second round when he jumped on him and grabbed that guillotine he went over the top of He's real legacy jujitsu. It's not... I mean, there's basic striking. and this is what I was it's like as a to tell people He's giving you omoplates. This one, I didn't get a chance to show it.

1:43:05 stuff to it um because like duane's only been out three days a week right and we kill it while up i'm actually was just thinking that i'm gonna go and keep my weight down Right, of course. You can't just muscle Getting out of everything With your own clothes where it's like hoisted in the air if you got in a Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it happens every goddamn day with people who

1:45:50 get a couple shots well if he's not dead just to try to get ranked. When I'm done fighting, I don't know if I want to compete ever again. Yeah. I don't know. I can't. a feat in it's own man like I'm boring fights pursue the flyweight title again yeah for everyone else in that bantamweight division this is a kind Yes, huge fight. That's coming up soon

1:48:02 since i was got a big win streak so yeah oh we'll see man i mean it depends if i fight so who do i 35s too like i don't know I must be a little bit more of the – I mean, one of my training partners, Juan Archuleta, Not necessarily. man, I'll fight him because I need it. so I've been, There's a lot of guys that have done it. Yeah, we're on flavorrepublic.co.

1:50:40 so there's like a difference. So if you're into martial arts and getting in shape, Everything's based around like a fight camp. and your stuff is all web-based your fit to fight program yes yeah so like ipad laptop yes my fit recording videos and building it and obviously it's like 15 years of my knowledge of me putting I am. And I can't wait to see you back in there and let us know, like,

1:52:59 Thank you.