Joe Rogan Experience #1200 — Ross Edgley Transcript

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0:00 4, 3, 2, 1... did before this yeah i did um this is a bit of a strange story i did um i tried to swim between tree, right? How big was this tree? Uh, so a hundred pounds, but I mean, it floats, but it came but came back to england uh rung up friends of mine at the royal marines i said guys look this i said uh oh i'm training for uh potentially attempting the world's longest current neutral

3:18 I'll do it if you do it, motherfucker. but Captain Webb refused to listen and 1875 August crossed the English Channel and this is the part I Yeah. again like the the the support boat was saying you know get out you're not you're not gonna make It might have been So I think there was an element. And I think there was Yeah. Get the old engine turning over.

5:58 forrest griffin used to kind of liken himself to the basketball players just shooting three much smaller way, And 10 knots, that's no way you're swimming against that and 10 knots that's that's a dolphin speed jesus yeah so what is 10 knots in miles per hour And when you get, but actually you made a good point in terms of when you get wind over tide.

8:14 Oh, my God. Oh, just the title, yes. Yeah, yeah. i was so for the team were amazing there was a uh the captain uh matt was just incredible that We were just going over how you predicted you had to, But, you know, surfers started to get involved because they understood the waves. Yeah, I mean, tides are so predictable. If you imagine sort of that's Great Britain there.

11:28 Right. But it is. it's just it is what it is yeah so so sometimes there's there's no option and perhaps the best So I popped my head up and I looked at Matt, the captain from the boat. So I took my goggles off, unpeeled this fat tentacle, threw it away. so Matt was like you still need to swim and um and this is the thing it was at that point that I collapsed, exhausted,

14:47 that from a sports science background, None of this. you get in the freezing cold water of scotland and you are quite happy getting hit in the face by 15 miles that the window of opportunity to swim around great britain because of the british summer Yeah, basically. You don't look like an endurance athlete. Yeah, and I'd probably be inclined to agree with you

18:31 all of a sudden I was like, okay, no, no, no, no. Now let's go over to the rowing machine or let's both a training session that that like i said causes your body to adapt to both strength and Right. maybe only an hour a day. Yeah, absolutely. So that's essentially how I would approach anything like this. tour de france and people like chris froome bradley wiggins you know from team sky they are just

21:52 that is the perfect example of you know you know said principle specific adaptation to impose bit because now it's non-weight bearing so the power to weight ratio is a little bit different so then you could and this is all theory for the moment but looking could it be argued that that stored muscle glycogen can almost turn them into a human whale So you think the muscle mass aids you in that way?

24:40 amazing swimmer that over 10k he's going to be amazing because his efficiency and everything but then past this point so when we start looking at the mileage that we were They got that muscle mass from doing very low reps high weight real strength your body's ability to generate force that is what i do um and yes it's shown like someone who's very strong yeah yeah and i think that's it where you start and that's not

27:16 the strength that you would use just leg pressing, muscles themselves how do you determine that like i said basically um electrocuting the muscles and oh or anything so cord extensions and make your legs extend yeah yeah wow so they would monitor Well, so it's always involuntary. it's involuntary now if there's a big deficit okay so if there's a huge deficit between the two that

29:49 They've not actually trained strength yeah just constant repetitions over and over and over again with not that high a weight yes yeah You know, and this is why I'm going off on a slight tangent here. capacity for work while maintaining the mass yeah and this this goes it's uh kid just growing up and and your parents hand you to me things and everything it for me one of the biggest things

33:46 endurance people well i guess not courtney courtney dalwalter she's so carefree and silly but you're tendons in my shoulders just wondering what was going on and um for me you almost develop a example you know i certainly wasn't all that happy then. 16 miles into a marathon you might be saying no way i can't keep putting one foot in front of the almost you know maslow's hierarchy of needs where it starts with just food shelter oxygen i was at

37:39 hierarchy of needs where you're not thinking about family and friends or what motivates you and what you know you know you're thinking i want to keep my tongue you know you're like fuck man because no one has really Yeah. Wow. That's how thick. that that video is great actually i mean that was in the cabin and i remember just thinking like now i'm not thinking you know family and friends to talk

40:18 and then you got out of the water and you're like holy shit i just swam for six months it was yeah it was it was so that is such madness and you cross the red bull finish line i got a trident that was pretty cool show what pussies we were I was, you guys think what we did was hard? Not only did she win it, she won it by more than 10 hours ahead of the second-place guy.

42:56 They would stop and then races or a 50 mile race and if you just finish So did you see? Yeah. So he ran the entire, and then at the end, and you see him on the floor, he's absolutely devastated. Yep, that's exactly it. Yeah. The bell clangs again. you want it to accelerate from 0 to 60 in We want improvements. and i think when He's Courtney's very thin. She's very light and very thin and you know, she's not the type of person that would win a

47:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. down to the 160 something pound range and then that's what he likes to weigh when he normally But maybe that's one of the reasons why he doesn't win these things. Because everyone knows how difficult. Like, fuck. whether it's 500 yards or five miles or whatever. Five months, man. I don't think anybody ever thought that was just Monday.

50:20 Well, they run an animal down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and uh they like stick a stick through it and then they make them crawl through thorns naked. Don't let those crazy guys cut your dick. Is that But is that the same with the horrible circumcision ritual? reasons why they become so successful is that the ability to push a pace for two plus miles or I'm not advocating that.

54:02 saying but do you advocate tolerance're saying. But do you... and they're like kicking trees and stuff. letting people almost try and submit him and then they'd tie themselves out he was just completely know and again i'm catching up on 157 days of ufc you know so i was actually out at sea with a choke but it is it chokes you but it it really feels like your fucking head's gonna pop off right

56:33 All of his muscles are designed to squeeze and crush and smash. um did you check dean lister's that's so weird wonder why anybody would take that down um anyway See, the difference is what Dean is doing, he can't even help himself. but see where his left arm is okay yeah that left arm should not there's you you can't you can't do So all those folks out there that were saying that it wasn't a choke need to go have someone apply that to them.

59:24 i think that's because Conor had eaten bombs. know what i mean that where where does it cross over from being it would help if he wasn't as See his left hand? scarf hold um and that was in metamorris and josh barnett who is uh he's a catch wrestling specialist was forced to tap but this is at the end of a long match and you know it could have been exhaustion

1:02:29 What Bisping has is just insane mental toughness. He had a repair. just this unbelievable specimen michael's uh you know a really good athlete unquestionably but it's just tough just And then listen to a really kick-ass song and put on headphones and that song comes or you're not sucking on some kind of new gas. You can push harder. got it inbuilt but when you start to train and i think it's only now that we're we're going down that

1:06:04 around years when you look at like um you know marcus aurelius meditations or stoic philosophy and they're You know, it might be a particular something. there was two metrics there so andy bolton which was a little bit 2.2 kilos per pound no 2.2 pounds per kilo yeah and then yeah and when you see him i mean this is what i love when I know. What's brilliant about Eddie?

1:08:21 with the deadlift such a simple movement and and you know the deadlift sort of deficit between what you can voluntarily contract and involuntary so so ahead of the curve and i know you were talking to i can't remember who it was now intolerance to it and that was the general adaptation syndrome but it was from that that actually work out to get involved it is and but and that's why I love what you broadcast.

1:11:20 what he did was amazing. roll he still can keep going and people and i know he was he was very entertaining we did the marathon thousand points in a day so he was really only a thousand points behind me but it's a crazy day I was doing like 90% of my max heart rate for like 30, 35 minutes. And it changed my endurance radically over a month. Because I would mix that in.

1:14:12 And then I added in that Air Runner treadmill, which is, what is it called? three minutes each round and then i would recover in between rounds the one minute in between rounds clear cellular signal to the body so polarized training you feel it was you know that 80 20 you've created a more powerful version of yourself and i think it was interesting what you just said

1:16:49 because you're kind of going through When you look at Bill Kazmaier, And then he built this incredible strength on top of that aerobic foundation. So we're going to build this aerobic neuromuscular base and when they show any sort of genetic potential to be strong quick whatever he set the there's a there's a clip on YouTube man my man's wearing chucks he sets there's a

1:19:11 Well, all that power from his legs, man. Unbelievable. Because the long stroke. well, you know, broke the rowing record. Wow. anything about bjj but you go okay this is an armbar this is and they kind of go okay let me ripping there's another one again even to use Brian as an example where he does Yeah, so there's that element right to use an example as well with with that. Oh, here we go. Here we go

1:23:10 He's so many reps. Come get involved. So this is they keep putting on weight until one of them. amazing and then thor come come and have a go at this and uh this is what he he produces so there's that neuromuscular efficiency well it's just mad strength it is it is i mean you of all exercises because it really does work all your muscle groups and if you can get really

1:25:58 doing that but again i just got beaten up i was 16 playing in the seniors league and you know just device where they can figure out a way oh this part of your brain is firing let's concentrate on building up And if you give us them, we've got years and years of experience And that's one thing they pride themselves on. cuba to florida you know incredible like she was getting stung by portuguese manowars and

1:29:13 pain um and this is not my thought honestly i should just say this has been theorized before mean obviously i haven't given birth but it's supposed to be unbelievably painful and women of an ego they don't have to pretend they already know something they don't want to just try it have the physical strength to pull it off on a big guy so what they have to rely on is correct

1:31:52 You ain't getting shit, man. changing again to bring it back to the usc i suppose because now i mean with what cormier's this has not been substantiated the problem is there hasn't been a really super powerful And then you have guys like Francis Ngannou, who's 265 pounds, massive knockout artist, when I look at all of the different heavyweights that I've personally seen fight,

1:34:25 started breaking down he started having all these back injuries he needed back surgery multiple back many many many years at a high level and and being known for that insane endurance and perception to Jon Jones fits into that camp as well. and then wound up tapping Vitor with a Maracan, because his toe was bad that's insane um he also went through that fight with alexander gussefson

1:37:05 Yeah. is something you either have or you don't have i don't believe that i think you can teach it showed them incredible endurance and incredible discipline and this this mental fortitude i think but you can get it. And I always go back to that arm bar with George St. But he's also a guy that knows how to dig deep, you know. He's a very, very intelligent guy.

1:40:02 But again, when you watch UFC Embedded and stuff, you can't help but love call me such a nice guy but and this goes Lewis fight Derek had no chance but no chance you know and Derek just knocked out Alexander Volkov who in a lot of people's eyes including mine was one of the dark horses in the heavyweight division He's a fucking heavyweight champion.

1:41:21 so, find the answers to that philosophers seek it was it was something like that he was such an advocate of it it's also building up that progressive overlap in your own head yes that and and what you just force and strength and endurance but they're solving puzzles right they're setting traps and efficient mindset and to be able to maintain proper technique under fatigue that's a good

1:44:25 Just like Ross swim this way, Ross swim that direction. and he's just sitting on the stool. Really? He snapped his forearm in half. He sent me the x-rays He has a son now. And Donald just handled him serone because you know it's love yeah yeah to him and he looks over at this guy like this guy's I'm coming for you. but that dude, Molly Watt. But is he better than Khabib?

1:49:07 rounds of this shit yeah yeah and that's the thing with barboza i mean terrietta that kick he just I really do i think what you did by forcing yourself to do that shit for six hours a day take a break six hours again like there's something about a person breathing down your neck that's trying to choke you that's But even that night, my first night, the bed, it sounds so weird,

1:51:22 She was just like, go back to bed. So spring tides being stronger, neat tides being stronger. Like to go through five months of one reality and then to come out on the other end And I was just like, oh, OK. I forget what he did on the bike, but I think he did at least a mile on the bike. And stopped going And then so when you do shift that, it's all relative because you know it can be

1:54:24 My shoulders are What's 160 kilos? to learn to walk again and everyone laughed and i was like no no no like the the arches in my foot No. you're not a lot of these endurance guys are old angry people they get older and they develop this like they live in the mountains you know weathered faces you know their calves are just like this Josh Naylor So there

1:58:01 So you get uh it's called the bob graham so there's a famous uh fell race going back to sort of the joan you're in your running gear with those shorts on but you were running there with your running gear and you had jornet so the guy behind in the blue um set the record look it says there i needed to suffer says killian And that's kind of the concept of fell running.

2:00:58 yeah will be long established that to do the bob graham you need to do that point that point that I think at the moment about 100 kilos, which is a lot. So with something like running... because you're so heavy yeah even you are lining up on a start line i mean you know if you're racing against killing you look over and you've got a guy like that yeah you just

2:03:05 maybe as well and this is so often overlooked actually but you've got to train your digestive And even seasickness, which we've not really spoke about as well, which is kind of like you need something that hits those four points and does 15,000 calories a day. just eating out the pan just trying to shove it in your face yeah so like what what would you eat

2:05:04 same way with the mass but but nutritionally as well. carbohydrate rather than long-chain triglycerides so um there was a certain amount of science to yeah exactly especially you might have like protein and then fruit and it they're sub-three-hour marathon runners, they're incredible. just trying to nurse the body saying look i know this is horrible i know it's cold i know i'm asking you to swim for 12 hours

2:08:32 that you were supplementing that calorie density i think it's so often overlooked the higher concentration of leucine specifically so branch chain amino acids leucine within that is what I want to pass out. like that that wasn't going to happen on this small galley that we had on the boat right so it was, this is such a strange story but I then uh But within that kinetic chain, something's going to give like the weakest part.

2:12:24 you know an amazing phelps or you Pull up that photo of him with his belly hanging out. Look at this photo. That's one. He's an animal. Call him up. probably wouldn't be applicable to you Liam Tank got a 50-meter world record, a lot of backstroke, you know, you had to think of something that was going as this table breaches right next to me i was like whoa like too much rise i i turned to matt the captain i was like matt am i safe like what's

2:16:21 because what I think saving you for later Wow. i was i was concerned about that one but no so that's a basking shark so they're friendly Were they interested in you? it's probably going to be you because no one's ever spent that amount of time in the water as well. So they might, you know. People said, like, how do you swim at night? it's just one of those just darkness yeah yeah just like you can't you can't see the hand in front of your face it's wow like the moray fir for instance we were like

2:20:26 And I certainly found that all the way around, that you just, there was times when you were just like, what am I doing out here? fighting and it's like what does he? He's got so much money. No, so I've been out of sea, And I think he spends a shit ton of money. They might say, no, no kicky, no kicky. Go to Striking Breakdowns on Instagram. And he's really sneaky.

2:23:32 That's a good question. to it striking breakdowns that's when i typed it man it's not coming up no But this is a, I don't know how much they were offering him. And McGregor was at 55. Like look at this Boom Real close. Tremendous power. sneakier but that's what we're describing now is another intangible right yeah creativity yeah exactly i mean and what i found it so interesting

2:26:43 in the game. Wheel kicks most certainly work. But it's just not a high percentage kick, that's just this whole other realm that you don't talk about weight as a metric strength You can throw a turning side kick. and striking technique. Some guys just like to wrestle. You're throwing some feints. is it going to be, Big deadlift. would it be, A lot of people think you should do that when you're nowhere near a camp.

2:30:55 It's just you know, no you and never met before well, no, he made wait. I'm sorry. He made wait against Tyron Woodley, didn't he? I think there's a point of diminishing returns where they're significantly depleting themselves to make that weight. His face got, like, gaunt. In the PFL For all of the training it seems For heavyweight Right hardy right yes he fought hardy and um he took him down which was interesting he didn't want to

2:33:08 and he was like yeah I love cupcakes aspects but as someone who doesn't understand the technical aspects but as You've cut weight. for the wrong reasons but even if you know how to do it intelligently there's still a demand that know and he was like really messed up because of it and he had to go through a battery of tests before they approved him to fight

2:36:04 shit yeah yeah you know those guys do it all the time especially you get a guy like a george And now, and he just ran, he goes, Good boy. Look at him. he's like he doesn't even respect their speed look how much faster he is than those guys that's referee went no no you now kick it you know and it was it was amazing they didn't bother teaching but I think you might have mentioned LeBron James saying,

2:38:42 and it's evolved to what it is now. They can make that much money from fighting, but they're so rare. Wow. Yeah. He has to beat somebody. So, it would have been right around number two. That is so crazy. 6.7 for Floyd Conner. Wow 4.4 for Floyd Manny. That is so crazy. end to johnna groats record well done and those cameras and it was amazing and then i was just

2:42:11 And in fact, the UFC said that most likely next was Tony Ferguson. Oh, George St. see someone like mayweather you think is he just an extrinsically motivated when he's saying you i want to believe that and i hope that's true because because you're almost taught like intrinsic motivation do it for the love you know and sort of you know the sweet You ain't good enough for this.

2:44:54 fascinating was connor was doing it to him was screaming in his face with a hard-on by the way fought that could fuck him up in a real fight though right that was the there was a different Conor would kick him from a distance. Strangle him, rip his knees apart with leg locks. It was a boxing match and he didn't have a chance. so much that george saint pierre even said it just invoked again actually going back to what we were

2:47:53 the they moved into the cage and uh they closed it and nick diaz just started saying stockton bitch he was doing what anderson silver did to forrest griffin and has done all his career but It might've been Strikeforce. Why can't I remember? Yeah. But why did I think Elite XC? That was him, like, KG Nunes, turn around and you know again without understanding the technical element,

2:50:46 He was very emotional, and he just wanted to fuck that dude up, It's already 5 o'clock. I mean it's fascinating stuff yeah time we'll get like we'll get burton again for the record he's an amazing physical specimen of so yeah and same on Facebook bye