Joe Rogan Experience #10085 — Max Holloway Transcript

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0:00 You know took yoga i had an apple party after the fight. looked like at least during the fight it was getting busted up yeah yeah you know it's yeah at the end of the day you know it's like it's what i said i just my my legs fell fine i went So good for him. Yeah, but it's just, it's, I think the system sucks, the 10-point must system. but, like, other fights, like, people, you see people who stick and move nice and this and that.

3:25 so it's just with judges not even being it is And I know there's a bunch of them that have never even fucking trained. Yeah, not supposed to be there. I'm just talking about other people. They do need to fire everyone. And now he finally got to Bellator. Just because someone, okay, maybe they did take a class, but it's like license. You don't know how much brake you should

6:21 ex-fighters that would make amazing referees And then getting to watch the fights for free live, front row. Joe, the old matchmaker. He shot. He wrote a letter to UFC, this and that, and what he think he should change, this and that. I mean, still is to this day. Why? When he's talking to me, I'm like, my gosh, Joe, you're a boss. I'm like, guys, boxers, MLB, NBA, NFL, they have the set schedule.

9:00 MMA fighters, they're like, don't you know what's going on? On super short notice I was I was 170. Yeah, we're cutting it. Where is Tony fighting? it in there. it like it's it's very hard when you fight someone weird and awkward, even Spartan, He's real good. I was talking to my friends. I'm like, this is, this is like, And we was at a party. So you go hit him.

13:11 like what are you and then he goes the little guy he goes he turns to my friend he's like what I think it's just genetics. And he's cracking. But everybody else he hits, they're like. You hit him in the chin. a skinny dude you know and like if you looked at anthony at Anthony Joshua... You would think he would knock out people. Frank Bruno was a boxer from England.

15:20 How to slip like woo woo woo but I was like guy in his 50s come on guy why are you moving like this and they would go with 16 year olds well you know in ghana was thinking about fighting in boxing for real yes and i think i think that's But he's got to get past Rosenstreich. That just shows you how nuts the sport is, right? he's winning. Your lip not going to ever look the same.

18:20 walking around with me and my son the next day. Oh, not the next day. And she's like, oh, I'm so sorry, boy, and blah, blah. we'll be back I'm just happy that at the end of the day I'm happy you know like i said i didn't need the belt to be a champion He was getting close. He did the points. Because I just felt when I was going Southpaw against him I just felt more

20:11 I could hear back to regular I don't know what they was calling, but they was saying dragon. So I guess it wasn't really ready for a southpaw, Max, more than a regular. I knew he was going to do that. we did good and then he just did better in one aspect with the leg kicks We'd end up getting into a tango, and he would just end with a leg kick You beat everybody in the division.

22:29 Yeah, it's going to sell for sure. guy right he was the one that everybody wanted to see you fight because he was undefeated and he I don't know how someone that tall is that heavy. He's just huge. Yeah. he's a big 45 where it didn't go his way. can't be doing this i don't even know how he can balance that fast. It's a tap. Yeah. He kicks so fast, man.

24:52 and just his foot land, It hurts. Against Terry Adam. All those fights. most kick oriented fighter i think in the sport because you don't see him beating guys down with Yeah. Him and Felder had two wars. it's so look fast twitch I was kind Yeah Look he opened up And then he got taken down the last couple of seconds of the first round, You have to take me down, and if you're not going to advance,

27:45 aldo if they gave that first round to marlin it's on the basis of that high kick some strikes landed I'm like, guys, this is how he looks. I told him, like, man, that's what I heard. He was going to have to go up to 55. ultimate media day or or whatever early in the week we i even worked out me and him had the same Sorry, George. You're holding on to whatever

30:38 Hold on to something bad was a good example. And then muscle wants water. No. It's gangster. Like, when you watch and you see a professional ex-boxer go to that bare-knuckle thing bare knuckles so yeah yeah you can clinch you can clinch you can clinch and punch from inside the I think it'd probably screw up my knuckles. Because when we do train, we're in boxing gloves anyway.

33:25 I think it's just preference. Crazy fight, right? He can't fight His suit costs $3 I give up I give it up to that guy for a lot of reasons. And the next thing you know, he's got this fucking character. Yeah, it's crazy. Like, it's not me. He got to live in it now Why did you laugh No they Yeah, but then you- That's it. Oh, that's hilarious. He kind of put on a little bit of an act like that, but Colby took it to a whole new level.

36:30 You know he's doing it on purpose. It was 3-3. But this is another example why we should have more judges. That makes sense. You know the judges suck already. I've talked to Ari. I've talked to Lorenzo. I i said let's get rid of weight cutting get rid of it do Right, right. Yeah. But I feel like hydration tests are the way. to fight for five rounds. Give him an extra pound. Yeah.

38:57 And you just walk around and fight. I have no idea. we in hollywood i can't be telling you my way we're not hollywood this is hollywood no this is chatsworth we're pretty damn close where's the valley bro we're pretty close if you had a guess Everything I want to eat You let me know Never. bro you gotta bring your shorts up come on use some board shorts you can't be using these tights

41:19 Listen, everybody's scared of Francis. I don't want nothing to do with Francis Ngannou. Fuck, that guy's too scary. Yeah, that was in yeah that was that that was Now it's like, come on. you early and earlier, you know? There's no fix for that. You just got choked out. And this is it. Because if you keep holding it, when you knock look, I'm going to turn everything off before you die. Yeah. And this is it.

44:06 Like I hit my head Or snap you down Yeah. You know what I mean? He's like, I'll let you go do a boxing match, but do a jiu-jitsu tournament I want to do a Jiu-Jitsu tournament He's like no He's like I'll let you go Do a boxing match But do a Jiu-Jitsu tournament Jiu-Jitsu Cut his eye Freak stuff happen Just beat Chrome Gracie He was locked up Quintet thing

45:58 James Kraus week i was like well i thought he was fighting but no he just doing the grappling so that's cool You know better than everybody that once you get there and you go the wrong way, your leg stays there. You know how many times I hurt my, doing, with my role with jiu-jitsu and my role with kickboxing, yeah yeah yeah it's like like some guys

47:44 oh there's always guys like that that I would hate rolling with. You always hear, ah! You know Yeah Love my teammates when it's your fight, was like the most difficult i know that was six four or something it's like already 200 pounds right 190 pounds 200 pounds You know, and that probably was the weirdest one, I think. Or he's off of you Who also had a real good fight with Jon Jones. A lot of people

50:41 But he by decision you know the referee's call yeah just different Don't let that shit fool you. in the ufc the other two brothers are nfl superst. What the fuck is in the water at the Jones house? That's probably why he became the fighter. Well, his brother's training MMA, too. Chandler is huge, too. Yeah, exactly. I don't know of any other family that has NFL superstars and a world champion combat sports athlete.

53:34 they couldn't figure out what was wrong with you, what do you think was going on? hour media and then we went to vegas i think i got to vegas on thursday and then you know i just guy and uh he's probably like watching this stream right now squirming while i'm talking about it but When is this all supposed to be settled out? You don't have to think about anything else.

55:40 I talk to my team. I'm like, yeah, but I have somebody come clean it later on. It's like a fight week. Do you like things going perfect? So I can appreciate my fortune And that's why You know like I'm like no take his life no it's not we're the sport yeah we're past these days you know so at the end of or whatever. we're human beings. in the world. That's the, nastiest people in the world.

58:20 He's just so nice. Real friendly Him and Gano You wouldn't think that run around in society especially men that don't train or know how to fight they feel like I'm like guy what do you do for work is like construction I'm like well how's yeah what do you do when you're not in camp? Max Holloway day like? or we just got a roller rink we got a roller rink

1:00:34 now we got a roller rink stupid stuff now we can kind of play around more. if I do miss the gym. Nice to just unwind. Oh yeah, go let me off for like one or two weeks or so and then yeah we just hang out nice to just unwind oh yeah go to the beach just chill or just and just being but he didn't hit us up yet. Down under. You know, it's relaxed, man.

1:02:26 there's only 20 million people. I'm happy they're here, Dollar Taco, baby Nobody speaks English But my point is I was like, whoa. People start moving faster and more aggressive and Also, how fast they talk. Oh, okay. But that's just, you know, you live in Oahu? chilling people people be walking slowly be like oh my gosh people's living it over here they're

1:05:10 I was 11 grade Did you have a MySpace? One of my friends, Birdie Bird. And then people was getting mad when you top eight. It was crazy. It was for the STN Awards That was my 11th grade year It's got to be weird looking at yourself Is it really? Where's my car I really do They wasn't going to let me We couldn't do no... It doesn't have to do with anything.

1:08:17 Yeah, no state flags. That's their own people. I love Hawaii. It's not even attached. But every time I go to Hawaii, I'm like, come on, man. Polynesian. I mean, there's so many people in Hawaii that they're clearly Hawaiian. 101. He might've moved there. Yeah, you never see my hiker holloways? You? Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. That you probably see in there

1:11:18 What you're talking about? Maxis? A little bit The countdown people came They're doing that on purpose. Oh, yeah. fall off your board and uh if mother nature just feels like I'm gonna go throw you three times to that to that wave. Jesus Christ. Look how small his board looked to the wall. God, at him wiping there. Boom. Jesus Christ. And that's a real surfer.

1:14:11 Indoor wave things He's got fucking surfboards so he's uh calling me seeing what i was doing i was able to do him i was in camp so i couldn't A couple hours from here. Maybe three or four. I can't even wakeboard. But you're an athlete. This is so Because you don't have to That's so crazy no sharks right Yeah. It is a good hack. Just stay on it. How much do you think it costs to make one of those things? Oh, a bunch. That's got to be probably good practice. You just need practice. Yeah. Just practice. Just stay on it.

1:16:35 You see the side? It says customers pay $10,000 to surf for an hour. It says you can surf 100 miles inland for $10,000. all the dicks. Maybe you gotta heat it They had Thor surfing there. I'm here to surf. It was a YouTube, so maybe clickbait. That makes more sense. I'll call my friends, see what's up. That was probably for a private – That makes a lot more sense.

1:18:57 it probably costs you $10,000. I've rented out places for my kids. Things are expensive in Hawaii, man. We'll shout you out But it makes sense But they were all telling The folks that live on Lanai Are telling me like Amazon Prime is the shit Is there? Yeah. Crazy. It's probably like, I don't drink milk anymore, but it's probably like $15. You don't have to, because otherwise they have to go to Maui or somewhere, you know,

1:20:09 Like you're in Hawaii Hiker Holloway is a 10 minute video log Yeah. I love playing video games. I wanted to get back in yesterday Mouse keyboard Come on, guy. Those little things, those little Xbox and PlayStation controllers, they're not as accurate. you could tell the difference. I feel like I can really calculate what I'm doing within inches, centimeters.

1:22:21 I used to play online. So I had a T1 line installed in my house. another four hours like and then not screwing up my sleep battling with guys and like it's competitive you know yeah and so that's what that's what i liked And Jeff and I logged in more hours? Playing four hours a day. And then I'd want to play in four or five hours online It's the best though

1:24:49 Oh my gosh Did you see what's his name Of how much he made Oh, he's probably making more now. But he gave it all to a charity. Or something like Yeah I think it's Good that's what we want So opioids That's heavy. showering me and my brother and like, like, just fighting with my mom. And then I see, like, my friends and family, their parents or whatever whatever or even going to high school there uh

1:28:03 what a lot of people Like And then I stay away It's like Yeah Oh yeah that's a bit Smoke weed Smoke weed. I'll be outside. Not only that, What are you doing? You would freak the fuck out Yeah that was a stupid commercial man Supposed to be in I think I think Personally like, supposed to be in, I think, school when they did certain stuff and I always told myself that that's not gonna be me you know

1:31:05 She's like, okay, good. I wanted to play MLB. I trained. Yeah, my friend told- He's like, oh, Max. But I was like, I get to fight and I get it for free? He saw it out. We were sparring already. I was sparring the first day. coach were you going to that asked you if you want to fight on your second day i want he he saw I remember going to school that following Monday.

1:33:22 I already had a fight and I won. for two days. I was only 16. And my mom asked me, are you ready? So she let me fight, and the rest is history. I told them I'm going to be a UFC fighter. From college And I was graduating high school that day. And he was like, ha, ha, ha, ha. And it's a UFC contract to fight Poirier for February 4th. He's like, oh, what's up, Max?

1:35:59 And I told him, oh, no. And he's like, tell me I told you so. and then you went on a crazy streak yeah you went on a crazy winning streak yeah yeah it was crazy connor and then those two fights really meant a lot that time in my career because it it just made me like realize like how I would use Henning Baral and Jose Aldo, and I would do stuff with them.

1:38:26 Yeah. Wow. And he lives on the island as well? he lives on the island we all we all do you ever say hey man you remember you think about your younger brother He was like, yeah, you should start looking into colleges or some type of state job. Yeah, one of my friends, you know, like Michael Nakagawa. Wrestling You know Then blah blah wait, what? in practice.

1:41:11 I'm going to beat him, like, this is, this is how life goes, you know, I was like, I'm probably I thought you was out in the world this attitude though a house and all that stuff but it's just him hard work you know like i remember coming uh He had breakfast made for us And he was like Like I gave up And 15 minute recess Right after high I'm not the smartest kid.

1:43:29 Asking them for help Take my work And I just had to get Like C's on top of my tests to get the grades. Yeah. He didn't want to feel like he owed you. School day, weekday, every morning. Come home from school at 3 o'clock, he stood there drinking his Miller Lite, Well, you know, it's just like You a dumbass kid And it's cool That's him though Well you know It's just amazing

1:45:15 That's why I'm a And I was just like him when I came in. It was only eight years ago. The first fight in Poirier, I remember I was standing. They're like, it's a casino. You're old enough to fight, but you're not old enough to gamble. Genetics. All kinds of, what kind of shit do you do for strength and conditioning? because they don't really like me talking about them.

1:47:44 They don't want people to know. They don't want. You're they don't want uh you're very lucky yeah you're very lucky yeah like 30 seconds you know that's show muscles you know we gotta have gold muscles so i do a The boy got it so easy. doing that in the morning i like i like working i like doing that before uh i like if if i am Because I believe you're getting tired and stuff,

1:50:23 You know what I mean? But you can get mentally stronger or whatever or smarter or whatever. Yeah, all that stuff. I always try to finish fights, no matter what. not there like when you're tired and you're dead tired, Well, that's always been and you went the man's tired i'll never forget that he's tired but you were hyped up it was He couldn't fight that way with you.

1:53:21 I knew that I had. I got to watch him when I was 16. There's a lot of guys that I just think, gosh, I wish I had your power. Yeah, but there's something to be said for the kind of endurance They were like, and I had to do But I'm like, Yeah you just caught a lucky punch Conor's in the back practicing it So it's always gonna be striking thing yeah let's do it you know i just want to show the world that look i'm better than

1:56:10 can ever have the kind of it's just tough their mindsets they turn to like they turn to who get knockout, who has knockout power, their mindsets, mentally fatiguing yourself you start getting tense, It's like, oh my gosh. knock knock hello you thought i left no i'm right here that style that's like colby covington style Just staying on him. They look for it.

1:57:56 And then the next shuffle comes. gas tank too yeah any takedown attempts very energy when you got that is like i said, it's a mental thing. rematch because that you know it's night want to on He's like, it is what it is. He's human just like me and you. And he's the guy there. Even when people are like, oh, you take it so short notice. Craziest. And Manhattan was just staying still already, right?

2:01:38 He should be undefeated. This 12 to 6 elbow rule is dumb. It's an old rule and it was brought together because John McCarthy said that they were They do that too. But anyway, the bottom line is John is undefeated. You know, it's Khabib. khabib's the only one as a champion Is the China girl? She's not on this list. Yeah. Jessica Andrade was a beast.

2:04:03 What happens now? I don't know Yeah I would love that if it's up a couple if you guys want to see me it's real gangstas Follow him on Instagram. That was fun.