Josh Dubin

Date: 2021-06-09 | Duration: 2h 53m

Episode Overview

Josh Dubin joins the podcast to discuss his extensive work in criminal justice reform, focusing on wrongful convictions and the clemency process. He shares compelling stories about cases where DNA evidence and witness testimony were misused or ignored, leading to innocent people being imprisoned for years, sometimes even on death row. Dubin emphasizes the complexity of false confessions, explaining how extreme pressure and trauma can cause individuals to admit to crimes they didn’t commit, challenging common assumptions about guilt and innocence. The conversation also delves into systemic issues within the legal system, including prosecutorial misconduct, jury selection biases, and the challenges of achieving bipartisan reform. Dubin highlights the importance of finding common ground across political divides to address problems like no-knock raids disproportionately affecting communities of color. Alongside these serious topics, the episode touches on Dubin’s personal experiences and reflections on leadership, resilience, and the human side of justice work, offering listeners a nuanced view of the fight to correct miscarriages of justice and improve the system from within.

About Josh Dubin

Josh Dubin is a prominent civil rights attorney and the Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, where he advocates for comprehensive criminal justice reform. With a track record of challenging wrongful convictions and fighting systemic injustices, Dubin has made significant strides in promoting equitable legal practices. He is particularly known for his innovative work in utilizing technology and data-driven approaches to address issues within the justice system. Dubin's compelling insights into the intersections of law, technology, and social equity make him a captivating voice in the ongoing dialogue about justice reform, as showcased in his appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience.

Key Moments

– Criminal Justice Reform
– Wrongful Convictions
– Clemency Process
– Police Accountability
– Jury Selection
– DNA Evidence
– False Confessions
– Prosecutorial Misconduct
– Race and Policing
– Gun Control
– Leadership
– Mixed Martial Arts
– Performance Enhancing Drugs
– Sports Doping Scandals
– Public Health Initiatives
– Mental Health and Trauma
– Media Influence on Justice
– Federal vs State Courts
– Jury Psychology
– Innocence Project
0:00:00 – Introduction to Josh Dubin and the podcast
0:06:05 – Role and responsibilities in criminal justice reform
0:09:13 – Finding common ground with President Trump
0:11:56 – Use of DNA evidence in exonerations
0:20:53 – Impact of no-knock raids on communities of color
0:26:56 – Challenges in bipartisan criminal justice reform
0:29:53 – Public perception and trust in political leaders
0:33:26 – Concerns about self-righteousness in activism
0:37:25 – Complexities of police shootings and investigations
0:42:45 – Case study: Albert Wilson wrongful conviction
0:47:01 – Importance of skepticism and critical thinking
0:49:15 – Arguments against police involvement in traffic stops
0:52:52 – Leadership qualities exemplified by Jocko Willink
0:55:34 – Balancing police abuse and respect for law enforcement
1:00:01 – Public health as a human rights crisis
1:18:01 – Discussion of documentary Icarus and doping scandals
1:26:48 – Treating clemency as a serious legal process
1:31:32 – Challenges with governor decisions on clemency
1:40:16 – Understanding false confessions and their psychology
1:47:47 – Book discussion: The Law of Juries
2:08:34 – Federal jury selection process and its flaws
2:20:26 – Use of peremptory challenges in jury selection
2:25:26 – Difficulties in determining truth in court
2:29:18 – Character development through adversity
2:31:20 – Recommendation of American Injustice book
2:43:07 – Decline in public respect for police post-George Floyd
2:48:06 – Importance of camaraderie and human connection
2:51:21 – Emotional toll and need for hope in justice work
2:54:29 – Resources and how to support Innocence Project

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 the Joe Rogan experience Joshua good to see you what's happening I'm uh I'm just in awe I love the the new digs man thank you super happy for you it's come together. If you were here six months ago, it would look pretty shitty. But Matt Alvarez has kicked some ass. So let's continue this conversation. Okay. Starting point is 00:00:32 Because you guys are just talking about golf. And you're talking about how you don't want to hate golf, but you enjoy it. It's like an inevitability, which happens. It's happened the one or two times I've played this year by a whole 12 out of 18. You're like, I want to get the fuck out of here. I suck. Oh. I'm tired of sucking. Starting point is 00:00:51 That's what it is. Let's end this suck. Have you hired someone to coach you? No, no, no, no. I don't want to get that far yet. That's like, I feel like you can't come back. But wouldn't that, I would imagine that it's like anything else. It's like if you don't get a coach, then you learn bad habits, and those are hard to break. Starting point is 00:01:06 Yes, but I am breaking bad habits I had started with from like my whole life of everyone trying to say, like in the four or five times you play, you're doing this wrong, keep your head down, we'll watch the ball for you, all that kind of shit. Oh. I just started swinging the club however I wanted to, and the ball was going straight and far. Starting point is 00:01:23 And I was like, that's the goal of golf, right? Straight, far. At least you know where it's going. They were all talking shit about you the other day at barbecue. I'm sure. They were like, Jamie just whacks the ball as far as he can. That's what Tony says. That's exactly what Tony would say. Of course, because Tony saw me play golf once and he can't hit as far as me. Starting point is 00:01:40 Oh, so it's envy. A little. And you were saying that you don't like it, Josh. You don't. I don't know if it's driven by me sucking or if it's that the cult...

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