Janet Zuccarini & Evan Funke

Date: 2020-06-08 | Duration: 1h 54m

Episode Overview

Janet Zuccarini and Evan Funke dive deep into the challenges and nuances of running authentic Italian restaurants amid the pandemic’s upheaval. They discuss the razor-thin profit margins that define the restaurant industry and how COVID-19 exposed its vulnerabilities, forcing many establishments to operate at reduced capacity or close entirely. Janet shares firsthand experiences of navigating lockdowns, protests, and economic uncertainty, highlighting the delicate balance between public health and keeping businesses afloat. Evan reflects on the artistry behind traditional Italian cooking, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, seasonality, and terroir—not just in wine but in every ingredient, from hand-pressed pasta to locally sourced vegetables. The conversation also explores the personal toll of the industry, with Evan recounting how constant exposure to raw flour even led to a gluten intolerance, underscoring the physical demands chefs endure. Both guests emphasize the deep connection between food, culture, and community, sharing stories about the intimate, almost soulful nature of cooking “casalinga” (home-style) meals. They critique modern culinary trends that prioritize spectacle over substance and stress the value of word-of-mouth reputation over accolades like Michelin stars. Despite the hardships, Janet and Evan express cautious optimism about the resilience and creativity of the restaurant world, believing it will adapt and thrive beyond the pandemic’s shadow.

About Evan Funke

Evan Funke is a celebrated master pasta maker and the chef-owner of Felix Trattoria, a renowned Italian restaurant located in Venice, California. With a deep-rooted passion for traditional Italian cooking, he has earned accolades for his artisanal approach to pasta, showcasing the craft as both an art form and a culinary staple. Funke's dedication to authenticity and quality has garnered him a loyal following, making Felix a must-visit destination for pasta enthusiasts. His appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience highlights his commitment to the culinary arts and his unique perspective on the intersection of tradition and modern dining.

About Janet Zuccarini

Janet Zuccarini is the dynamic CEO and owner of Gusto 54 Restaurant Group, renowned for its innovative and high-quality dining experiences across multiple locations in North America. With a strong entrepreneurial spirit, she has transformed the culinary landscape, earning accolades such as being named one of Canada's Most Powerful Women and receiving the prestigious Top 100 Women Entrepreneurs Award. Zuccarini is celebrated for her commitment to sustainability and community engagement, making her a prominent figure in the restaurant industry. Her passion for food and dedication to excellence make her an inspiring leader and a fascinating guest, as she shares insights into the art of hospitality and the challenges of running a successful restaurant group.

Key Moments

– Italian Cuisine
– Restaurant Industry
– Pandemic Impact
– Culinary Tradition
– Food Authenticity
– Restaurant Economics
– Gluten Intolerance
– Food Preparation Techniques
– Michelin Guide
– Farm-to-Table
– Seasonality
– Food Terroir
– Restaurant Management
– Food Criticism
– Culinary Education
– Supply Chain
– Immune System and Nutrition
– Restaurant Awards
– Food Preservation
– Restaurant Recovery Strategies
0:00:00 – Introduction and initial greetings
0:04:01 – Pandemic reveals restaurant industry's profit margin challenges
0:07:01 – Discussion on mask and shield protocols in restaurants
0:09:18 – Passion and challenges of handmade food business
0:15:00 – Evan Funke's cooking style described as casalinga
0:19:13 – Gluten intolerance developed from exposure to raw flour
0:21:28 – Customer appreciation and feedback on authentic cooking
0:26:23 – Balancing public health concerns with economic needs
0:30:31 – Historical restaurant profit margins and current struggles
0:33:47 – Restaurants as major purchasers from farmers and institutions
0:38:22 – Pandemic forces closure of large Toronto restaurant project
0:41:25 – Expectations for pandemic duration until vaccine availability
0:43:33 – Comparison of protests and looting in Los Angeles and Toronto
0:48:02 – Necessity of discomfort for societal change
0:50:10 – Systemic issues in society and policing discussed
0:53:29 – Motivation behind cooking and hospitality work
0:56:13 – Steak cooking techniques and customer instructions
1:04:13 – Coaxing flavor nuances from regional ingredients
1:09:14 – Patio space importance for restaurants during pandemic
1:14:50 – Role of celebrities and social scenes in restaurant culture
1:18:30 – Word of mouth as key to restaurant success
1:22:36 – Italian approach to cooking and reverence for tradition
1:26:59 – Impact of CARES Act on unemployment in restaurant industry
1:28:28 – Optimism about moving forward despite challenges
1:31:01 – Transition to sending prepackaged steaks for home cooking
1:33:42 – Mastery of traditional cooking methods and fire control
1:38:56 – Sourcing produce from multiple farms and microclimates
1:40:13 – Terroir concept applied to fruits and vegetables
1:42:10 – Selecting and cooking different animal muscles
1:44:06 – Understanding clientele and kitchen size limitations
1:46:00 – Economic impact of restaurant revenue circulation
1:48:17 – Faith in industry creativity despite government shortcomings
1:50:32 – Confidence in surviving pandemic and closing remarks

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 And we're rolling. Starting point is 00:00:11 Yes, but Felix is still intact. Starting point is 00:00:25 Very happy to hear that. Starting point is 00:00:43 I'd be like, well, if it happened in L in LA, it kind of makes sense that people are upset. Starting point is 00:01:02 Put that fucker up there. Starting point is 00:01:14 think there's been, you know, thousands and thousands Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. Where's your iPhone made? Where are you going to get your shoes made from? Starting point is 00:01:52 It's the perfect storm of craziness, right? Starting point is 00:02:09 No warning. Starting point is 00:02:21 Hey, so are you open? Starting point is 00:02:52 So I'm sitting there at home reading all three cross-referencing and we basically have to Starting point is 00:03:19 I think if you were open full capacity, you'd be fucking sold out instantly. Starting point is 00:04:01 the pandemic really showed the inherent weakness of this industry that we run on razor thin profit margins. Now we're allowed to be seated at 60%. Starting point is 00:04:56 be open 100 the same thing with the comedy store the comedy store has no idea when they're going Starting point is 00:05:44 But nobody knows anything. Starting point is 00:06:02 At the very basis of it, you know, there's got to be an employee log. Starting point is 00:06:27 get up to go to the bathroom in the Starting point is 00:06:44 mask if you already have a shield over your face? Starting point is 00:07:01 And it's on the honor system. Starting point is 00:07:15 If they want to come, let them. Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh, it was fantastic. Starting point is 00:07:43 They were less than full capacity. Starting point is 00:07:59 Yeah. Starting point is 00:08:14 That's what polls are. Starting point is 00:08:36 Joe Blow two tables over coughs, and then you're sitting indoors. Starting point is 00:09:18 always been disgusting and if you don't love this business to the core, it's fuckin...

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