Laurie Woolever

Date: 2021-08-26 | Duration: 1h 41m

Episode Overview

Laurie Woolever reflects on her decade-long experience as Anthony Bourdain’s assistant, offering intimate insights into the late chef’s complex personality and career. She discusses Bourdain’s struggles with anxiety, addiction, and the pressures of fame, revealing how his humor often masked deeper pain. Laurie shares candid stories about their time backstage at UFC events, his dedication to jiu-jitsu, and his relentless curiosity about the world, which fueled his unique approach to food and travel. She highlights how Bourdain’s authenticity and vulnerability made him a compelling figure both on and off camera. The conversation also delves into the demanding nature of the culinary world, with Laurie describing the intense discipline and physical toll of kitchen life. She touches on Bourdain’s evolving relationship with sobriety and how his experiences shaped his outlook on life and work. Laurie reflects on the legacy Bourdain left behind, emphasizing his role in changing perceptions of food as an art form and cultural expression. Throughout, she honors his memory with a mix of admiration and sorrow, acknowledging the lasting impact of his voice in today’s social and cultural landscape.

About Laurie Woolever

Laurie Woolever is a celebrated author and culinary expert best known for her work, "Bourdain: The Definitive Oral Biography," which offers a profound insight into the life and legacy of the late Anthony Bourdain. With a rich background in food writing and editing, she has contributed to various prestigious publications, showcasing her deep understanding of culinary culture. As the co-host of the "Carbface for Radio" podcast, Laurie brings her unique perspective to the intersection of food, travel, and storytelling, making her a captivating figure in the culinary world. Her ability to weave personal narratives with broader cultural themes not only honors Bourdain's legacy but also resonates with food enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

Key Moments

– Anthony Bourdain
– Suicide and Mental Health
– Mixed Martial Arts
– Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
– Culinary Arts
– Sobriety and Addiction
– Travel and Culture
– Food Anthropology
– Professional Kitchens
– Hunting and Outdoor Sports
– Television Production
– Personal Relationships
– Food Fermentation
– Cultural Cuisine
– Mental Health Stigma
– Physical Fitness
– Narrative Storytelling
– Alcoholics Anonymous
– Food Media
– Legacy and Memory
0:00:00 – Introduction to Laurie Woolever and episode context
0:02:04 – Reflections on suicide and personal loss
0:03:20 – Discussion of Anthony Bourdain's interest in jiu-jitsu
0:07:28 – Laurie’s experience as Anthony Bourdain’s assistant
0:10:22 – Anthony’s curiosity and engagement with new activities
0:13:58 – Beginning of Laurie and Anthony’s relationship
0:16:29 – Explaining kitchen shorthand and restaurant scaling
0:20:22 – Anthony’s humility despite success
0:24:05 – Anthony’s self-awareness as a chef
0:25:20 – Impact of Anthony Bourdain’s show Parts Unknown
0:28:00 – Authenticity in Anthony’s personality and media presence
0:30:56 – Struggles with addiction and sobriety
0:35:12 – Anthony’s views on diet, salt, and health
0:36:36 – Hormone replacement and physical competition preparation
0:39:08 – Physical conflict and male mental health needs
0:42:10 – Consistency and growth in creative work
0:44:10 – Addiction and relationship challenges
0:45:39 – Stigma around alcoholism and recovery
0:49:51 – Favorite moments of Anthony’s struggles and recovery
0:52:13 – Laurie’s approach to writing Anthony’s story
0:53:57 – Difficult months following Anthony’s death
0:56:09 – Behind the scenes of Parts Unknown
0:58:21 – Vietnamese cuisine and cultural authenticity
1:03:07 – Social perspectives and listening skills
1:06:37 – Viking strongmen and fermented foods
1:07:46 – Laurie’s introduction to pheasant hunting
1:11:19 – Eating freshly hunted game by firelight
1:13:02 – Military-style precision in Anthony’s work ethic
1:15:09 – Kitchen life as a way to cope with hardship
1:18:08 – Luxury and smoothness in kitchenware
1:20:30 – Sri Lankan cooking style and challenges
1:22:39 – Fermented rice flour pancake 'hoppers'
1:24:26 – Anthony’s baking interests
1:25:12 – Anthony’s cooking show with his wife Janet
1:30:15 – Laurie’s reflections on working with Anthony
1:33:39 – Anthony’s dark humor about suicide
1:35:46 – Loss of Anthony’s voice in current times
1:37:05 – Anthony’s curiosity and pursuit of understanding

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 the Joe Rogan experience Starting point is 00:00:15 thank you same to you Starting point is 00:01:05 me out because that was the that was the dominant conversation on opening weekend and it really Starting point is 00:01:33 I just wasn't I just wasn't ready to watch something like that. Starting point is 00:02:04 There's always this feeling when someone takes their own life, like, if I could have just talked to them. Starting point is 00:02:53 Like a guy who was so interesting and so loved, you know. Starting point is 00:03:20 and Maynard really into jiu-jitsu too. Starting point is 00:03:56 It's painful, but it's almost like it's painful later. Starting point is 00:04:09 Like if I text him, it's not there. Starting point is 00:04:30 something. Starting point is 00:05:06 And he said, no, don't come. Starting point is 00:05:26 And I'm always hesitant to talk too much about all of that. Starting point is 00:06:02 I think he felt humiliated honestly you know and I Starting point is 00:06:50 You know, clearly there's you know, there are plenty of people who have trouble in their relationships who stay alive. Starting point is 00:07:28 I was his assistant for 10 years. Starting point is 00:08:26 and um they were uh there for the UFC and I met him backstage okay it was like wow Starting point is 00:09:01 Like I've said a couple of real stupid things to him too and I'll just Starting point is 00:09:30 Oh God, Starting point is 00:09:37 He just, Starting point is 00:09:51 and really smart, articulate, funny guy. Starting point is 00:10:22 to get involved with it well Wow, that's very nice. Starting point is 00:10:44 It's not like taking up squash which maybe squash is hard Starting point is 00:11:36 into it he was like he was really he wanted to ask questions he wanted to go over moves I was like Starting point is 00:12:07 He was successful. Starting point is 00:12:21 I'm going to stick to yoga and weight training. Starting point is 00:12:34 That'...

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