Joe Rogan Experience #10071 — Rico Verhoeven Transcript

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0:00 and boom right when you take a drink of water that's when we go live always that's when we go wow so that's crazy how big kickboxing is in Holland as opposed to America. it's so much more logical It's totally different. Sort of. um fought on it but it's like you know nobody in the crowd no but also like muay thai is also with Elbows and knees in the clinch

2:53 They're nasty Muay Thai guys see these guys faces are just getting destroyed yes i mean they just ripped apart it's crazy So I think that's a good thing. and somebody just, he said on accident, So I gave him a few extra low kicks after that. Yeah. It is enormous overseas. Yeah, it's always full. Did he get an MRI or anything like that? Yes. pressuring him i was pressuring him the whole time and i was trying to feel like where is my distance

7:41 style so you put insane pressure on guys for a heavyweight So when I started at the gym, So I was like, I can keep hitting those guys hard or just go with less power and pressure them like they try to pressure And that's how I try to step into the ring with that mentality like people don't understand And you're on a different level. Yeah. i was like holy what a fight yeah what a fight that was that guy's a big too yeah

12:08 And then once you got him into the deep water, you stopped him in the fourth? You got tagged. And that's what happened. It's not that, from my point into that and that's what that's what happened it's not that figure out when you can finish and when you can't exactly yeah just stay focused Like 270 pounds, I think. Oh, he wants another fight? Yeah, he wants another game. How many fights has he had since then? I don, seven years. I beat you last year. Oh, he wants another fight?

14:13 But like I said, now I'm in, like, last year, the 31st of December, level competition for a long time and then he fought you yeah yeah yeah so the thing was everybody was uh i was Yeah. The hotel is yours. But now we can do it again. He stomped him And then after that fight, I don't know. I mean, a decision? And now he's not training I don't know who he's training with

17:38 You know that That's a big leap, right? You know how, obviously, they know how to kick. There's where people don't understand. You got to feel comfortable. And the only way you can be comfortable and stay comfortable is being active yes being Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know what to do or what ways there are to because I'm not on it.

20:52 again after this whole issue safe in the ring and what do you mean with safe you're going into a fight i understand but hey you got to watch you you really want to know what kickboxing all about watch this fight this because of the barter fight that was so we were getting we were just getting more air time and So that's how everything a little bit exploded.

23:40 It's a fake thing for me. And everything these days you maybe get to 60 70 fights he's got amazing records I mean so many knockouts But that's all that I'm looking at. Like even when he fought Stefan Leko Some crazy strength routine first i do low reps and then i do a lot of reps because these muscles aren't for me aren't skating and they all have a certain type of explosiveness that they train in a certain way

27:45 And that's what we try to do. We try to be as fast as possible for a big guy so a lot of plyometric type stuff explosive type stuff yeah uh with the barbell but as much with uh with the dumbbells because that's when you gotta keep in It depends on who's in. There's no point for me in knocking guys out during sparring I mean, there's a lot of Dutch guys.

30:03 try to keep it back just a little bit. I mean, that's one of the most valuable things, right, But we trained together. That's true. to surround myself the mark of a confident fighter. for me but in the end everybody that gets better can help me get better as well. The first kick he ever threw, he threw with you. And like I said, I was just positioning myself as a sponge a sponge I was trying to get as much information in there as

32:50 So every time I'm in L.A., I'm going to work with him. because he was probably So technical. a little bit of sparring. You know, I don't want to kick nobody's ass. No, no, no. Right. Yeah. Why? but holland that's a fucking that's a long that's a lot of flying yeah it's a lot of time 11 hours So that's your next goal. They were trying to. Here we can get like five, 10,000.

36:39 I'm looking at the sport like a totally different way. Yeah. Yeah. pretty insane how pretty intense because there's no way to block anything anymore right You can shell up better. doing that i mean because i know they do have some matches where they wear big gloves just to No. just gigantic and they keep getting bigger and bigger and they got really really high-level fighters too, so it's really interesting.

39:35 Exactly, because that's what brings the whole sport up. I'm going to make a movie either way. I told them not to do this, and still this happened, so I'm going to stop. Of course. It's a hard transition. Not a lot were, like, really good. still fighting is there a worry about not being a hundred percent all in no no because then the at this moment like rico's not focused he doesn't say hey but i train every day i'm focused in what

42:55 I like it. I say, yeah, it could be. That's what I was going to say. Okay, I'm out. A year. i hate it so much and i jump on the treadmill or i go outside and i just want to come on come on you gotta keep going you gotta keep going because And that's when a lot of people give up. Is just long range running I mean, that's one of the things, if you go back and look at old-time fighters,

46:43 Like, no, no, no, fighters run. But also just, yeah, your basic lung capacity should be big as well. it's really interesting how different camps, different trainings just polishing everything and I think I found the right I've shown that I'm fitter than all the rest. when you get to the fourth and fifth round? So you can, i always compare it with On the side of the road

50:13 Yeah Yeah I think And that's what I do to myself as well. Right. Because for me, in my mind, I don't know what it is. whole team so my power coach oh okay so the same same team the entire yeah can Yeah. Saturday night I went to the mcdonald's what's the problem look at your blown head man see that like yeah you know fat holds the the Do you do it with a computer?

53:25 Really? Or your body is still recovering from last training. in you kind of have to be scientific about everything right yeah because there's so much more than just uh fighting and good training it's like That's what everybody said too. So that's, no, I have no clue. Yeah, yeah yeah for sure so uh but that's that's the But it's just all clean. Because you're just training so so much yeah so what what kind of foods do they prepare for you

56:48 No, but still I have in my mind always a certain type of fight weight 2.2 kilos or 2.2 pounds per kilo 118 is 260 pounds 260 so that's right right around there Yeah. Every day I'm thinking about it. Don't know I thought I feel like I'm obsessed or you have to be obsessed Now, do you take vitamins and supplements? just to keep everything on the right level.

1:00:01 So that's how we try to do that. No. really starting to your whole body in there It's the fucking shit. I'm like, come on. is like I get one in my own gym from there I know it's like again it's like a training I know but I'm like it's like enjoying it come on Come on. I got up to like 210, 218. I was like, I don't think this is good for you. In mortality

1:03:16 That was in Explaining it with extreme cold so there was this, But you're in water, so you're like floating. i'm gonna sleep for an hour it's a big one too guys i'm out it's huge the one i have here is All that Epsom salts, the magnesium magnesium gets through your skin into your bloodstream so it's really Just keep checking, like, oh, what's this?

1:06:03 Things that are starting to go south, they can stop it in its tracks and loosen everything up. say yeah i'm rico the fighter i'm rico the champion because of all those people that are around me. What about psychology? right yeah you have to have everything in line if you want to be at the very top of the heap yeah you have to what about uh psychology do you have a mental trainer or anybody who's like a sports

1:07:51 Yeah. So he's in my corner. Or, yeah, I just had to. And you put them away. You just fall off. But for me, and maybe a lot of people have, maybe not nowadays, but, like, from back in the days, people still had, like, when you're talking through a psychology, you crazy. You just don't be a pussy. or from a sports psychologist, there's advantages to be had.

1:11:25 it was like a lot of discussion give it a right But in my opinion, everything in life, positive or negative, happens for a reason. Those people wind up becoming losers It's going to ultimately make me better at everything I do. Exactly. It doesn't mean that they have to be important in business or in work visualization plan when you go into a fight like say like this rematch with Badr Hari are you going to sit down and visualize certain scenarios

1:15:19 and before this is going to be next level okay but how are we going to approach this fight what is going to you are the fucking best of what you do you're smacking the shit out of everybody in the in in because I've been doing this my whole life. you say where but where does that come from can come from anywhere you know from your body being Is it going to be available on UFC Fight Pass?

1:18:14 Well, I'll find out and we'll make sure we tell everybody when it's taking place. one-on-one fight from this time. I fucking love it man i'm just How do they get it? That's it.