Joe Rogan Experience #1164 — Mikhaila Peterson Transcript

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0:00 Five, four, three, two, one. I'm excited to have you here. then when I came back to the house especially because the house is full of like paintings and professor one issue with this one transgender bill the the preferred pronouns bill and then what's been portrayed has been so much more negative than what he's actually said or they'll And one of the only ways that they can get people to click on stories is salacious headlines, make things really clickbaity.

2:55 The headline was completely written by the editor. Well, the or it could be this part is cut out. Yeah, I guess, but wouldn't you alternative media sources don't It's very hard to find a good objective source. Because I don't, even with the, when you understand it as a psychological concept, that it is I don't think we know what's going to help those guys.

5:52 um in culturally enforced monogamy would be perhaps a solution for that and then a bunch No. But that, those kind of articles are like the editorial articles and opinion articles. The world just worked like that. You're both on this wacky carnivore diet. And this is probably one of the most controversial things in relation to food today. And I think he had both of them done by the time he was 30, right?

8:28 rheumatoid arthritis and I had like 37 joints affected. And then I was put on immune suppressants 20 years said that I had the worst arthritis she'd ever seen. So it was very severe. It wasn't Wow. and so that was when I started university and then my diet just got disastrous in university and I was like drinking all the time and eating like pizza and beer and I gained like 30 pounds

11:32 Anyway, I spent a lot of time. Like, they test type 1 kids for celiac disease. my mom dragged me to a naturopath and they gave me this sheet of foods and like try this elimination I feel like literally everybody has heard them referred to as nightshades. Is it a Canadian thing? Like for a couple of years, I'd always have these flare ups. It my skin healed. And my skin never healed. Like for a couple years, I'd always have

14:47 knees. And I never had flare ups that badly. Like I used to get, my shoulder was always sore when I thing I tried to reintroduce was sour patch candy, because I was having really intense sugar. Don't And I really wanted to eat them. organic almond butter, Yeah. a really high dose of an SSRI, which had been very helpful. But... Over two weeks? Very restricted paleo, dairy-free.

17:59 because of this gluten link. And then maybe because of the celiac gene that I got tested for, I was really sensitive to. So I ate a huge meal of like edamame beans and bean sprouts and miso soup that I made myself. clearly I'm reacting to soy. And then the next morning, the depression came back. And it came Then you got itchy. And I said, I don't think I can drive.

21:09 and a half other hallucinations um that year yes before that no that year yeah after this But does schizophrenia include hallucinations? but it's really dark in a room, i'm so i'm freaking out so i'm like okay that's not good so i find my keys and i go upstairs and then i went into my bedroom like soy again but i went back to the initial diet i was eating. So essentially just this one meal, this one great

24:22 So then it started lifting and I started feeling better again. autoimmune symptoms came back so my legs were were itchy again. I was, my joints were stiff. My skin Mostly because we didn't realize you didn't need greens to survive. aren't really pregnancy related it's just me now and for some reason i've lost the tolerance to Okay. I think I Googled allergic to everything food-wise, something like that into Google.

28:10 I literally have nothing to lose here. And after about a week, I thought, okay, this is a bad idea. Obviously. the bloating went away, the diarrhea went away, and everything started to improve. i started this blog so the blogs don't eat. And I started this blog because I thought if for some reason there's someone else out there like me and they're Googling these things, it'd be nice for them to know that they're not alone.

30:31 Some people have no problem with peanuts. There's a lot of pushback against this carnivore diet idea. Yeah. Okay. Mood issues. One of the things your dad brought up to me when he was here was emulsifiers. Yeah. Yeah. Combining that and grains, it's no wonder people are ill. That's one of the primary issues. a lot of people out there that are not overweight that don't follow the carnivore diet so how do

34:17 And that's one of the reasons why your diet is fascinating. requirements. Caloric. So, I mean, it's hard to say, but I think sedentary lifestyle is a giant out i just didn't feel like i had the energy and i just forced myself and i think there's very few and I don't think people and your body would perform more smoothly. off to only, you know, their physical, the way they physically feel because I felt like

37:25 sit down get home in front of the tv sit down then go to the gym fuck off they don't have any energy I mean, listen, you get your hip replaced and you're fucking 17. But there's been many, many people that have just put their foot down and said, enough. The way your mindset affects the choices you make with your diet They just have poor diet choices.

39:46 No, I don't believe that. You don't have to do a lot. You get your blood pumping. You can exercise. And he has energy. They're going after it. You don't have to kill yourself. It really does. You'll get fired up. You'll feel better. She's probably really embarrassing. I'm just saying just do something. It's crazy. Stop. And then you can exercise. You haven't convinced me completely.

44:18 i mean most people who don't have enough energy are and a lot of those people don't realize like Yeah. like you say you have depression to a person who doesn't have depression like myself i hear that You don't get joy out of anything. So what leads you to the carnivore diet? Nothing. December. That was basically it. Yeah. I'm just sticking with meat.

47:35 we i had the same thing we ate the same thing i think it was sulfites and apple cider in a stew 11 days and 25 minutes 25 minutes what at that 26th minute, that dude went down hard. It'll be fine. I have to sit down on the couch. About two hours. Yeah. a truck came by and honked at me and i was like oh my god i'm gonna die and then i went on adderall

50:52 I was taking a lot. And it just destroys your short-term memory. If you have energy, if you have energy, I don't think it gives you the kick like if you're exhausted all the time. January, March, April, May. So I was feeling good after I started, after the first six weeks. many, many nutrients. It's just, it's very deficient in vitamin C. It's deficient in

53:35 What about for inflammation? But that's not. weird because that is generally like well some sort of bacterial infection which i didn't have But when you said that you don't trust blood work and then. And one of the things that people notice is that there's quite a few issues there. of people doing this diet and just do a study so we could actually get some information yeah

56:26 that. It's been like that forever. Well, it's hard in Canada. Like I have some pictures on I just got my blood work back. So this was during the pregnancy. Right. above your bed. have gone up to normal. What about vitamin C? Oh, vitamin C was always normal. Vitamin C hasn't me something about that something along those lines that uh some of the vitamin c that you're

59:40 And now I'm eating, mostly I try to stay away from the antibiotic and hormone meat, in restaurants where I'm sure the meat's lower quality and I haven't had an autoimmune flare-up with that. So when you go out to eat, you know, one of the things you posted the other day was and then it's like a month of an autoimmune know you don't know so the idea just the elevated heat temperature whether it's infrared or not

1:01:21 That's a regular sauna. infrared, and she said the studies that were cytokines, It's giant for me. I mean, I don't have the autoimmune issues that you have, but boy, for me, it's just, it's a game changer. I get in No, it's great. No. So they cut off the bottom of the tibia. one? Oh God, no, I hope not. I think they're just going to try and fix it. Get some super dope

1:04:07 Get a new foot Go to the nail salon If I could run again all the time but even like a um what's an elliptical like that's pretty low impact and Oh, wow. Yeah, it's one of the best exercises in terms of cardio. And what are they going to do? Jesus. Then I would have at least been clued in that gluten was a problem. they're not it's not ideal for people with very special problems right it's good for general

1:07:48 Because you can stay longer in the threshold area. rather than you being in the heat. I don't know the difference. I think that's what they're getting at. It's got a chin-up bar in, and it's got all these, like, resistance cables. It works at that level. And they've had some pretty awesome benefits of that. It is all very fascinating stuff. I've tried like I tried everything to get rid of these reactions faster, like detoxification things or mostly just different, weird, different sort of detoxification things, and nothing's helped except the sauna.

1:11:19 your dietary immunosuppression via deficiency might be helping you. I don't even know if I understood all that properly. So you got tested. can be caused by the drugs that are used to treat rheumatoid arthritis. These are the potential scenarios. has been on the carnivore diet for a while. And, you know, he's a Navy SEAL. He said he feels Yeah, it's like your body not having too much to manage.

1:14:43 And that you and your father both think this could be some sort of hereditary thing. Have you guys done any 23andMe testing? Yeah. And what is that? Have you been genotyped for different gene disorders, perhaps? something on her website right uh i ran it through that i ran it through prometheus um nothing Yeah. not experiencing those symptoms it's also yeah i definitely. It's definitely easier if you're

1:17:01 Oh, yeah. It's almost his entire diet. That's crazy. He does a podcast also with Sean Baker. It's not a good argument because this is happening. then the physical concerns of people that are forced to take on these fucking ridiculous They'll do 100 studies. I'm sure. Is it better or worse than the fact that, look, pharmaceutical drugs are in the water

1:20:45 don't if you're gonna look at this you better look at it in a if you want to make an argument And also, I believe they've proven that methane – Google if this is true – that methane When they're eating grain. It's how corn's in everything? Yeah, I think it was the carbon in their body and they found how much corn is in their body. Yeah. Yeah. or maybe she's just

1:23:19 by 20%. Okay, but still. See if there's any articles about that. What is that? And healthy soil keeps carbon dioxide underground and out of the atmosphere. Here you are on this diet now, and you've started to – what are you doing? I don't use oil. Not everyone gets that. carb withdrawal, especially if you go from like a standard American diet over then it's insane

1:27:19 I think the fat's the good stuff. I think it's definitely, it has a factor. went to Bellevue Hospital, and they stayed under monitor just eating meat for a year. Some mostly caribou. You know that? It's just, it's not the best okay but it's it's definitely it's just weird like like dough It's terrible though. And it's way cheaper than steak, but it's super fatty.

1:30:24 I mean, that was one of the reason it sucked but i well i mean those food reactions were kind of strange you know people have like weird sympathetic And you were like, apples gave you low back pain? and so does dad. And it's funny to freak out about until you get it, but that's very commonly I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah. I was very incredulous.

1:33:07 Do a workout. Yeah. You snap it in and it puts an Olympic plate on the back and locks it in place. A lot of people go, your dad was 50, 50 pounds overweight. Yeah. have a degree in nutrition or anything right god no well but what am i going to get a degree in so I could be wrong. what like maybe 20 000 years in some areas more like it's good for their gut i don't think that's surprising considering we haven't been eating it long enough to evolve with it.

1:36:55 and then try and once you feel okay, try and reintroduce foods and see where you stand. But it's hard to get the other vitamins in powder form. Why do they put that stuff in there? infusion. I couldn't find a multivitamin I could take. A lot of the vitamin K is derived from soy. So I'll react to that amount of soy. It didn't make me feel any better.

1:39:09 and lobster was on the menu so I don't even care Yeah. what I was doing before. But some people have like legit, like Chris Kresser is a perfect example. You know, it's a massive ramp up. So I'm not worried about it. I was so sick before, and now I'm better. But there are. And that was my sugar. The whole thing is a really interesting conversation because there's so much going on with it.

1:42:34 And so anything that's contrary to that, they reject. Like, thanks. Like, 10 years ago, did you ever hear this? dad and how healthy he is and how he looks so good. His skin looks younger. It looks thinner. And I look like a different person than the person I knew. And one of the things that is a giant benefit for people that cut the carbs out is the way

1:44:30 And it turns out it was bloating, right? I can't help myself. I had lettuce cravings. Lettuce cravings? Yeah, I mean not like my apple cravings, not like my sugar cravings, but they were there. So when you just eat only meat, Do you do it by tablespoon? Gets dry, yeah. Sorry. Do you feel like this is the way Nutritionally. They didn't have teeth that fell out.

1:47:36 I mean, we can't say we changed like 10,000 years ago in order to eat grain. Oh, the blood type diet? Well, man, so my diet's basically the blood type zero. And then I told you I don't eat chicken. Bison was fine. Well, dad says it, so it's his fault. They're fucking good, dude. Yeah. That's what it looks like. But Sandhill crane, I bet you could eat.

1:50:14 I wonder if you could eat that. So your plan is just uh sparkling water and steak forever but then the cravings go away ideologically possessed that's different but if you go on the vegan diet you cut out processed Wow. Like that part sucks. And for your father as well. Well, the problem is. Just order tallow. I don't know. I don't know if microbiome switch or if there's less,

1:53:45 Lectins, like all those types of things are inflammatory. this conversation is evolving, So if people want to check out your blog, what would that be? Dot com. I know.