Chris Kresser

Date: 2019-12-05 | Duration: 3h 45m

Episode Overview

Episode 1393 features a detailed debate between James Wilks, producer of *The Game Changers* documentary, and Chris Kresser, a well-known integrative health practitioner. The conversation centers on the scientific validity of the film’s claims about plant-based diets, particularly addressing controversies around meat, dairy, and protein consumption. Wilks defends the documentary’s portrayal of plant-based nutrition, highlighting its accreditation by the Defense Health Agency and its focus on athletic performance. Kresser challenges several points, scrutinizing the interpretation of research on dairy’s link to cancer, the role of red meat in cardiovascular health, and the adequacy of plant-based protein for athletes. Both discuss the complexity of nutrition science, industry funding biases, and the importance of evaluating the totality of evidence rather than isolated studies. A significant portion of the debate focuses on vitamin B12 sources and deficiency risks, with Wilks emphasizing supplementation for vegans and Kresser questioning assumptions about natural B12 availability and absorption. They also delve into protein quality and quantity, comparing animal and plant sources, and discuss how different diets impact muscle synthesis and athletic performance. The episode offers a rare, in-depth clash of perspectives, balancing enthusiasm for plant-based diets with critical examination of nutritional science, making it a valuable resource for listeners interested in evidence-based diet debates.

About Chris Kresser

Chris Kresser is a renowned health detective and pioneer in the field of investigative medicine, blending traditional medical practices with modern insights to optimize wellness. As the co-founder of the Kresser Institute, he has educated thousands through his courses and has authored the best-selling book "The Paleo Cure," which has made significant waves in the health and nutrition community. Known for his engaging approach to complex health topics, Kresser is also the host of the "Revolution Health Radio" podcast, where he dives deep into the science of nutrition and holistic health. His commitment to uncovering the truth behind health myths and promoting evidence-based practices makes him a compelling figure in the wellness space.

Key Moments

– Plant-Based Diets
– Nutritional Epidemiology
– Vitamin B12 Deficiency
– Protein Quality and Quantity
– Cancer Risk and Dairy Consumption
– Cardiovascular Disease and Meat Consumption
– Dietary Fat and Metabolic Health
– Sports Nutrition
– Dietary Supplementation
– Food Industry Influence
– Scientific Consensus in Nutrition
– Endothelial Function
– Ketogenic and Low-Carb Diets
– Anthropological Diet Evidence
– Digestibility of Plant Proteins
– Meta-Analysis Interpretation
– Nutrient Bioavailability
– Lactose Intolerance
– Environmental Impact of Diets
0:00:00 – Introduction and opening remarks
0:03:09 – Discussion on trans fats and bias in studies
0:06:09 – Questioning evidence linking diet to cancer
0:13:24 – Analysis of meta-analyses on dairy and cancer risk
0:18:00 – Industry funding and its impact on research outcomes
0:25:02 – Evaluating causation from cancer risk studies
0:28:01 – Role of Dr. Walter Willett and Harvard nutrition research
0:32:32 – Clarifying dairy's link to cancer and intolerance issues
0:36:48 – Game Changers documentary accreditation by Defense Health Agency
0:42:26 – Burden of proof in claims about harmful foods
0:43:09 – Studies on red meat consumption and health effects
0:47:50 – Athlete nutrition and carbohydrate intake debate
0:51:28 – Scientific consensus and expert polling discussion
0:53:17 – Ketosis and low-carb diet mechanisms
1:08:13 – Vitamin B12 sources and supplementation debate
1:19:04 – Prevalence of B12 deficiency among different diets
1:25:03 – Supplementation as safest method to obtain B12
1:39:31 – Protein intake misconceptions and plant protein sources
2:00:29 – Meta-analysis on red meat and processed meat risks
2:16:26 – Discussion on scientific consensus about healthy diets
2:21:42 – Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics on vegetarian diets
2:28:25 – Lean ground beef protein content compared to plant foods
2:36:43 – Conservative protein estimates in plant-based diets
2:52:53 – Protein digestibility and amino acid absorption assessment
3:01:01 – FAO methods for evaluating protein quality
3:18:00 – Importance of protein quality and quantity in diets
3:21:46 – Endothelial function and dietary protein effects
3:29:19 – Low-carb diets impact on serum triglycerides
3:34:14 – Milk and egg protein effects on endothelial function
3:38:07 – Creatine levels and muscle mass in plant-based diets
3:41:36 – Closing remarks and appreciation

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, here we go. Starting point is 00:00:22 Yeah, I'm one of two producers. Starting point is 00:00:57 that's been misrepresented right so even before the film came out people are like oh there's this Starting point is 00:01:33 you know people say oh you cherry picked one location it was the only known gladiator burial Starting point is 00:01:55 But if you wouldn't mind, I just want to make sure that Chris, Starting point is 00:02:36 for it right yeah fair to say and then someone can claim that that's cherry-picked because Starting point is 00:03:09 bias potential. And there's interventional trials, right? So let's just take trans fats, Starting point is 00:03:38 Is that fair? Starting point is 00:03:49 Not necessarily because there are meta-analyses and reviews that are built for this purpose to look at the totality of evidence. Starting point is 00:04:25 I didn't go to a dentist. Starting point is 00:04:42 Chris is someone that I might want to go to. Starting point is 00:05:11 Okay. Starting point is 00:05:23 No, I wouldn't necessarily agree on the recommendations. Starting point is 00:05:40 Well, this was my point before. Starting point is 00:06:09 because the the main question here in my mind is whether there is evidence that supports Starting point is 00:06:54 inferred connection no there was not to what was the connection the connection cigarettes was that Starting point is 00:07:16 So they pay for studies. Starting point is 00:07:40 to show like, hey, smoking is good. That was the parallel that we drew. We never drew the parallel Starting point is 00:08:17 every critique so basically the consensus and you're saying they're changing over time they Starting point is 00:08:49 But the thing about this section of the film was you were making some sort of a correlation between cigarettes and— Starting point is 00:09:17 You're connecting something that clearly causes cancer, cigarettes, and these studies that were made to show people...

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