Joe Rogan Experience #10117 — Marlon "Chito" Vera Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience The arms are easy. The elbow hurts a lot like the inside the elbow that shit hurts a lot Leg is awful? was tattooing he's touching your balls and i was just thinking this is painful this is awkward i was just like thinking about like Not for you, but for some people. This guy called Mark Nava. I've been lucky. Most of my tattoos, you know,

3:26 guy in in around in costa mesa area then my back mr cartoon having a back piece like your back Come on, dude. And basically, he wasn't tattooing during the pandemic. I guess he can chill at this point, right? Yeah. Does he have you're high right do you feel it more? Oh, I was. I have. More. Yeah, man. Thank God it's done. Sean Shelby said that? I was like, hey, I'm going to be in the UFC for a long time.

7:13 it's not easy no you lose your fucking head yeah think about how many fights fell off and you gotta I don't hate him He's newer, too. It's been quite a few years. I can't fucking do it anymore. Cha-ching. Good for him. Who wouldn't be around was off his shoulders. a full camp and a weight cut as an alternate, just in case. bad on the body already weight cuts are like taking punch to the jaw yeah you have so many

9:36 Oh, I'm sorry. It's weird when you have, have like a thought in your head. I'm late training early mornings. Like he did a great blah, blah, blah. Maybe. That's why fighters like that, they should walk away. he's amazing and and he's had some rough knockouts man think about the rumble knockout anthony jason Yeah, well, there's levels, man. when they hear, like, hey, you might be fighting this day.

12:07 trained the whole time and there's some people not on me Did you see that one? is. fuck off. I think it was like 15, 16 days out, something like that. get better right you just get your mind set you listen to your head coach your body should be But that's why he have a great first round. That's right. I'm with Parillo. And that's one thing I add from him

15:32 I'm thinking. like fast, like 12 miles per hour, two minutes. there's no, it's almost done. But the other one, in the the championship rounds is going to show. You got to keep doing. That's why I'm winning. Nothing. I was fighting on the street the homeless kids that they clean shoes for money or they still they sell like chiclets or cigarette my brother used to call these kids giving couple bucks to fight me for fun like the like the fucking circus and

18:25 no we just fight okay okay whatever My dad had a farm since I remember. I was doing it for fun. So you enjoyed it? I got three kids. Unless California goes crazy. Oh, you blend right in. It's still my soul. Zero. My mom came home. Straight knuckles in my face. They paid for the month. Jab crosses, pin to the stomach. It's really good. Like right away,

23:03 I haven't stopped training. You're a dumbass. And I focused on Jiu-Jitsu to become a fighter. He came from the times like when Marcelo Garcia, Galbao, why did he decide to go to Ecuador I have no idea he just came one day and never left wow He's like, fuck off, kid. And people used to laugh about it. I was coming twice a day, until this day. wait a minute.

26:20 GSP Josh Kocik. I'm a nerd. second one yes it was the second one yeah i watched the first one oh that's the one that Decision. It should be because the first one was a small one. That one was crazy. Pride FC. When did you have and this guy came like, She signed it. Puzzle mats. There's no locker room. All grown men with tattoos looking mean. I didn't do shit.

30:36 boil it, put it in my mouth, and kitu is like just like me Mexico City, it's high altitude. Just keep taking him down. there's no feeling like that. And since that day, Like my girlfriend, which is my wife now, she knew, like, I was, like, it was fighting. and I started training with them in the MMA class in the mornings. Like, the technique back then was, like, high kick back on four.

33:17 was the jiu-jitsu was legit people were winning in Brazil people were winning in the u.s in the panams in the world but mma was that was like a full-on class technique, you do this, you have to do that. But it was just the old days. a kid that wanted to do that it was just like what is that ufc oh cage fighting oh awesome so you we basically figured it

35:26 Yeah. So I was like, fuck, I'm training with all these people. was what did he think they were doing wrong he was just make sure he controlled everything so if i I need to get out of Ecuador. He would play tricks, play mind games. hooked up with the wrong coach it was my first mma coach that's why i get hooked with him and i I know, yeah, but those learning experiences, thank God, happened early.

38:41 Get super mad about it. Yeah, because I was defending my old coach instead of like listen to to them when he said he wanted hooked so whatever he say I have to accept it but then now that I'm here so you realize what a good one's like. you are also an idiot for letting it happen to you. Well, some people just get emotionally connected to a manager go with the real camp and they had one strategy that was winning for a while but there's these

40:34 There's a few guys that have a technique that they just did over and over and over and over and over and over. It was a rare moment. Catch everybody in the guillotine. Yeah. And then the first time I lost in the UFC, I threw like three triangles. And I was like, weird. Number one, that time. Yeah yeah the first Latin American yes so you're selected to go to the ultimate

42:45 to contact every single promoter in South America, tell them I will fight for free just because I explode I was like me because After this, you find a real job, you work for me, or you leave the house. You either work or you're fucked. And I hit the curve. to figure it out the rest and he told me december December 1st game, kid. You're done. I'm going to make it.

45:57 The smile on her face just make my day. Six months? And I really thought I won the fight. fuck, I made all this, and I'm a fucking loser. to stay with a guy that wasn't making a fucking dime, a very close fight it was a very close fight it It was a very close fight. It was early, too. Wow. I was like, fuck, I want to make this happen. than being in the ufc i was like i cannot have fun yet by achieving my dream of being here i need to

49:26 It's hard to fight but that helped me it's a little lower, He told my mom, hey, something about cancer. so does that translate hey there's a doctor scared he's telling told my mom something's wrong with his blood and I How much did you have to abandon of, like, the way you fought before? I was lost a real professional in the stomach I was like, I wasn't,

52:09 in every single practice and he's like blah blah blah, blah. Oh, shit. I look at him at the eye Jiu-Jitsu class, tap like a fucking clapper. coming so two and a half months and you start to see a change a little bit a little bit at least i I was new there. it's hard to get better when you're getting fucked up like people don't realize that boxing has a very smart strategy they match you up carefully until they get you prepared for a

55:25 the title shot and the ufc it's like they get to make the call and if they call you up and they say And I mean, I don't know if he's still eating fish, but he certainly was at one point in time. Look what he's done look at he's done i a lot of protein we've been together I've been eating right when it's in your mouth Really? in the neighborhood of 20 pounds yeah yeah and what do you weigh like the week

58:48 Well, it's just, I think the UFC needs two things to happen. I think I keep one of the better diet outside. because it doesn't make any sense. You're gone. sure you observe it and i'm not a doctor so you have to drink it slowly they are yeah but when My face looks normal again. that's what I'm drinking when I'm done. If I'm not eating that out of camp, what makes you think that's a way to recover?

1:02:41 hey, I'm ready to die. and then you have to, like, I fight anybody But I'm healthy too. Like when you show up on fight day, you're definitely depleted because of the weight cut. full stomach right put socks on be most likely little down then you pull back up but if you go to bed on time and you have a clean lifestyle something and that's what kobe bryant always says yeah by the time you and your opponent are about

1:06:31 the wave shocks or steams i do a lot of hyperbaric chamber for the head a lot how often do you do minutes as well they have some that only do like one and a half atmospheres the they would go scuba diving. one, phase two, it's just the huge metal ones. It's game changer. why are we not using this in america this is kind of crazy it improves your endurance when i

1:08:53 She keeps the heart rate going. makes my cardio much better and also like if i'll take time off I love it out. a barrel sauna Cool grass, stare at the stars. you just let it go scan with my phone yeah but it feels so good It's humbling. The ocean's humbling, too. I went to Hueco last week and surfed. surf with pros, I can tell they move Kelly once and I'm like, holy shit.

1:12:09 Yeah. It's so strange. Am I playing tricks on me? man when i had snoop here on the podcast recently. This is my first one. We'll get blasted together. I'm the same person. your mind is just going well when you eat a little more than you should you should be alone McKinley McKinney? Oh the mushroom guy. Yeah the mushroom guy. Yeah, yeah over a period of 2 million years.

1:16:07 and it made people ingest more protein doubling in size because of what they think of as a party drug the problem is a lot of these guys I mean, we talk about climate change today, sources and one of the things that they believe happened is they've seen monkeys in the wild they I take like the blurriness the fogginess goes away it cleans up they recognize

1:18:58 when the edge detected consistently. over a period of 2 million years, and their fucking brains grew. when I'm alone. working in your brain. microdosing that's one thing you're you're taking earth and wild shit and you know yeah do you have but you have seeing like the apocalyptic doom of the earth and wild shit not a while ago before I smoked it There's a lot that comes with it.

1:22:14 And I just take a rip. like the trippy pictures yeah when i was going in the elevator up i was going like on circles up And then I didn't saw my grandfather face, it just gives me that like calmness. People get so trapped in little thoughts, on little daily things. on what somebody says Yeah, myself in the last few years i don't read at all like if my friends like if i see a friend of mine

1:25:16 Sometimes their criticism is valid. I'm not I want to be a better fighter. I'm a different person if I haven't had sleep. able to know whether you're fucking up and how to get better and that's exactly what separate you and always work for more and for better, but for yourself. Forget about it. It's like normal for people. Yeah. That's what people do man if i was online at 15 i would be talking shit about everybody my if you would be sending everybody pictures of my dick if you see my twitter when

1:28:28 so it's like getting in fights or for somebody else O'Malley, Sean. He's just a persona. I don't make it too hard to say, Hey, he said you're slow. Of course. sometimes cock and confidence This is not like let's bow to each other. I know, he drives me crazy. I know one personally, Santiago. Yeah, Colby Covington in real life is a great guy. I was like, you're very nice.

1:31:31 But when you are in the cage. I'm not mad. It's just my you. Right. But I'm not out of my head. I'm not mad. After the fight, win, lose, or draw, hey, good job. Oh, right, right. That's a rough one, man. Well, it's not just the judges suck. And then when they go 30, 27, they're away. eating me with elbows yeah who won the round the guy on the bottom it should be it should be right

1:34:04 nuts all over your face for five minutes good for him good for him that's what he's doing but there is also that holy shit oh What? You might have taken it down or something. I don't know. I always It's so wrong they don't pull that out on everything he put the wokesters have not done school rap the good one oh my god like go listen to some 90s wu-tang clan or fucking cool g-rap

1:36:11 Gravel Pit. There's something about 90s rap to me that's like it was it's also the excitement of and the first time I heard NWA, I was like, hard on that one oh yeah the cops were coming to the fucking shows to stop it yeah i know it's But it's like there's eras in time where things just changed. I love those eras. My God. Who did that? God, what is the artist's name?

1:39:37 So he did like an ad, and he's talking about how he gambled during the fights. If you put $600 You picket gamble, whatever the fuck. Why don't I date Spanish women? No. Love Spanish women. Joey Diaz luck. Then the round ends. They're my fucking, you know, That chick hasn't eaten in two days. And guess what? Is that a gambling sponsor? this is right like because i'd be calling the fights but i'd be gambling on yeah it's kind of

1:43:40 And so I would tell him. This weekend. You can never underestimate an opponent. mentally said you know prepare to die fuck you I'm gonna take this from you the moment you take the Good luck with that. But when they were exchanging punches, you can tell how much Amanda was charging. it's unexcusable to be that tired in the second round. when you know how mental is the game yeah you can have all the technique all the power the moment

1:47:17 quitting was caused for the duck and the other person too it was caused by juliana yeah juliana crazy that joke wasn't on choke wasn't on at all it was on the chin right it was see let's find But that requires a lot of strength. Juliana said I'm gonna bring her back to what it was like when she was younger and All the videos I'm looking at are just pictures.

1:49:24 It is this listen to the volume too because we're going crazy me and dc were going nuts i love it When you say that, I was cranking out. not deep I live another day. You know, he hid the hand behind the head, and he got that ultimate leverage, too, from that. you wouldn't end on top. and he grabbed the fence and he got KO'd right after, that would change a lot.

1:51:24 I think they should take a point off every time someone pokes an eye, every time someone The thing is, guys with the big gloves in Muay Thai style, they're doing this all the time. They're motherfuckers closed the thing is guys with the big gloves in Bro, she should be cut. horrible you you literally can't do that you you will blind someone i mean imagine if you got like

1:52:59 Here, I'm going to send it to him right now. She got her back. She did it twice she literally keeps trying oh my god she did it twice she Defeated you she got herself in a better position She submitted you you were about to tap and you stuck your fucking thumb in her eyeball Horrible. Not only that, miss weight. If I'm the referee, I start punching her.

1:55:11 They do wild shit and they regret it afterwards. I mean, like, as a person who is doing this for a living, you know there are certain things that can happen to you that can ruin your life. Yeah. Just from regular fights. But Juicy Vitor in the UFC fucked so many people. my boy Luke he was calling Vitor got off the TRT and sell it for a couple bucks extra it looked like the air was gone you know when you when you

1:58:00 You were taking advantage of the system. Exactly. it's still cheating. That's important. You need hard training you need discipline. They always are closing then the higher you go in the rankings That's why he's a champion. guy you know his knees are fucked up which is great and he's open about it you know he tells And he just fight. It's just gone.

2:00:44 I've seen his video on Jon Jones, and I've seen his video on Paulo Costa. I mean, this is his, you know, he's explaining. If you have some money you're going to spend there, you can find a way to do it. about i don't know if it's true i don't it could be genetics it could i mean look francis is all genetics francis and And I started grabbing him. And I was grabbing him. I'm like, are you fucking real? But I got like, tell me, stop, stop, stop. And I was grabbing him,

2:02:56 And I was like, fight with seo gone that's a serious fight that's a serious fight that's after kain era this is the His cardio was crazy. He was able to throw head kicks, move side to side. when people talk about if it's Fedor people get so full Conor fights and won they put him right there i'm like guys before Right. That motherfucker was invincible for a long time.

2:04:57 They have a statue for Rocky Balboa. every weekend and I also think but it fucking You won. And that's also happened with the rankings, Right. But how we because of the later fights. Yeah, that's a goat. there's more than mm-hmm and now hurt me And came back and beat a legitimate world champion in Bisping. fuck him up from the bottom. Because he kept training.

2:08:16 Ah, nice. a guy who is a professor at Columbia, Yeah, no, and the way he teaches And I'm a fucking moron. Never happened never and in in in a place like you need to I know. What do you think's going to happen? beat him but but now he's gonna train he better oh he will i'm yeah i know for a fact but And I was talking to him, like, what happened with all the antibiotics he took.

2:12:13 He just created it. Yeah. Oh, colloidal silver. It works good against bacteria and viruses. Yeah? Yeah. what I'm curious. What is colloidal silver supposed to do if you take it under your tongue? It kills, it's not, Well, for like 10 seconds I took whatever the fucking thing says this guy went off on colloidal silver. That's like two droppers a day

2:13:53 Yeah, look at that. Look how crazy that one looks on the right. But how much it was taking, like a full bottle a day you have to take like a stupid amount look right the one that I take Oh that bottle looks wrong Well there's a problem And what's not legit What does that mean? Silver salve. He suffered from heart problems for years, heavy smoker, How old was he when he died?

2:16:40 That's a bad combination. You got to separate the females from the males. They raid my garden. It will hurt him, but he will come charging at me. I can give you some jerky. I got some jerky here. I would give you some food. Oh, you know what I can give you? I can give you some jerky. Yeah, liver's great. and ground elk Everybody that I know I do whatever you want.

2:18:43 I'm like, come on, take me. He's the one that sells all the liver and everything. Yeah, which is, I don't know, what does that mean? I'm interested in that. You want to do it. Then once I did it, I was like, oh, I'm doing this from now on. I like the skillet because feels more like one I was like bro is this right can you guys teach me to your friends you feel even more happy it'll take it to the next level guaranteed 100 i'm gonna

2:22:52 I've been cooking lately a lot over hardwood fires. Oh, really good. He's a great coach time I cook on it, Parillo cooks really good, too. Does he? Or really good. It's like I was doing so much for little reward. work on these bags and do this work on the tire work on the wall i'm posting a lot like me working on No Yeah. and then you're like okay you figured it out do you have a muay thai coach like who works with

2:26:21 Because some coaches before, when I'm hitting hitting meat, they tell me what to throw. Right. But putting that into a real fight is a different animal. so sometimes when you're eating meat everybody looks like canelo when he's eating meat right but RDA have a great run with him. I was in a point that I was like, I'm winning fights, and I'm feeling a little short in some decisions.

2:27:59 I throw my punches and my kicks. He just give you a little better base so you can kick even more. In the debut grand final, he sliced him open from the standard. thing that sometimes i feel like when if i go to a kickboxing coach like he can improve my kicks I just feel right now, to my ear? tighten up technique. you this site because I love psychics yeah I'm spinning will because I throw a

2:30:29 I did the boxing. Oh, for sure. If you don't uplift me, where he's talking Like, You know, it's so hard to see when someone makes excuses, and you try to talk to them and say, hey, man, you can't think like this, and then they go right back to it. A hundred. come my rip during my feet right that's a excuse you lose you lose just take it like a man If you have an excuse again, you...

2:33:14 him just put pressure on and then the third fight I mean he did Deontay had And you should almost like if you have power, you should train like you don't. Canelo has everything he's got power and he's got ridiculous defense the ways oh my god everything he does everything he does he for a minute is pimping yeah the best to watch. homeboy's eye. His whole face.

2:35:00 Bro, he's a killer. Right. So that's what keeps him alive. I don't know that one. Just by being a Russian, you're already tough. See if you feel like a highlight, because I want to see him in real time. We'll see if you could google that to that's the real prime and I'm pretty sure they're all knockouts. It's a KO. Not in five years. Bitterbeef is terrifying.

2:38:59 And most guys, lately, they wrestle me. And that's the part I'm working with this other guy from Fresno State, power strength you know we use kettlebells bulgarian sandbags we squat a lot i'm a squat It's either four in the morning or late at night. Because I think about things. But then I work every morning with Parillo, Monday through Friday in the morning.

2:41:09 because Hafa has been coming like I come back to the gym and we were doing Nogi just me and teach me. But half has been making a comeback to the gym Sometimes he's like, let's just drill. was in the gi sometimes I shoot I was I don't know how he do it he do some crazy shit like that sometimes I feel like Specialist and you realize how many layers there are and how many levels there are sometimes I bring MMA gloves like the puffy ones

2:43:24 triangle at the end of the fight. Nice. myself if i move to cali one day i want to turn with the mendes bros nice and they're being there I train every morning with Perrillo. I said to myself, I want to be a world champion. Yeah. I don't believe in like breaks or stuff like that. Like a Manny Bang next. Yeah, it's a Russian guy. route most like in February so and the good thing about it is like since the

2:46:19 It was surreal. I feel too good nervous I was ready to fight. No. I told myself I told myself MSG card for you record like yeah with me it was a fight that I definitely lose a fight on getting my back taken, but I wasn't getting... And it's only four, five, and six available. He emptied that one as a wrap. What does he weigh when he walks around, do you think?

2:49:35 Yeah. He looked like a fucking murderer. Zero. Marlon Marais is a straight up killer. When he knocked out Jimmy Rivera with that switch kick to the head and then the same shit to Aljamain. Right, but why? I've been saying this for years, He quits. I was there. got it too. He's got it. I'm going to Well, that's a good way to think because they're in your wheelhouse.

2:52:10 And if it's any other guy, Yeah, that's Houston. I believe so. Oh, so there are of my thoughts. Send location. no you won't you won't so that's why like myself i'm on it the whole time because there's not many I want to run. lot that comes with that so first is Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.