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Joe Rogan Experience #1008 — Cody Garbrandt & Urijah Faber Transcript

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0:00 All right, gentlemen, we're live with a freshly fed Uriah Faber. And Cody motherfucking Garbrandt. Look at him. anything so i've got like all these natural little gaps it's like i'm like a squirrel my food gets Like you had a long career, but you didn't get too banged up, and you picked the right time. and like revived our town you know we had cody fighting for the belt like coming right up and

2:43 You get hit in the head a bunch of different times. attention to how you did it and do it the right way. I told Uriah, I said, if I start getting fucked up and they're knocked out, We're always going to fight through it and obviously a lot of different reasons you know Absolutely. got guys in there that won't see the ufc daylight i mean they'll never see step foot in the octagon

5:15 and move on to whatever you're doing next. Did they change the name? But he's a real world-class professional fighter. like you said, you got a Gaethje and you got So for Lance, we just have to exit him at the right opportunity. So, you know, it's hopefully just something where he can make that transition over. How do you guys feel about win-lose, like, paydays?

6:58 and the judges, I mean, Yeah. They started with boxing and then they learned a little bit about MMA and then they came over and started judging MMA. but i don't know for me it's mma so pure like it's the most pure thing you can do so you got I think that is to warrant against the guys that are doing it for the wrong reasons. yeah i well i had to start i mean there was no weight class for me at that time yeah now i

9:40 I remember that they didn't even have padding on the pole. Yeah, I think we did. Paved the way, man. And I always reached out to Uriah. I was able to make the trip out there. And Chris was on, Holdsworth was on. I think it made him look at things a lot different. was dealing with some concussion issues? And he'd be like, but like like holdsworth is like weirdo you know master tong always used to say hey you know tj champion uh

12:48 Yeah, super good, and I remember coming out there with all those guys, you know, like looking at my tattoos. Came out, you know, the week after we shook handshake. And I'm like, I'm going to buy a house. But you could do it. But I was able to get a fucking— TJ lived there. That's the nice neighborhood in Sacramento? Tahoe's closed. And there's a heart to it.

16:35 like all big team alpha male fans with a discount it's like almost like a friday night lights change up this year we've had. what you do with the belt. I'm like, dude, this is not fun. Do you think that running, I've had a conversation with a friend of mine about this with Conor McGregor, me and Cody had a discussion and do like 40 seconds on, 20 seconds off.

18:56 And, I mean, so you can't really argue with that. but henderson's good buddy i'm like when i first started fighting you know i was training with Yeah. I think he's the savage, dude. Yeah. He's a savage. He is a savage. Yeah. we live in that tri-state area so i would fight and i had a bunch of books i'd fight in ohio on But he never really forced us to run.

21:20 distance to just enable your body to dig deep in those late rounds when you're you're regimen, like their dad's pushing them, No one was having me wrestle or do anything. I mean, some people move around more like Dominic and some people are more stationary but also I have endurance, too. going to fight for the cage. He's just so efficient, too, and he knew that Conor was going to fade because Conor was relying so much on explosiveness and tense.

24:35 with with the fight and i figured that would happen i just didn't think that connor would do start landing shots. He's just a far better And if he wasn't able to finish him, you know what I mean? Either way. So I would literally go so hard. Fatigue makes cowards of us all. Shit, I didn't know. eyes in there because I'm tired. I know that And so the one thing I went back and I watched that fight, and I'm like, you know, you're always looking at excuses of why, you know, why did I lose this fight or not.

28:07 You know what I mean? and knowing that you guys were eventually gonna fight and We had a good time with the team and we were fine until like I said squared up with me and I was like all right we're gonna throw down like cool just me and him we'll I was there in his towel. I was like, fed up with the whole thing. fight like i saw i was like all right cool he's gonna fight me and then uh he put his hands down

31:20 and i would not fight in five or six days after i just fought like that right he was damage he's fighting hyder who hyder has good like i think eight knockouts vicious knockouts It was honestly hard. It was honestly hard. I remember them in the UFC. that's right because you guys did there was a crazy live the only live season what was that like Yeah.

34:02 Too much. doing well in business but then there's a whole like underbelly to the city that's compulsive And Vegas has just sold out. So it's like LA social climb, Vegas sold out. which is all the casinos and then you got the surrounding areas that are just sort of feeding little reunion place, you know? You'll love it. We have introduction to stuff.

37:18 That's amazing. First time I ever got staff was when I went out to Team Alpha, man. I'm like... I got staff in my leg. You have it in your nose and everything else. I think immune system down and then yeah Yeah. whatever i want i have a super high it's's hard for me, honestly, to gain weight. I've messed with some meal prep companies. best i feel the greatest you know i used to always cut weight and then like cut a lot of weight and

40:12 Aubrey gave me a whole thing and just reduction of inflammation. I get it at Carlson's. It's good for you to taste like shit. Sushi, salmon salmon i always do What's the name of the place again? gym and so he primarily runs that and there's no contact in that place. You can't do sparring and things like that. You can't kick or punch. You're not going to learn if you don't do something. They do bag work. No drills? I mean. You're not going to learn if you don't do something.

42:39 Yeah. The UFC is the enemy of boxing. Yeah. I'm so pumped. He's looked sensational against everybody except Floyd. He cut down way low and he just looks sluggish and Floyd is the best boxer pretty much ever. And just looked beautiful. I think it will be a good fight. Body punching, ripping shots I just like his I did that. I like Canelo too. who's world-class that is a brutal power puncher like him, who's bigger than him,

46:13 and it's going to get crazy. Phenomenal. Phenomenal fight. Instead, these guys create enemies and say this is a disgrace, Dana's like, is he doing blow and cross-dressing? He's hilarious. I said, bro, why don't you sit like you have $400 million in the bank Ronda gets murked. I mean, if you take his way to being a next gigantic superstar, right? The likes of, like, anybody that's ever been in the UFC.

48:59 they have the brain. I don't think anybody alive But there was a time where he was getting booed and everything Really? You know, I mean, he beats Rumble, he gets booed. People get mad who they like. And it's all hate, yeah, exactly. It was great of a fuck up. It's not good. and his camp is saying, like that. It's a weird substance that man. It's sad.

51:16 Or, the real problem is, or was he taking stuff the whole time? Yeah, I know. they let native americans do whatever the fuck they want yeah because we screwed them so bad Well, it wasn't we. My parents were here. When it comes Indians. Well, you know what we did to the Indians? Well, it wasn't we. And it had nothing to do with a planned attack on them.

53:16 salmon it's good it is good but it's not like the casino money you can buy a lot of smoke sound. That fox puts cash. Yeah, there's a place in Alberta where I've been hunting up there. They can catch as many fish. I'm going to Utah soon. Well, if you shoot an elk, like either of those elk heads that I had back, that's 400 pounds of meat. I mean, that's some nasty stuff.

55:03 But, you know they they get very a duck that he shot, Yeah. protein cats are what's called an obligate carnivore which means they they can't eat anything based on a total true story. They are fucking completely, they're like next level crazy. Yeah, I was out of town, man. Sacramento's fun, man. It's a great spot. to have me do something. right well i just told the story of the the chick that knocked on my door and came and shit all over

58:36 It was just a Saturday night. Yeah, it's probably up. What happened? he doesn't put that in there somebody's knocking fucking drunk and I'm like can I help you she's the door and she like just walks in and i'm Oh, Jesus. me and she like walks the end of my house and just locks herself in the bathroom. Is that her right there? Uh, yeah. That's great.

1:01:31 Look at the heroes. Yeah. So anyways, I think you should stop the shit. It's Cheater's bar, man. It ain't about cheating. Yeah, look at that. Found the bathroom shit all over the place. He cut that one off. If you know my house. like when it was being built and he'd be passed out on the on the floor he'd just get high as It's weird how you're doing that.

1:04:39 There's a bunch of super camps. recipe like we have our things that work and it And it's about regimen and a lifestyle. I'm like old school. Do you do that at all? And then TJ Dillashaw actually got one and had it at his house in his garage. Yeah. So that's the first, I never, I was never been like a big strength and conditioning So I was going to heal my hand while i was doing these

1:08:26 I would get it to where I was doing, you know, like four sessions a week. I think they have all that stuff there. and your ankle's messed up for two three and having some really quick recovery. Jesus, that stuff's scary. Rocky Mountain flea or something like that. Yeah. system releases immunoglobin E antibodies to fight this foreign sugar. it's been around he's done some shit but that's fucked up right that is chat mendez got that

1:11:30 can't see Chad as a vegan the salt And they have the – right next door, they have the hyper – or the – I have to be at a right place to go in there, I think. it was crazy i went in there so you really felt like No way. of working out a couple times a day, and that's what you do. Like I have been like an overeater. Not even fat. And then he'll wait like a day and then be like, man, babe, you're looking a little bigger.

1:15:31 That guy is fucking legit, man. In our sport, you have to be able to go with a world champion jiu-jitsu player, a world champion wrestler, And then I had told Chad before that I would do this charity fishing trip I feel like I'm one of the best grapplers in the sport. when I first started training in mixed martial arts I mean, we rent it out. You have to bring your family up there.

1:17:37 So Paragon used to be like the size of two of these tables in a little room. I'm going with that guy. That's cool. And I'm like, no, because you're always worried about me and other people's guards. I said this the other day. bottom game. Well, I have to say that because you have to look out guillotine from his back, Yeah, that fight, He hits hard.

1:19:44 He got a black eye. He's like around you Dominic Cruz shit talking look look away and i was like okay i'm gonna have to say something to him now we caught eye so and not like Biz Bing and Daniel Camaro was right there. He's an athlete. So what's the difference? Like, I don't know if George St. Pierre loves a good nasty like knockdown drag out. Is that what's going on? Chewing tobacco?

1:23:24 the emotional one. The way that he was acting I was like, man, this is going to be an easy fight for me. now fuck you know it's that fight leading up with dominic was everyone thought i was you know the He knew that. But all the way up to that point where I head kicked him and split him open and uh he was talking shit back Every time I'd hit him or I hit him with a good shot or he thought he'd get me with one, we'd go back and forth.

1:25:03 something because he throws looping punches and kicks and he's very unorthodox. You don't have to do that, but tell me from your point of view. But he left and that was fine. And MusclePharm was like— Let me help people out here. Right. that wasn't an issue so then i heard duane actually text me and was like duane said something So Dwayne texts me and says – and I said, dude, I never said – I had to set the record straight on Dwayne.

1:29:01 And it was Cody was there and Lance was there and all was there. And TJ, Chad Mendez, my buddy Phil, we sit down and talk. We go eat sometimes and everything. And TJ, Chad Mendez, It'd been like a year and a half since Dwayne had been gone. He told me at the time it was, I think, $4,500. It was nice having you on the team. So this felt real weird to you guys.

1:30:43 You know, we can look at the footage if you guys have the footage. i don't know they always tried tried that. Black House did. he he was coming in and tg was never the best teammate he would like try to hurt people he's I just need him to the bottom We talked about it That's why you call him Kilosha not to get taken down or get that extra or win that round.

1:33:15 can you take it easy on Chris is a killer is a killer fucking him up knees to the back of the head so Chris let him up the whole thing Majority of it. Obviously concussions. I was out there. remember telling tj i said look motherfucker you cheap shot me again we're taking the gloves off we're going in the street and fighting yeah And he wants to come in and come in and spar our guys.

1:35:50 There's a single leg guard series I used to get him with. let's finish out this, this last couple of days. taking this opportunity going to Denver me and Connor had one You're like a jealous girlfriend or whatever. And then Connor turned the public around on him yeah because it How weird. Connor was basically inviting him to fight and and tj's like yeah you know like nonchalant like whatever about it

1:39:14 but he's part of our team. He's a champion. We'll fight. been like this yeah I can live and prosper and focus on when it's time to And now with TJ, I don't respect him as a person, We were able to dissect Dominic Cruz before I got there we blended together TJ like it's been lights are on and having this mindset like you're appreciating the fact that tj is mean and skillful

1:41:37 embeddeds of him. He was running alone, you know, I'll never fight a lot of people win the title, he's a bad motherfucker. Now, what is this video, supposedly, of you knocking him out? I have seen it. It's Justin it was on justin's gopro He didn't go out cold, like flat out. Yeah, he's always like, And he knew that he had hit. He slipped. Buckles was filming his own.

1:44:36 No, I have cried in practice before because this motherfucker jumped me on my head I never cried. Teej never made me cry. Pride. or whatever. you didn't make it he was saying he made us beat us all up like with the dominic sit down or do you think you should to where you're feeling comfortable and Huge fight. We were sparring 10 rounds for the cruise fight, 10 straight fives,

1:47:36 but you're working the whole game, takedowns, submissions. there is there is nothing like you know like like we talked about running sprinting and blowing out Yeah, being comfortable there. And coming into fights like already kind of a little soft. spar hard though? Maybe all that stuff. Ten rounds, yeah. You've got to get those in sometimes. not going to give an edge in practice i don't give an edge in practice favor takes me down

1:50:59 so for me you guys feel like you could ever reckon to ain't style or do you feel like he's Just stop lying about what actually happened to save your face. is that you kind of have to manage? and some sort of a counselor And that's, I would say that's one of my skills is, is getting along with people and making because we have so many fighters. Coach Joey Rodriguez is a head coach.

1:53:23 It's a big co-op. That's a great question. Absolutely. Fucking dopers. It was awesome. who's been with me since he's... And Danny was getting all teared up. kicking and wild shit like when he hit hit BJ Penn with a 360 roundhouse He's got good range. with his kicks. than he is with his hands. Very smart. can you please come back? ones that said it, like, we'll see what happens when

1:57:02 He's great at mixing it together. He went and trained with Israel Martinez not Frank Yeager level Yeah. You know, he got a win over Feely, but, like, Feely felt like, And then Darren Elkins lost to Chad, and Darren Elkins came to see us, Beats him down and KOs him. I walked out. He's always at every practice, listens to every coach. Boom, boom, boom.

2:00:02 Because they get tired. Kick him in the leg. Elk is a grinder. But it's also like the way he's moving looks better. But the footwork is the core of everything. good as his is not better and you were landing harder combinations for us master tong was all about footwork and body mechanics He wasn't allowed back? because he overstayed a visa. he knows master tong's style he knows uh my style he knows uh every coach you ever had in there duane style he knows you know anybody

2:03:14 That guy is the, hey, let's take a moment to acknowledge Sage Northcutt I'm going to tell you, he learns really, really fast. and she lost. and he's got all the knowledge. Now when you guys do a camp, like say you training for TJ, Faber always would preach about, hey, it's a lifestyle change. like who's who's the coordinator myself basically i kind of that's what we do like favorite always

2:05:21 just always like usually on that sunday we're like hey we lay it out lay it out do you like to do like Sundays kind of like a and then jiu-jitsu, so it's usually three on Mondays. in there and just wrestle. If I feel good, I'll drill. You're doing the grappling. because a lot of the boxers i was with wrestle or you know i mean so they would do we would just do

2:07:18 We're going to go wrestling, and then we're going to go in the clinch, But I found my own style here with going and doing. you know, we had to tone it back a little bit, We didn't have money. coaches and i think that you need to do this and we need to do that but you have to be especially Now, when you're scheduling everything yourself, like there's two schools of thought on that.

2:09:33 we need to make sure that you're getting this in. But that goes away when somebody fucks you up. I think for the cruise fight, the first time I wore a heart rate monitor for 90 seconds and just keep the input up so it's just four or five punch combos and finish with the How much time are you giving yourself in the recovery times? I got 30 more seconds.

2:11:29 Now here you are. How do you plan? Do you have of uh like master plan for your career you know what to start going on and who knows who knows what could happen in a year or so like i said i didn't think Damn, fuck football. and that he wanted to walk, so I just told him, and my back was really bad then. weeks off of like really training doing anything or it would switch side to be my left side or my right side so I would go southpaw until that side started

2:14:26 or a boxing stance, being like that, now I've reprived myself open, Like, there's no way. So you're not just having these procedures and then taking a long time to recover. by a couple of news outlets i was fighting october i'm like yeah that's the vegas right that's the Yeah, how they do that. texted john and dan because i can make 25 that was That was my whole game plan was to fight TJ July 8th.

2:16:49 Well, he said, and I guess his mindset is that he's one fight away from breaking the and TJ didn't make the weight, it would fuck him up. I guess it makes sense, but the other thought process is Part of it was like, fuck this guy. Man, this whole thing is so depressing with John. Four years? No, the first one was a tainted supplement, and they gave him a year, right?

2:18:55 Yeah, because they make you excited. Because they're fucking reckless. You're definitely different. all the time there's no like yeah he's red well i mean he had all the excuses you know the cocaine You wouldn't even notice it. there man it's beautiful when you find nice people because of that though yeah it balances it out Yeah, I need someone to beat up.

2:21:49 I like Michael McDonald. It's Cody. My thing is, either you, I whip your ass or you whip my ass. I said I got respect for you. Let's put on a show and I'm like walking away How about they throw a brimage You in a video game? I'm like, I'm like, and Cody was like, Karen Bryant asked about me I had my hands full sunglasses on like these big chick sunglasses yeah and his hood up and he was like get out of

2:25:11 be a savage that's what he kept saying i'm like right like i was like i'll come over and smack his little bitch nail. Karen Bryant asked that, Because he knows that. It has to be. you do and i'm like really thinking about this i'm like well you know hopefully i'll be professional And he's like, no, no. the first thing i said hey dominic how are you and i was like i was just waiting for dominic to say

2:27:50 the whole situation I wanted the rematch after the fight I said TJ TJ, come try me. He's probably getting decent money for that. That's a good question. He beat Almeida. I think he dropped him a couple times. he gets on because his fucking dick was half hard, but he's standing there. Unless he has a giant hog, and that's just what it looks like when it's limp.

2:29:40 A couple other guys had that same thing. Maybe. He's so composed. They were talking about what's-his-name who beat Rocky Marciano. Yeah, Ricardo Lopez. Minimum weight. 51 wins, zero losses in one draw. With a boxer, it was always undefeated record. Zero, yeah. to get out of the shoe-shining That's how it's been. Do you think it's gone away? Gaethje, yeah.

2:33:31 That doesn't mean that there aren't guys that they could set up with mismatches within the thing. and then they have the world championship fight. It's not even close, but it's getting close now. They are as well. rory i mean that's a guy who he's a strange character and like i wonder what goes on is But he's having a lot of frigging success, too. Explosive, dude.

2:35:49 He lost a five-round decision. You know what pisses me off is Ben Askren still fighting over in one FC. The style was weird, that's one thing, but Fuck yeah, I would have loved to see that guy fight the best in the world in the UFC. That guy destroyed Larkin on the ground. Just throwing them around. But what's he going to do in grappling against Asker?

2:37:35 Dude, Usada's changing lives, bro. Do you think you could get down to $1.35? We'll always give him a hard time. Like, ah, he's still got it. He's still in there. He'll come in. He does practices with us and teaches shit. We'll always give him a hard time. I'm retired. hell yeah did you ever feel any temptation when you knew that so many guys were using shit dude

2:39:19 I'm like, when you're not in the circle, you're definitely not in the circle. all the attributes, then it matters, right? Thanks. Huge fight. And Cody, you're on Twitter and Instagram. Adios.