Joe Rogan Experience #1417 — Kevin Ross Transcript

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0:00 two one kevin ross bringer of gifts what's good man how you doing good to see you brother thank All you're really doing is deadening little spots in your nerves, but that's the worst thing you can You got to just do this every day, just at the end of your session, knock out a few kicks, You're like, hey, I'm going to condition my shins. wrap itself around it a little bit better and then you start going harder and harder and by the end

2:58 Yeah. but you catch them the wrong way at the wrong time. that's why it did that. Yeah. you need to pay attention to what piece of your leg you're hitting with, which piece of your shin they don't feel pain and that it doesn't bother them but even guys with hundreds and hundreds And that's part of the art of it. by that like you know you think about the entire world it's an enormous world and people have been

6:32 And that's why when you go there, it's like obviously the skill for sure, You know, they're getting money to send back to their families. There's give and take to everything that we do, and we're trying to maximize our learning and minimize the damage or the risk of injury that we're taking. And you're only going to focus on the things that you're really good at.

8:56 do you want to use those in the gym? Or do you want to use those in the ring? You know, and I time to learn and develop is and what's counterproductive and what isn't. more beneficial to start going towards the other direction especially if you want to stay in this But that's how we develop. almost 15 years ago he was actually the janitor at this gym uh had just moved from russia and now he he owns

12:12 There's another gym out here called Boxing Works, You know, I don't really know why that happened or how that happened. Yeah. because it's like a city but it's not a big city yeah and it's got a lot of beauty like there's Yeah. diego i leave here at like eight in the morning oh yeah yeah just like let's if i have to work i haven't they kind of showed you know what the california fires

16:09 Crazy Like so much of their habitat is destroyed Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they can eat other things i think that's like Have you ever been when there's a fire here? hopefully everybody had insurance but it's just uh it's humbling when you see it coming because that was so bad you know i was up there probably about five years ago when these were going on and

19:12 like me and my neighbors um and some friends of mine we all uh picked a hotel in town we all went you should be able to learn from that and then carry that lesson. artists and why most of my friends a good percentage of my friends are martial artists some dude's trying to choke the fucking breath out of you around shooting each other because just a few days of not doing this i'm like i want to kill

22:51 is fucked up and then he figures something out yeah and then becomes a role model and in a lot where were we on all this my story yeah well your story of not starting until you're 23 and before many memories I have almost no memories of that time in my life where I felt like a child, that carefreeness of childhood. And So a really good friend of mine, we lived in Colorado for about a year or two.

26:06 But over the years, you know, I thought about, I was like, oh, maybe I'll try boxing And I never saw any fighting that was like that, and they used to have tie fights on once in a while and this fight came on i got this next One, I didn't know how I'd be able to afford it. I was physically dependent alcoholic Every day I would drink. We would just drink.

28:47 started calling around gyms in vegas i was like oh maybe i'm gonna find a place to do this and Master Tati's gym. And I called the gym, gym, you know, went down and talked to one of the instructors. know how serious I took myself. You know, I was like, I laugh at me when I say this, you know, He was eventually going to need to get a heart transplant.

30:51 I was 18 at the time. and wanted to do it but by you know continuing to drink and all these other things i just put it and that just obviously devastated me to no end. But it really just boiled down to fear. wasting my life for 21 years because I'm afraid. And they're bullshit. So I was like, made it my New Year's resolution to do this. to fight you want to fight and um very like quietly he's. You want to fight, you want to fight, you want to fight. And, um, I very like quietly was like, Oh, I want to fight one day. And he's like, what?

34:42 you know maybe i can finish this all right but you know, I understood even at that age, like, you can't put things off like that. I had to overcome so much, I'm like, I'm never going to get there. So everything that I do has to be to get me closer to this goal. And I can't allow, you know, my physical It doesn't matter how afraid I am. and we didn't because of X, Y x y and z but really those things aren't

37:58 I was always really good at sports. you know, was always a big thing. You know, it's like, it doesn't matter how hard I work because Yeah, yeah, I do. which not a lot of people realize. that was going into it. I was Can you remember the first day of footwork and holding your hands up? You know what I'm saying? it was traumatic in a lot of ways but having to confront that and face that, particularly me,

42:37 know what i'm doing and maybe you can show me some things just like go and that's very much a a few weeks people thought i'd been doing it for years. and all those kinds of things. And, um, you know, it was always like, when do I get to fight? When There was no, this wasn't, this was before YouTube. there was going to be a fight in salt lake city utah

46:11 But when we got there, the guy that I was originally supposed to fight, I'm like, I did all this work. that we came up and the people that we came up under was you fight anytime, anywhere, anyone, any style, any weight. the world with with complete stranger and it's night and day between a real fight and sparring I couldn't, I could barely even see.

48:47 But by the third round, he was just battering me, Like, oh, that was awesome, man. He's like, dude, that was your first fight? It's the heart that you show. if you can't win and maybe you can't be the best in the world, with that the first day and overcome it and be like you know what that doesn't matter i'm gonna improve myself. I'm doing this because it's it. I'm doing this to improve myself. I'm doing this

52:20 It was almost symbolic of your journey that you were forced to fight someone who had 30 good when that does happen yeah and not just to trust the process but to uh appreciate the journey or really hurt us in the end. And all of these things are going to be the the more self-sufficient you're going to be and all of these things are are um Having people that do believe in you and telling you how great you that might end up hurting you you know having people

55:27 It's like 90% of the time 80 degrees and sunny. clothes were wet and i was like oh you don't you don't get dry there's no dry we had one day where We got back to L.A., and it was 80 and sunny. That day I was like, fuck, this is amazing. You need that. So if you don't have the good and the bad, you don't even understand. But, um, I've been thinking about this a lot lately and, and, you know, wanting to

58:57 And we don't think that anyone else is going through these things. And if we did, just that knowledge of not being alone would be so like a little 12 14 year old kid standing next to you like you're not like you don't even me when i was a kid like i want to i want to be molested and um you know we're not able to really understand it um and understand the the

1:01:34 You know, I was very conflicted by it. of, of, of, of, of negativity and of, of, of, um, you know, having to be, having to be alone and not this therapist is getting more out of this, our interaction, than I like he's you know like a overweight person that needs like self-confidence help i'm like how do i how can i do this and like should i do this i'm like i don't know if that's like a

1:04:27 A couple times It was very weird To, you know, this girl grabbing my dick and pulling her tits out she was a woman It was the same thing for me. Yeah. it went on for a year longer than a year it was probably close to uh two years how did it stop You know, this feels wrong. I couldn't even conceptualize how twisted this person was until I got that age.

1:08:45 A betrayal. trying to you know make this horrible situation like okay for all of us and you know I didn't father, by the people around me that were supposed to love me and take care of me but I don't want to really live. And I want to check out of this place. And, you know, half of my life was just destroyed it? Are you going to let it destroy you and break you and never do this again

1:12:23 And this is something that I just started understanding Everything seems so positive. important in culture and in human beings we're all part of some strange evolution of the human race and the things that our grandparents went through were likely this like you know like people admire you and to hear this is so it's so powerful i mean it's it i'm so glad you said it i'm so glad you talked all of it

1:16:07 They don't deal with doubts. But it's almost like when you make it to a point, it's like, oh, they don't deal with this anymore. You're not allowed to be human anymore. and read about their stories. They had to work and strive and struggle and fail, Yeah. that devil that's looming over your shoulders. And there's nothing you can do. and we get stronger, and we get more confident,

1:19:58 but like, you know how easy that can happen? We get stronger and we learn how to process them and we understand it more that are going to steer you in a more positive way. That's what's helped me. sprints on a treadmill because a treadmill doesn't lie. This is how fast you're going. And this is that uh that question you yeah that uh that push you and um you know like like for me Gina's always

1:23:31 a better place in my mind and my heart now that's gonna allow me to just like be a lazy piece of slow yeah and we're trying to find that perfect balance of everything and you'll never can find it. early on at a young age like i do not want to go down this path that I see everybody on. Yeah. And I always had this thought in my head that one day I would make it.

1:26:17 Like, you can't ever, you don't make it. be working to make sure that you are always evaluating your perspective on life and always happy with the result you got a day or two to relax yeah you got a day or two and then you're Every fucking day I get up and I'm like, all right, I've got to figure out how to do this. If you don't, you're going to feel like shit.

1:28:35 It doesn't exist. Well, then you start filling up your life with these meaningless destinations, right? up with meaningless possessions and they and they still aren't happy a band-aid to cover up the like The struggle of, like, a hardworking person that can get done with a day of hard work and have a feeling of accomplishment and then go home to your family and get going again, knowing you have to get up in the morning and do it again.

1:30:18 Why are they so at peace? And unfortunately, a lot of times we need everything taken away Yeah. We always think they're shallow always. nothing there there's nothing there and so ingrained in us from the time that we're born And I remember that. You reap this understanding of what you're capable of, right? You realize that you have this incredible skill and this understanding of how to fight correctly because of all the time and the hours and the focus.

1:33:54 the people you communicate with get better at that yeah that's that's that's the goal in this life That's true. It's a map of the territory. but I got to see firsthand both sides of money. reward you just get better at it and you get some sort of a sense of satisfaction and i mean there's a there's something Oh, what is it? You know, they figured out how to drill a hole in the ice and fish.

1:37:03 We're both in our 20s. shelter. And all of these things. but you're not developing yourself emotionally and mentally and spiritually. this is just home now there's a feeling when you get when you're home like all right i'm home You know, I might have felt different, like, when I go out to eat But the older you get, nobody knows what the fuck is going on and everyone's out here just winging it.

1:40:14 They don't exist. Am I a grown up? you cannot no you can but everything is there i like to think there are there are really no yeah if you do this if you put two bricks on top of two bricks you have four bricks Well, there's a problem today. there's something about them that that their inspiration is fuel it's it really does something a documentary on one of those guys one of these these internet guys who rents houses and rents cars

1:43:44 into thinking that you're more get this mansion too you can make i'm gonna show you here on a whiteboard this is what you can do You know, go move to Nepal for a year. that i'm dealing with and going through and like i'm only going to focus on this positive thing these people in our lives that like they're only there because you're doing something for them

1:46:29 Right. this is one thing They have these employees and people, and it gets real sketchy. especially for successful people people start kissing your ass yeah i'm like oh this is nice i don't need i don't need to deal with this bullshit i'm gonna have there's a lot of shit you could fake but moving your body you know you can't really fake that people you know people need to hear from a guy like you that looks like you know you're a cool

1:49:24 Image mentality. this surface you know this is who i am and you know image image mentality and uh yeah i i'm very There's so many things. Yeah. walking to the ring. i don't even know if he ever talked about it oh yeah but he was talking about how when he was a Only the task exists. and this kid's 13 and this kid is just he was 190 pounds when he was 13 teddy teddy teddy atlas said

1:53:28 And he's a hypnotist. up in the mountains that was for him develop so much later expect that right like you you you you want these people to be these amazing athletes and these Almost all of them. I'm going to show you. and the ability to forgive, those are some of the most important aspects of community and of friendship and of the human race. Get out.

1:56:12 You can cancel somebody and you don't even think about them. We all do horrible things. all human humans need love we need sympathy we need understanding and we need to be able to say Ooh, I got ding, ding, ding. Yeah. i you know that's really um one thing i really love about your show is your ability to communicate it's what not to do yes that is so vital in you know um in everything but like for me in training it was like yeah this

1:59:34 and the way you grew up? Usually they're confrontational or you're confrontational, conversationalist i understand how to talk to people better and i've gotten it's i apply it Yeah. really listening to you yeah they're just so and like why are you doing that why are you arguing like having a communication and conversation they're trying to like socially dominate you. And this, look, I used to do it for sure.

2:02:43 that maybe you could pull out of your ass every now and then to shut people down. is someone actually talking to someone, I would just said, But instead of doing that, Yeah. like doing has terrible habits yeah you go oh look at this guy what the fuck are you doing man you're able to bring out conversation and and get in depth with all of these subjects well i'm

2:06:00 and i realized oh i used to not be as good like i can't i never listened to my podcast but if i did listen to like the old ones from the beginning i probably like fucking You're right here, man. or maybe you're distracted by other noises. You don't want to step on each other's toes. Because everyone's drunk. I mean, if you're doing it right, your relationships, being a parent, being a comedian, being comedian being a fighter being a doctor i'm sure

2:08:42 I feel like I'm a seeker. life is period and that this idea of like oh one day we're going to create an artificial environment And the more you think about it, you might, like, check out of reality to a degree. Why are you mad at stuff? Yeah. we see or sure but all anything is is an agreeance upon what this thing is. And there's other people that fucking hate

2:13:00 hilarious comedian loves jazz goes on jazz cruises does stand up on these cruises i try man i try Yeah. these demons flying around and all these colors and like we just have we have a filter on that and you're tripping balls for seven hours. Some people are born deaf That are floating around are off they're different their brains are different they process life different because

2:16:39 just get passed down like that without um outside influence just just through that process like i would become i would throw myself into things to show that i had value and i would get and I just threw myself into that. all the fucked up parts right like you're not sad you got it without the sad thing you just want to in the world right he's so nice yeah that's a genetic thing that dog is a golden retriever

2:19:35 Never had a rough day in his life. and they said, oh, they give me treats, or whatever the fuck. of the chemistry involved, Because our ancient ancestors were eaten by cats. It's in there. spiders they're like oh my god oh Yeah. Like, Yeah. Hey, keep doing it. it gives them different perspectives and that it makes them maybe explore things maybe i'm gonna

2:24:10 And then also me getting better at it is just me. that doesn't make any fucking sense be like everything you do and say and make me feel is vital to follow your heart and follow the things you feel because everything else like nobody knows This is why I was wrong. some sort of just normalcy, All those things, that should be a t-shirt. That's why I'm always scared of drugs that make people confident.

2:26:45 crazy yeah like that's why i like it yeah i like it because i think the drugs that make you like Life is fucking weird, man. And everyone's like in agreeance that like, we all know what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. kickboxing which i'm very i'm very thankful that they have that still um yeah yeah i'm you know i'm There is and they got that big fight this

2:29:12 Like eventually I'm going to have all these fights lined up Like fighting is what I do, and I will always be a fighter. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. thing like my fighting. Obviously that's a very finite timeline on that. But once that's done, My pleasure, brother.