Joe Rogan Experience #10088 — Frankie Edgar Transcript

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0:00 Boom. What's up, Frankie? How are you, brother? Good to see you, man. Champ and the tramp. And what's next? bit bigger than me yeah i think so i think he walks around a little heavier he's a little bit And a lot of people were like, well, fuck, man. Both of them? You know? It's such a weird thing, right? turned off, even with Ortega and Chan's Jung fight. Both those fights, even though I got

3:09 Let's get through it. But, yeah, you know, I've never been turned off. It seems to be true. Yeah. And also, when he dropped me, I rolled my ankle really bad, I noticed that even in the gym. Not the second fight, but the second. He was so big. That's crazy. Why should I go down? What more can I gain from here? Yeah. I mean, you can't go back, you definitely would against BJ, right? Yeah.

6:22 Things went the way they went. And the second one, too. Out of all the guys that I've ever seen fight, I've never seen anybody who controls people with their legs the way BJ does. Yeah. No, he's an incredible athlete. Because when you're in his guard, those legs would come up and just pinch you down. So I was hanging out with BJ. Yeah, yeah. But a fighter fighting, it's like a basketball player having a pickup game.

9:01 Yeah, tough motherfuckers in Hawaii. I know He went out Having the guys back his head off the ground, died. Can you imagine a wrestler, like a Yoel Romero fucking suplexing you on the street? I'm like, oh, God. You ever see photos of him when he was in high school? Yeah, he was the biggest physical freak I think I've ever seen. Sand. I thought he decapitated him.

11:36 Yeah. this dude's the man come on he knows i don't know how you fucking spelled that correctly but Let's see. Tyrone Spong is from there. Is he? Johnson Tyron tested positive too He hits fucking hard, and he's a savage. Turkish Tyson, right? Gohan Saki. Left hook to the body, left hook to the head, left hook to the body. When you stop back and think about your first fights in the UFC, when you first got started,

14:56 The wrestlers always did well You've seen him? It's amazing that I'm 18 years older than some of these kids. I don't want to lose fights to guys I think I should be able to beat, That was a very good fight. When you think about your preparation like Yeah, he's a special guy. They stay in Moscow for a couple days. I never knew Dagestan was a place until I heard of Khabib.

17:49 the wrestler I think he won and that's that area. You see Will Harris' films? Yeah. Will Harris' production. Shout out to Will. Yeah, Will's the man. hard people, man. Yeah. You see that basketball game that they play? You see Will Harris' films? He's a great guy. Yeah, he's a huge guy. It seems like they might have invented it, right? it with basketball hoops so i guess that's that's a little different well will said that that's how

19:55 Yeah, it's fun. They have no distractions. No, I've always did all my camps in Jersey. I know. And I just wanted to be home. up in big bear it's like something about a camp that's very attractive, too. Someone thinking, oh, he's locked down in camp. That's why people come to me now. It's cool to see all these young guys come and train with us. But I've been in the UFC.

22:50 But, I mean, honestly, if I was being straight up, where do I want to finish my career? I mean, you just fought Max Holloway. He got me with a good shot. you know and Christmas was right here how many weeks I thought I was going to go there, put this dude away, and come home and enjoy Christmas. connor's probably the worst guy because he's gonna tell everybody about it everybody's gonna want to

24:59 We didn't know much about Conor, I feel like, at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, he was so fucking athletic. I know when we fought the first time, he threw a leg kick, and then I took him down on it Oh, man. I've seen him juggle the ball and whatnot. They're running up and running back Those legs would just crack. Some injury. His daughter's got like 30 fights already or something.

27:59 Yeah. Well, yeah. You ain't waiting for shit. And I got that. Yeah A little bit Yeah. God damn. They do it in the U.S. now. And it's just a radical anti-inflammatory. Like he's worried someone's going to accidentally bump into him. love to just be like a pin cushion but it'll get me everywhere well they can do crazy shit now but cover a surgery but the surgery is 30 grand i always wonder like what's the politics

32:25 Those people are awful. They think of CBD as an untested drug. Right. I take it. I always feel pretty good. Yeah, oh yeah. I think Paul Bantello I'm like no shit like what the fuck like what is happening to me how is this guy not tired it didn't make sense I mean, I would have loved to have seen Stipe versus Kane when Stipe wouldn't, if Kane was in his prime.

35:15 I've got good cardio and I could push always. going i think everyone gets tired because then you see some guys that you know are really really Yeah. Especially after the That first round In Marlon's face as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. When Marlon Edson came into camp, my legs hurt for a good couple months. he could wheel kick and do all that stuff because i think it's just he was doing since he's a kid

37:50 Marlon, ooh, oh, ooh. I do hot. There's no bullshit. Just sit down Me and my wife Say it's too hot say it's too hot. Well, there's more guys in my place now. All I'm thinking about is concentrating on maintaining a steady breath it's definitely good for you oh my god you can lose amazing amounts of weight in there. But I just think for maintaining strength in your joints and strength,

40:36 Yeah, I feel like it tightens all your connections up. It's like for a mixed martial artist, there's so many skills to concentrate on. I'll wrestle Wednesday and Friday, And when you do it So do you do it the same day? So you give yourself a chance to recover You know Jersey's a commuter state Yeah, predictable traffic. I didn't even realize Mondrian

42:59 When someone says something wrong I'll set it up. Get to Ricardo's for like 10 a.m. practice, 9.30 practice. Were so connected to the Gi We're gonna have to do It's great for defense You've got to have a good position. Yeah. Right, right. long time people got so connected to this idea that you need to do the gi in order to be good Yeah. in an MMA fight

46:35 we don't in my jiu jitsu class How much time are you in your car? Yeah, I drive it for the demo. Those things are beasts. That's a good Italian guy in Jersey car, too. Yeah, it's perfect. I got a little stage two tune on it and stuff. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. It can move. It moves. That's a fast car. Yeah. So that's where we do a lot of our sparring.

48:13 When I first started, I graduated college. in, uh, in, in near my town, so I called him up, I knew him through wrestling, he's like, he's like, the time you know how how quickly ufc or mma changed martial arts. Forever. It's like, what the fuck, man? I mean, 2005 was when The Ultimate Fighter was on, right? He is. He is. His head split open with the head kick.

51:06 against guys like all over Diego's face I think Yeah. but I think they should reorganize the weight classes and put weight classes every 10 pounds. They just should move some of these weight classes around. I seen him, you know, after he made it. Yeah, man. He's like 6'2". He's got a quiet demeanor, too, you know? And, like, I was talking to Mark about him, and he's like, dude, this was, like, back

53:53 In their last fight Great jab That jab is by me Might be one of the best jabs in the UFC His fucking right hand too And Calvin started coming on a little bit. Calvin was digging to the body a lot, too. He's got great hands, Calvin. He does a lot of training with boxers. He's just beginning to get into the top tier of guys. was putting it on him he was at that point and when zabit took him down the 30 basically just

55:12 There's a lot of killers there, too, but you'll be a bigger guy. So slow down, George. There's only two... said he didn't cody's actually uh training with us now too oh is he yeah oh that's a good move for How to make sure he's more protected and make sure he's more elusive, more difficult to read. Yeah, he's fast as fuck. But all three of those fights, I mean, he was in them.

57:48 Yeah. Yeah. Even for the ladies. I don't know. I think we sought them out, they sought me out type thing. yeah now when they have these ufc gyms do they have uh like sparring classes jiu-jitsu Yeah. I heard he has amazing pizza. It's in Woodbridge, New Jersey. Yeah he's got like And you know And that's when we started So what was it like going from just straight wrestling to learning how to strike and wrestle together?

1:01:31 into boxing growing up. I was always into fighting. You know, jerseys, you know, I'm Yeah. the ticks have it. And she does the IV treatments, the sunlight therapy. She's a kind of holistic-ish type person. and then you just don't know you have it and then if you don't get on medicine right away, Have you ever heard of Morgellons? And we had some – one of the conversations I had was with a doctor who has Lyme disease.

1:04:18 that are attached to Lyme disease And he realized, okay, this is probably what Morgellons is. And she went through a period where she was always tired. Yeah. I don't know. See, that's you, that's these mentally tough guys Well, Marcus Davis Yeah. Not that much. I think he was like four or five Jesus Christ I've heard that people get sick when they get the flu shot.

1:07:24 I don't take flu shots. No, hell no. yeah but i i think they do work if you get lucky yeah the right the idea that lyme disease was a biological warfare weapon that uh accidentally got released Yeah. I mean bad He'd just been dealing with Someone has it. Here it is. It's sort of unproven, but there are some people, I believe, that think that this is a thing.

1:10:55 had been done in the U.S. government facilities Yeah, it is. Yeah. Alpha Galactos it does something I think Yeah, the first cases of it were there in 1975. Giant pits filled with anthrax. Yeah. The suggestions are online. Oh, of course. with Conor. respond right uh you're a very entertaining guy i like you a lot and uh i appreciate the props Conor's a fucking super explosive guy

1:13:55 rocked him. They broke his nose. Mike Bisping was like, fucking shoulder strikes. fight the shoulder strikes definitely got him off on the wrong foot then cowboy threw a kick to He got smashed. He is as tough as they come. This is not his wheelhouse. when he's criticizing basketball players, though. Yeah, but the show he was on, it's like every day he's respected for sure yeah yeah but that's the show

1:17:14 Because Teddy Atlas is like, Conor McGregor made the best chef in the world be a fucking fast food cook. No, you could just talk about what Conor did that was so special. Like you remember when no one was throwing front kicks to the face. I don't remember anybody ever But even teeps to the face Saw a guy get knocked out Yeah. But now everybody throws those kicks.

1:19:46 But this, where your shoulder, the top of your shoulder, that's fucking hard. shots there's a lot of power behind it there's a lot of explosion connor dipping his level and kind of faking it he's pretending like he's fine but he's not inside i'm freaking the fuck out they played that before i hear that song i think about you yeah man i started uh 2009 when i fought shirk it was the

1:21:49 Ready to die While I was doing this sitcom Yeah, he's- Yeah, that's crazy, right? Isn't that crazy that Pac put so much shit down? yeah you're right you know like legitimately they're going to be able to do that in the future I heard it, I didn't listen to it myself, but I heard it's not bad. It's like a lot of artists Right And his voice Yeah, it's just so hard to believe when someone like Chris Carnell

1:24:52 Yeah. It's, I don't know, man. Marlon Marais He's been doing F45 Yeah, he's doing a lot of Muay Thai. Is weed legal in New Jersey now? Oh anxiety These guys do this stuff I love it. for your endurance you know and when you when you would train how much of you did you do any You know, I just, actually, Todd Frazier, who's actually on my podcast, Reset performance recovery?

1:27:55 It's RPR. down flat before i did the test i pretty much couldn't stop and then i did the test he almost I know for sure that deep tissue work does a lot, right? control like because like i can do the the same pressure that someone would tickle me but it's Like you feel something on you, like, ah! say you gotta breathe breathe why hold your breath by because like you're in the middle of the woods

1:30:29 Well, does that drive you crazy when you hear corners that don't give good advice? Go out there and kick his ass. his mom it's like because he knew he didn't need technique he needed some motivation at that point Yeah. suhudo was willing to fight especially su. Especially Suhudo at 35, right? Yeah. I guess they do because it keeps them out there. It's entertaining

1:32:55 Colby Covington I mean you can't not be good Kept him on board. of that character cheap suits he fucking figured it out But he's not being And whatnot And you know he thought from the beginning that he had a giant advantage over cowboy yeah you know like if you go You look in his eyes, you just see nothing but doom. Isn't that? When the fucking, they have a video of the streets, the streets of Dagestan.

1:35:48 fight coming up with him and tony ferguson i am so interested in that fight that's a crazy fight He helps him in his jiu-jitsu. He builds the fucking, he mats the rooms. he does headstands and stuff. Want stenosis? No he does on his own Yeah And he's lapping them Khabib won't fight him. Do you think that fight, Conor-Khabib will be big? And he's so polarizing.

1:39:10 There's been guys that have go in there and fight him And the fact that it was this sort of crossover fight James Toney Oh, really? Randy Couture in his prime. It was so crazy He loved it, loved competing Yeah, maybe. What is Tim Sylvia going to do? That's scary, Tim Sylvia. When I was wrestling in my junior Your brother fought in UFC He was one of the first real high-level jiu-jitsu guys in the heavyweight division.

1:42:05 Coaching wrestling? Got him strong and just dealt with it? Find out if that's a fact LCL tears Right No. I would have tried stem cells first, I think. Dude, crazy. That's amazing. I was like, you look great. Well, I mean, they inject the stem cells intravenously. brain like how's that working yeah that's wild like what yeah what is it doing tracks i guess

1:45:19 Me too. Yeah Usman had If you call it a sports hernia He gets mad at you Because it's not a sports hernia It's a core muscle injury Damn. We went to the same guy, too. This guy, Dr. Myers. He actually invented the surgery. Whoa. You do physical therapy the day you get out. didn't eat anything. Cause I, I mean, I had to park my car and walk to the damn doctor and was

1:46:52 Jesus. I was like, damn. I didn't eat This is a motherfucker It must be tendons, yeah. so I was getting tears everywhere. It's six weeks later. I fought that May. When are your balls going to look like that again? Imagine one dude specializing in one. Does that sound right? Why do you say it? Groin disruption. Ah. Also known as groin disruption. Yeah, sportsman. Pool ball gear. Pool ball. What does it mean? What does pool ball gear mean? Groin disruption.

1:49:50 But he told me it's not a sports hernia. Polypropylene or polyester mesh is suggested to correct the identified abnormality. and then all these guys have it. Literally, they go through probably by my pubes. I'm like Take it out bit of a meniscus or a little bit of the balls disc yeah yeah they cut it out but it worked And you're good to go. I fucking love that thing.

1:52:40 You put that thing, You pump it up, and it gets tight to your head, and then you can control the amount of resistance when you turn, right? one of them harnesses on which is you know does something but a lot of doctors will tell you that Just natural movements. So, you're going to have more control and it's probably going to protect it more. head snapped as easy you're going to be able to withstand much more impact you know it's they

1:55:33 Say his last name again? Jolly. I love it. That thing's the shit. Come down, put it in here. With that on too Do you ever use the A wheel It's it a wheel. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think it's crazy. No. What? Very cool What does that thing do Oh, the belt on. Yeah. because they told him that he needed to get his disc fused. Sometimes I feel like I wait until my back hurts to use it.

1:59:08 other way. I love it. That's my favorite, where you hang by your waist. and then you just drop down, I feel like if I'm real consistent with that with that and the um the inversion deck you already know how to fight like you know how to fight and the real thing that fucks with guys Condition's never been an issue for me. you're not going to have a good performance that day.

2:02:09 That's the good thing about strength and condition. That's like the Pavel Tatsalin idea, that you don't ever go to failure and those kind wow, I hope this guy's right. um you know tabata drills and things like that for strength and conditioning and then there's So what kind of stuff does he have you doing? and hold breath holds. I'm trying to remember right now

2:04:44 But as a guy guy would never get Just because of making sure that you have better technique? like i'm trying to pull it out make sure you keep it pressed pressed on the floor so i can't pull it I just don't have somewhere super close to me. Apparently, ice bath is really good, too. My wife has like a little teepee sauna Right I mean, I don't know about infrared sauna because I've never really done that.

2:07:07 Yeah, that's nuts. Feels like it at least. They jump in the water, cold water. He's tough, man. That's where Rory is now, huh? Yeah, he was at Bellator, right? beat him in the rematch got a big offer they could do that for how do they do that? yeah that's a lot of money it's Kevin Hart behind it is he? for people who win? Like if you win the tournament? Yeah, and there were like seven people won in the last end.

2:08:51 Yeah, pretty sure. I don't know where he has I do a lot of stuff, but it's not hard. Yeah, there's some preparation. Forcing yourself to go to the gym. I need a fucking hobby. I gotta go with Corey when he came here Yeah well let's How to find you You'll be back again All right, brother. It gets rough at the end.