Joe Rogan Experience #10144 — Jared Cannonier Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience I'm still, like, in shock. It was beautiful. It was a direct mirror image of Leon Edwards' kick. Oh, man. everybody's excited does it as a fighter does that affect you well absolutely you You know, for some it isn't. You know, although it's not that big, it's not as big. That's that thing, man. the ufc did they just made their own gym and they made their own arena yeah a little intimate arena

4:09 I've used it a few times, but I don't really get up there too often. Has anybody else done that and been as successful as you? and gotten down to become an elite middleweight? Like what he wound up in, I think that's the correct weight class with weight cutting. I think a lot of us middleweights walk around in light heavyweight or above the light heavyweight.

5:57 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's doing 205. just start to change your diet? Hell yeah, I could. But six weeks to be the, you know, is the general consensus for fight camps. So I change from eating less red meat for sure. as long as and then cut the weight during fight week. No, I absolutely do not. and try to cut so much? No weight cutting. But it seems like a crazy edge to agree to yeah

10:45 he took Anderson down he got caught a triangle and got beat up but he was the closest I saw then you're putting it back in. there's some left-weight shit. that's why middleweight welterweight. I ran into Anthony Rumble Johnson in a hotel lobby, But you couldn't believe how big he was. Probably not. I don't know what the full date is, Yeah. No bullshit in them.

13:54 Do you have like a meal service to use? and it writes it down, 50 grams of carbs. Because Fedor used to fight you out of big belly. I was listening to, God, I can't remember who was talking about it Because he just, no matter what, in the heat of battle, just stone-faced. look at the compression there yeah I mean look at how he's landing there Okay.

16:26 Right? Do you like the idea of that? crazy. that was beautiful Hold on, his legs. I got him. I got him. These are fucking hard shots. Damn. No. of the UFC. extended it. Some guys can. Because the generations, they change in terms of like there's of the skill set. yeah and those people that fought in those things had nothing to look at first. I mean, respect to the pioneers, like the Hoyce Gracies and the Ken Shamrocks and the Dan Severins and Don the Predator Fries.

20:22 They just knew that they had it. No, it was before Spike. There was so much suppression. So when you saw your first- I was in Alaska when I first started watching? Yeah. So when you saw your first. and she had this uh ecuadorian a shaolin ecuadorian a shaolin monk from ecuadoria right At that time, again, I was transitioning from college to the Army.

23:09 And even as a kid, you know, watching all the kung fu movies, the Ninja Turtles is big. I think it goes like one to four or five or something like that. And it was one of the best times I had in the military, you know, My technique wasn't able to get it done. So I took second place by points in that one. That's what I wanted to do throughout my military career.

25:58 But usually it's separate. Okay. And a person with really good elbows can do that. You should have them at least practicing elbows. Yeah. Don't teach them taekwondo. Some dudes, when you watch elbow masters, Ben throws some nasty elbows in sparring. Yeah. That was the last fight I think that was the last That fight was insane. he was at his prime yeah and that fight is like a great example of it what year was that boom god i'm

29:56 Apparently, that's what I keep hearing. You know? and then became the champ in the UFC, Last event they had. After that knockout? quantifying you know what we're actually doing with ourselves. Yeah. Focusing on combining all this stuff and progressing it to the level. trials and trial and error and type stuff like that you know how science works right you get a

33:56 You're never going to be able to quantify. It's a really interesting argument. do everything the best all-around fighter he'd do everything ever and he was a ghost he was in front He fought Pat Militech in an MMA fight that I watched. It really is. my wife. And so we relocate up there. And as soon as I get up there, I mean, there's And I trained judo for about a month and a half, two months, and tried to pick up as much as I

38:04 I'm like 300 pounds, you know what I mean, training and stuff. and I wanted to get in shape first, One thing led to another. Yeah, I just joined in with them. uh i just threw myself in i couldn't do it at first because of work and stuff like that when you had to convince your wife, because, you know, I'm in the driver's seat, learning how to do a move and you know be stronger than the next, but the internal aspects of it is what really drew me to it, of being a martial artist.

42:07 You know what I mean? That was very impressive. is there also like this feeling, Yeah. Pejeda what do you really weigh something like that I think they'll show it. 228. Bananas. Homeboy gained 23 pounds. He's good. And now that he could defend on the ground, too. Look at that. Two 28 bananas. gallon of water way i never even thought of that a gallon of water is like over eight pounds i think

44:42 I think when you dehydrate yourself, you really can really put down some water. That's the most that I've put on. That was the first time I've done that. night off late that night so I can but I think people are realizing now it's better to just get up early. You definitely want to sleep hydrated. And I know it's tradition and I know it's the fight before the fight like John Anik always likes to describe it as but I just think

46:54 It can take a shot as well. It's worth it because you could really be a bully in there sometimes. Yeah. But that was a really intriguing fight for me because I know he's elite and I know you're elite. That was very technical. because the goal was he's going to be hard to hit in the head. Yeah. He injured, yep. I know he had at least one MMA fight since then

50:06 But, yeah, it definitely gives you something to think about, you know? You can find so many small shows where guys are doing it, Oh, goddammit, tap. Fight another day. Yeah, hard to repair. He's still struggling with it. His humerus or ulna? You know what I mean? it's great great gym it really is yeah that's the whole reason why I quit my six-figure job and moved to Phoenix, Arizona.

53:01 last fight at light heavyweight Dominic Reyes Dominic Reyes. Dominic Reyes, yeah. So that happened in Houston at the hotel. Shout out to Ares Physical Therapy. But I came back after the pec tear of the fight, Robert Whitaker, crazy freak injuries that like it can always happen when you're blocking kicks did, but it was still honest, when I look at that fight,

55:21 Or Drakus, who was a buzzsaw. My words exactly, dude was a buzzsaw. And that's exactly what he did. Always look slack-jawed. which you can't do with a Whitaker. You can't do with just run forward which you can't do with Whitaker you can't do with whether it was Lawrence Kenshin or one of the other ones It was very technical, man. But I think the pressure, the fact that Robert had to stay on, you know what I mean?

57:33 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I hear rumors that they're going I think there's, I don't know. Are you preparing for something like that? is Australia to get popping again Mick, you know who to call. Dana, I think my contract is something that we agreed upon prior to these events occurring. Not especially me. having fun right you know what i mean uh and this is something I tell people all the time. You know, I don't think of this as a job.

1:00:21 You know what I mean? That's the only thing. like I think you're 39 now. You're 39? I've mitigated a lot of the wear Yeah. your knees twisted and your neck cranked like everybody gets banged up within ten years And one of the things I think about, like, a big guy that cuts down is, like, your body thinks you're 300 pounds still. got it down to a science it sucks when people don't make weight. Like this past weekend, Michelle Pereira and Wonder Boy, they canceled the fight.

1:03:58 He's fucking huge. quite you know injuries yeah there's injury Darren Taylor had a bunch of knee injuries yeah You know what I mean? a good, comfortable job, you know what I mean? trying to fight so um yeah when i first when i was training it wasn't my goal to be a ufc fighter i It's a fascinating approach. and things that's going to make me a bigger, stronger, better, what am I?

1:07:14 That's a great way to think about it. be an animal or we can be something better than that we have the ability to be a demon or a devil You know what I mean? Yeah. I think if people could adopt that mindset when you were saying that. I was like, that's very admirable. I like when someone has a very clear, And I think that, you know, there was a lot of people that felt like that was kind of lost

1:10:46 Who didn't love the Conor McGregor era, right? I can understand it. Not that I keep it clean. specifically but i was doing things that I shouldn't have been doing don't get sued Jared I just want you to know I love you how did you wind up in arizona like? What was the path to get down there? They were some of my first training partners. Lauren, they had moved to Florida.

1:13:57 You know what I mean? So in the summertime, fall time, I was getting managers, getting in with the UFC. Shawn Jordan on that card And those who don't know giants, Remember he... I was like, let's see how this guy got. when they won a championship way back when. When you see that guy do a backflip, you're like, that's a fucking athlete because that's a lot of weight to throw around.

1:16:21 You thought you were going to fight as a heavyweight? So I spent another two years up there, you know what I mean, doing my career. I won in Croatia heavyweights on that it was Francis Ngannou But those are just three behemoths, four, six behemoths of men. So all these big dudes was on this card. time you know what i mean right who who i was getting prepared for that's a guy when i did my

1:18:30 Because that's one thing That's the last place I don't want to Parap is, I don't want to to have the most insane gas with a crazy gas tank and a crazy ability to just generate fast twitch muscle fibers and throw them into action for fighting. You know what I mean? He said he just wanted to work on efficiency but I think towards the end It gets exciting.

1:21:03 There's the BJ Penn school of thought under Marv Marinovich Well, I guess that approach can be attributed to the person right gsp is more Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying. No, you're absolutely right about that. The Mundiales, the world championships. Oh, and doing jiu-jitsu. just got my brown belt after being a purple belt for like seven years I was a

1:23:33 That dude was rolling when he was in his 90s. with a battle axe in one hand. So I want to be 120-something years old. Never ate bad always ate clean always ate organic never drank never smoked never fucked around never fucked around and Joe Smith Jr. knocked him out. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't like the canvas. It was the logo I slipped on, but even the canvas in itself.

1:26:36 I don't think they will come off a whole lot easier due to friction. Right, but not the surface of a wrestling mat And that's another reason why they use the canvas, because it's absorbent. a heat sort of yeah what is it called though these to iron on yeah whatever so like if you get like a yeah, who, I just wish there was a way to do it where it didn't fuck with the performance.

1:28:55 There's no way water's getting through that. If the canvas, they just do dye. He gave me, hooked me up with the artwork for this shirt. Canoneer.com? Merchandise. When's it going to be on sale? You can just show people. And this one's actually a little bit different. Yeah. no my first fight yeah I mean strictly adhere to Oh, yeah, submissions, especially heel hooks and shit for the person who's wearing them.

1:31:08 Right. And I've had to wear wrestling shoes for teach a class at the lab Saturdays 10 p.m at the mma lab and uh where are you like taking the footwork from specifically like where you learned from I see something. see something i can do that shit you know how much it bums out some dudes that like killers I saw him change his tempo, change his approach to the fight.

1:34:37 as well as they thought he was going to. I really do. Oh, really? They have to fight him soon if he plans on keeping the title. He's really, really good. You know, and so that's a big test, man. I mean, look at that movement, man I mean, that head movement is a thing of beauty. Oh, my goodness. things you do you watch uh like kickboxing do you watch other organizations anything combat related

1:38:14 You know what I mean? He pulls that off all the time on people. I've made that same correlation. That's got to be good for everything. So are you in kind of like a holding pattern right now just to see what happens with Australia, And it's a real fun time for the division. It was a much, much, much better performance than his first fight where he got taken out quick.

1:40:21 after what he did that was a couple weeks ago. especially in the first round. Yeah, of course. top level you can't just come wild it doesn't always work Because the guy generates crazy power. When he... Anyway, he won by knockout. And that's one of the reasons why I was like, here, man, let me go down the middleweight Why can't I remember that? Yeah. He was, uh, Paul Craig was's who it was that's who it was why couldn't I remember that

1:42:53 yeah right out of the gate He's probably done it for sure. You know what I mean? I got to just look at these techniques through a microscope. I don't really write down things. that right yeah what do you uh do you do anything uh unique for you for your recovery i am i do have a ice i have a plunge cold plunge yep i use a cold plunge i ice bath i mean

1:45:52 nothing else really. you know what I mean? And i just hadn't gotten that far in my journey with this uh cold plunge is it 45 don't do it 34 you'll get used to it Don't even. Yeah. then after the sauna i'll go back in for a few minutes you go before your workout yeah i do it I'll do that outside. A lot of people have used that. Just a little something for yourself.

1:48:49 Yeah, if you get all about the cold, then. One of the things about it is, like, layering correctly. Now you're wet. learn-to-return training for my job, right, toe boots some jeans uh a uh button-up polo shirt oh no and a carter jacket no way that's it and i How'd you lose a boot? So I was definitely, needless to say, I was not prepared to live in Alaska.

1:51:50 think i saw a bear like three or four times while i was up there in the in town grizzly bear no no I forget the story totally. but you can't hunt grizzly bears anymore because the people that live in the city voted it out. You've got to manage their population. They come into town and sometimes they fucking open up I just came from Alaska, and we were up there.

1:54:02 You get like a horn blows off or something? You can look on the internet and see where the effects, where places are actually affecting. I was always worried about that. Yeah. and we're about to go to Alaska. It was a little black bear. They look at you so different. Can I eat you? of this killing machine but a young bear sort of wiring, I guess. And he was working on his thing and uh um out in the distance way out in the distance with the

1:57:19 They hunt anything. Yeah. Yeah. The brown bears and the coastal bears. The inland ones. That's why I've seen these big bears run down a fucking moose. A long time, man. Got them by the ear. You see him? Yeah, it's about this crazy dude. Is that the dude I think he did it on purpose. I'm going to save all the grizzlies. And he just fucking ate him. And so then he just said, oh, he just eat this dude.

2:00:29 He knows what he's doing. but I'm not gay. It's like, what what are you doing man like what's going on Those bears aren't in danger. Yeah. killed yeah she got killed she got killed i don't think it takes much for it's a rare exception when Yeah, I forget who the reverent is based on. there could be that's why I don't do animals man that's gotta be like

2:03:14 Jeez. Hugh Glass is the author bro imagine living back then the newest It was fun. It was still cinematic for the story. It was a lot better than Aliens vs. Predator. I knew it. So the battle is, no, too much of that shit get off of that shit I had Karate Champ growing up. Okay, I remember Dead or Alive. Well, I keep fucking them up. Yeah. Bloody Roar.

2:06:37 Oh, okay. Have you done any of those VR games? Yes. Because I'm, like, pushing off my feet and moving my body around. Okay. You get a real good workout. Like, people say, well, I'm going to get in shape. treadmill or a multidirectional treadmill. Yeah. If you could do something like Dance Dance Revolution, But I got to use the bathroom. P, tell everybody your Instagram so they can follow you.

2:09:14 But I'm slowly spreading my wings. My pleasure. Let's do it again. All right. Bye, everybody.