Bret Weinstein & Dr. Pierre Kory

Date: 2021-06-22 | Duration: 2h 58m

Episode Overview

Bret Weinstein and Dr. Pierre Kory engage in a detailed discussion about the controversial use of ivermectin in the treatment and prevention of COVID-19. They explore the evolving scientific evidence, highlighting meta-analyses and clinical trials that suggest ivermectin’s antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties may significantly reduce COVID-19 transmission, severity, and mortality. Both emphasize the drug’s long history of safety and its potential to drive the virus toward extinction if widely adopted. They also critique the regulatory and institutional responses, pointing to what they describe as censorship and suppression of dissenting scientific voices, particularly on platforms like YouTube, which has limited discussion around ivermectin and other repurposed drugs. The conversation also delves into the challenges of scientific consensus during a rapidly evolving pandemic, noting how shifting guidelines and incomplete data have fueled confusion and mistrust. Weinstein and Kory discuss the lab leak theory’s initial dismissal and eventual reconsideration, framing it as an example of how inconvenient scientific findings can be marginalized. Additionally, they touch on the broader implications of pharmaceutical industry influence, arguing that profit motives have shaped public health policies and hindered the adoption of inexpensive, effective treatments. Throughout, they share insights from frontline clinical experience and advocate for open, transparent scientific debate to better address COVID-19 and future health crises.

About Bret Weinstein

Bret Weinstein is a prominent evolutionary biologist and former professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, renowned for his insightful perspectives on science, politics, and social issues. He gained widespread attention during a significant controversy at Evergreen, which sparked national debate over free speech and progressive activism, drawing coverage from major media outlets like the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. As a co-host of the popular podcast "The DarkHorse Podcast," Bret engages listeners with discussions on biology, culture, and the complexities of contemporary society, making him a compelling voice in the ongoing dialogue about the intersection of science and social values.

About Dr. Pierre Kory

Dr. Pierre Kory is a distinguished ICU and lung specialist renowned for his advocacy of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19. As a founding member of the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), he has been at the forefront of the debate surrounding early treatment protocols during the pandemic, garnering both support and controversy. Dr. Kory's passionate presentations and clinical insights have made him a prominent voice in discussions about alternative COVID-19 therapies, captivating audiences with his unwavering commitment to patient care and evidence-based medicine. His appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience highlighted his expertise and the complexities of navigating medical treatment amidst a global health crisis.

Key Moments

– Ivermectin
– COVID-19 Transmission
– Medical Censorship
– Scientific Consensus
– Clinical Trials
– Vaccine Safety
– Long COVID
– Public Health Policy
– Pharmaceutical Industry
– Antiviral Therapeutics
– Meta-Analysis
– Lab Leak Theory
– Mask Effectiveness
– Viral Immunity
– Observational Studies
– Randomized Controlled Trials
– Spike Protein
– Health Misinformation
– Nonprofit Medical Advocacy
– Drug Repurposing
0:01:02 – Introduction to ivermectin and early COVID concerns
0:02:44 – Emerging evidence on ivermectin effectiveness
0:05:10 – YouTube strikes related to ivermectin content
0:06:06 – WHO and CDC vaccine recommendations for children
0:08:34 – Studies supporting ivermectin usage
0:11:10 – Definition of deceptive medical information
0:13:27 – Modes of COVID-19 transmission explained
0:19:29 – Discussion on lab leak theory of COVID-19
0:21:20 – Risks of censoring true information
0:30:07 – Scientific consensus challenges during pandemic
0:42:02 – Importance of large trials and meta-analyses
0:44:17 – Ivermectin’s antiviral properties and history
0:47:30 – Value of randomized controlled trials
0:51:06 – Limitations of drug safety knowledge pre-market
0:55:05 – Ivermectin’s impact on viral syndromes
0:59:02 – Ivermectin’s potential to drive virus extinction
1:03:09 – Frontline worker ivermectin prophylaxis trial results
1:10:01 – Ivermectin opposition and policy conflicts
1:19:17 – Economic incentives in pharmaceutical industry
1:22:04 – Ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment advocate
1:27:49 – Government communication gaps with medical experts
1:32:26 – Basic reproduction number (R0) and ivermectin effects
1:36:07 – Ivermectin efficacy against COVID variants
1:38:11 – Skepticism and evidence-based medicine critique
1:40:12 – Publication bias in ivermectin studies
1:46:52 – Cost considerations of ivermectin treatment
1:48:19 – Media interviews and balanced representation
1:50:49 – Regulatory capture and information control
1:53:30 – Ivermectin for unvaccinated population segments
2:06:13 – Ivermectin’s role in treating long COVID
2:11:06 – Nonprofit organization’s medical advocacy
2:14:38 – Spike protein use in vaccines explained
2:20:30 – Detection challenges of circulating spike protein
2:25:38 – Challenges in admitting scientific mistakes
2:28:07 – Consequences of censoring medical misinformation
2:33:27 – IV treatment protocols in hospitals
2:35:16 – YouTube censorship of mRNA vaccine inventor
2:40:32 – Totality of evidence supporting ivermectin
2:44:12 – Deliberate exclusion of ivermectin evidence
2:49:12 – Arguments against censorship and channel loss
2:52:15 – Global impact of misinformation and hope for change

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 the Joe Rogan experience Starting point is 00:01:02 ivermectin. And I'll just say through our Starting point is 00:01:51 early days, it was scary. We didn't know if it was transmitted on surfaces or what. So Heather and I Starting point is 00:02:44 working through the various emerging evidence and figuring out what we believed and what we didn't and why we ran into ivermectin. And there was this indication that it was effective against COVID. Starting point is 00:03:23 specialty. In fact, he's the Starting point is 00:03:58 And Ivermectin, the first paper was last about March or April. Starting point is 00:04:37 molecules make it from the bench to the bedside. And so, but it was an emergency, right? It was a Starting point is 00:05:10 said on YouTube led to your channel getting now one strike on one channel and is three strikes Starting point is 00:06:06 Because obviously it can't be everybody now because we have the WHO is now saying that you shouldn't vaccinate children. Starting point is 00:06:36 I think it's the CDC. Starting point is 00:06:44 Right. Starting point is 00:06:56 I've also seen recent recommendations that say Starting point is 00:07:15 should not know any more than anybody else knows. Starting point is 00:07:40 The drugs that they favor and the ones that they don't, Starting point is 00:08:07 So meaning, so the WHO- Starting point is 00:08:34 Well, yes, there are studies. So there are studies showing some support, Starting point is 00:09:06 The thing about, one of the things about ivermectin is it's been around so long, Starting point is 00:09:24 This becomes part of the issue with highlighting it, right? Starting point is 00:09:40 So YouTube has done a couple things. Starting point is 00:10:35 Spammers, deceivers. Starting point is 00:11:10 But the second one was more specific. It was clearer. And what they said was deceptive medical information. So part of what we should discuss today is what it means for Starting point...

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