Avi Loeb

Date: 2021-01-16 | Duration: 2h 30m

Category: Paranormal & Conspiracy, Science

Episode Overview

Avi Loeb, Harvard astronomy professor and author of Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth, joins Joe (recommended by their mutual friend Lex Fridman) to make the case that the interstellar object Oumuamua — spotted in October 2017 only as it was already receding away — was not a natural object but potentially a piece of alien technology. Loeb explains why the scientific community is institutionally shy about this subject (no funding, no careers, no news), why he thinks conflict is necessary for progress, and how humanity's typical response to inconvenient evidence is to simply not look for it. They discuss what definitive proof of extraterrestrial intelligence would look like, and Loeb promises to come back when they find it.

About Avi Loeb

Avi Loeb, PhD, is a distinguished theoretical physicist and the Frank B. Baird, Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University, renowned for his groundbreaking work in astrophysics and cosmology. He gained widespread attention for his bold theories on extraterrestrial life and the interstellar object 'Oumuamua,' which he posits could be a probe from an advanced civilization. As the author of several influential books, including "Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth," Loeb challenges conventional scientific paradigms, sparking debates on the existence of life beyond our planet. His captivating insights and unyielding curiosity make him a compelling voice in contemporary science, inviting listeners to rethink humanity's place in the universe.

Key Moments

– Oumuamua — the interstellar object that may have been alien technology
– Why scientific institutions avoid the extraterrestrial intelligence topic
– Conflict as necessary for scientific progress
– Humanity's pattern of not looking for inconvenient evidence
– What definitive proof of extraterrestrial life would look like
– Lex Fridman connection — how Loeb got on JRE
0:00:00 – Avi — friend of Lex Fridman who highly recommends you
0:23:02 – Conflict is necessary — yin and yang for scientific improvement
0:46:32 – Oumuamua spotted in October 2017 — only as it was already receding
1:06:44 – If the scientific community shies away, the public is starved
1:25:19 – Caesars in Rome had someone saying 'memento mori' — humility in triumph
2:26:34 – Extraterrestrial — the first signs of intelligent life beyond Earth

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Hello, Avi. Thanks for having me. My pleasure. I'm very good friends with your friend, Lex Friedman, and he highly recommends you as well. Oh, thank you. with your friend, Lex Friedman, Starting point is 00:00:24 and he highly recommends you as well. Oh, thank you. You know, he asked me about social media and I told him I have no footprint on social media. He said, why? And I said, I promised my wife when I married her not to have any account. And he said, I should get married. Yeah, he reads accounts. Starting point is 00:00:42 He says he doesn't, but then he does. He reads like comments and stuff and then he gets mad at things people say. It's kind of funny. Yeah, you see, I save the time. I don't even read what other people say. Good for you. And I don't care how many likes I have. That's the other thing. Starting point is 00:00:54 That's wonderful. That's a freedom. Yeah, exactly. That's an underrated freedom. Yeah. You came on my radar when you were discussing Amuamua. Is that how I said? Yes, that's the right thing. Starting point is 00:01:06 Amuamua, which is an object that we detected in space that you believe could possibly have been extraterrestrial in origin, meaning from some sort of a civilization. Right. Yeah. Why did you... Please explain to people what Amuamua is, why it's so extraordinary, and why you think it's possible that it came from some other intelligent civilization. Right. So I'm a scientist, and I basically follow the evidence, just like Sherlock Holmes, trying to find solutions. Starting point is 00:01:38 It's a detective story. You have some anomalies, some things that don't quite match what you expected, and you're trying to find an explanation. And the thing about Oumuamua is that it was discovered on October 19th, 2017, a little more than three years ago. And it was the very first object that visited our vicinity in the solar syste...

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