Joe Rogan Experience #1899 — Yannis Pappas Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Just been in Austin, did the Vulcan this weekend. It's a tough town to have solid shit in. There's a little fiber in those. A little tiny bit. Yeah. Yeah, but it's the fucking best barbecue on earth. It's a common way they prepare meat. know, like the Jews, that's the way they handle their brisket and their corned beef and stuff

2:10 Their cuisine is atrocious. Yeah. You know, I think Yeah. They don't know over anybody. Right, yeah. I mean, they invaded Greece World War II. you could get people to fight easier. What the fuck is this? This is too good. immigrant Italian food. and they would make everything very filling and, you know and a lot of pasta and a lot of breading in the meatballs and lasagna and all that stuff.

4:02 That's fucking American food. Like, I mean, how authentic is, there's a lot of Americanized Chinese food with a heavy And yeah, I don't think they have Oh, sort of like when you get Chilean sea bass. Nice. when you get all the, what is it called? Oh, my God. It's called kokoretsi, You spell it differently, right? Yeah, we do the lamb, dude. His wife is, but she only eats lamb.

6:40 Yeah. Like if you have a veal parmesan, you're eating a baby cow. Because the veal thing is actually a process where they give a baby cow anemia. It's a very small amount of meat that's on it in comparison to a cow, obviously. be perfect right with bear though or else you gotta like yeah what you're But then human bear encounters rose by over 200%.

9:11 for a bear to get big enough to fuck you up. They're like real predators. But they're 100% capable of killing you. Did you ever see that video of the two duking it out in Far Rockaway, New Jersey? Cars are pulled over and stopped. Those are big-ass bears, man. they're fighting over. Or both of those things. Like, if that thing chased you down and wanted to kill you, you would have zero chance of

11:01 Yeah. than grizzly bears are with people. It's not as many as car accidents and heart attacks, but it could get high. Bear spray doesn't necessarily work. And if you kill one and eat it, people will absolutely get furious at you. You know, they're a part of the ecosystem. I always wonder about that because the deer fawns, the mother just leaves the fawn, right?

13:25 Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Probably two years back in the day where things were rougher. They're fully grown. of all squirrels that motherfucker loves squirrels he's got it out for squirrels got it out for Yeah. Oh, no. We had to get tomato juice. solvents you could buy at the pet store to clean that And my dog's sweet, too. Because my dog's ready to fucking do jujitsu, fuck it up.

16:46 And they're tiny. It was like real close to skunk looking. I was 13. The smell is so potent up close. Well, that's wafting up smell. Yeah. Apparently, that's what it's like to be a bloodhound. 900% more powerful. We'll find out what the actual number is. Like nine million more smell receptors in their nose or something? Yeah. When you think about how smart we are, we're pretty smart.

20:13 Yeah. Yeah. Do you? That's all I know. through the fucking woods with a bunch of guys with guns. Yeah. Right? We're totally detached. Yeah, but there's probably some atrophy and just natural detection and senses. Yeah, and smell probably was super important back then right because like you'd be able to smell this wafty smell of elk. like take it to the nose gym

22:20 That's part of their gig is they smell it, right? i don't play shit yeah so i don't know what the fuck's going on. And like, they could see it. No wonder. Probably not. Yeah, me too. Some people have better brains. Yeah. You're out of your fucking mind. His special was so good. And he'd been working on it for five years and it showed, man. That's really what it was.

25:23 It was just really tight, and he seemed playful with it, and he's had such an amazing life And saying like, hey, man, you have that too in your religion. It's a 3,000-page bill. You got it 48 hours ago. And how much did you read of that bill? That's what the Bible is like. I think that's great about it. get to a position and they control people and they control people with an ideology.

28:07 Well, everybody's listening to me now. Well, how far this time, I was watching a Knicks. And so my head was blown. what straight guys have to go through just to fucking Bam, inundated. and he's successful and everywhere he goes that fucking thing's blowing up like if you're on those Whatever it is. You could basically order pussy to your house like like food delivery

31:03 But now I want, like, a long,, drawn out death because of the metaverse. I got a wife. Maybe it like, keep me alive. I'm in the metaverse. I got a girlfriend. I got a house. I got a wife. Well, maybe it'll keep you alive they take your fucking heart out and you're still alive. And they get something that just keeps your heart beating. right he has a feeling that it's an Asian woman Wow yeah just randomly I

32:50 that they can do that yeah yeah and they're gonna be able to 3d print them man that's gonna be the Yeah. There'll be no more Bobby Kellys. but the flawed perfection or your Louis C.K.'s Yeah. Quasars exist. I think whether it's a thousand years from now or a hundred thousand years from now, We're like little fucking But then it restarts the the universe doesn't give a fuck about time if the whole earth

36:20 It's weak this what we are survived getting hit by a planet Well, that's a good question. Whoa. Imagine seeing that. into interstellar space, We get hit by a planet, son. right at the end of the day the universe if you keep going that that fucking alpha centauri doesn't Because we have a goal. Now that I have kids, I care more. He had a good spot. just had it hit a good spot

39:41 about the evidence that points to the fact that human beings probably were super advanced somewhere before 12,000 years ago and we got smacked by comet debris. No, no, no, no, no. The idea is that anatomically similar human beings, they used to think that anatomical human beings were only like 50,000 years old. Pick it up, dude. It's all barbarians and crazy folks and syphilis and fucking hacking people to death and shooting arrows at them and shit.

41:26 Well, the Chinese were the first to figure out gunpowder, but they did it for fireworks. Well, they're stealing all the intellectual property. Yeah. It's a little different. I know how to stay calm. Interesting. You still live in Game of Thrones style. Yeah. Once we figured out a little security, we were able to let our mind and imagination go. Yeah they think that that had

43:16 We probably killed a few too I think what like I think it's Asians and Europeans, Caucasians, Yeah? like they found bones that were they i think they lived there what was it like 16 17 000 years ago But the ocean during the Ice Age was like 400 meters lower, And that's what they think like in order to preserve resources these people just got really small interesting

45:30 You leave lizards on an island, they get bigger. Like they never stop growing. Also, they can chew through brick. rat. Did they have a legend of a tiny I'm just taking a guess. Kauai. Oh, wow. I don't know. This bulletin claimed the Hawaiian culture was altered under the influence of on the island of flores they found bones and they found tools so they think these were in some way

49:08 Floriessis? So when did they think the- The Homo floresiensis skeletal material is now dated from 60,000 years anatomically similar humans and eventually those are probably eaten by insects and other creatures like over the course of like a hundred years or a thousand years or Right. Wow. and she's swatting mosquitoes, They're coming towards you. a supernatural fiction.

52:20 Just like bears do? Yeah, baboons will steal your baby and eat it. Yeah. They lack manners sometimes And shit No Komodo dragons are a thing of nightmares but they're big and they live on an Those are all the descendants of the Vikings. What is that? 100%. Wasn't enough sun. People had to stay alive. So they had to adapt. Yes. Yeah? You need a little yang to your yang.

55:08 They've got to ship in their people. Figure it out. What the fuck are you doing? I wonder why they haven't figured it out. We got it all figured out. out of there. Suck that water. Fuck that water. We got lakes. plants, but as far as I know, they never scaled as long as they make sure all the fail safes are in place and doesn't both go down I don't know what to do.

57:46 When people run in for governor, they never say, hey, we got all this water. Just constantly employ the entire state. Yeah. You're wasting water. And it all went into his toilet. Something similar to that. Yeah. He's the ice bucket challenge. He did? And it like all went into his toilet. I feel like he did that. Yeah, still wasting water. That's still water out of the pipe!

59:47 Yeah. Yeah. You know, people probably do that in LA too Say, God, what I had to do We have strong opinions and no information, which is a great combination when you're dealing Yeah. and you're involved in a Hey. Someone call that a tax haven. But he was explaining how these tokens are essentially unregulated, but it's almost like you're owning stock or

1:02:29 Yes. to the exchange. Like, well, you can keep 10% of that. Whether people are going to be like, fuck you, I got your money. the exact same time because this guy was this wonder kid who? Like some high-level, like serious shenanigans. but a YouTuber was paid to make Because Elon's a serious dude. Say, we're going to buy Twitter for $44. Right. He's going to know basically what you can and can't.

1:05:58 Happened super fast. It's on Reddit. And he probably thought he could get away with doing what he was doing. And also, you're banging nine people in a house together. Right. It's like, oh, there's this thing. we have with centralized currency and the federal government controlling everything and Compared to a dollar. Let's google it right now. How much is each Dogecoin worth? Eight and a half cents.

1:08:55 See, that's the one that people count on the most as being semi-stable. It's a company that's doing something that you can understand. There are absolutely crypto billionaires out there. Bitcoin. He goes to a strip shop and he just... Bitcoin. But how much – so that whole issue with the amount of energy it takes to store them on the blockchain or whatever,

1:10:55 If they had a digital currency that the government controlled, we'd be fucked. Like with Larry David? I'm not speaking from a place of knowledge, People got mad at them when it crashed. They're selling what the Diaz brothers like to call wolf tickets. No. She's got problems with the man. That's a new thing I don't understand. What is the difference between a token, which is one of the points of contention about this FTX thing, and a coin?

1:14:15 because, like, look, I'm not a smart dude, right? Yeah, you're never going to get it. It's the shit you do when you're frozen in for eight months at a time and you're in the middle of the north of Canada. You know like the people that were in the audience the the place where you walk through when you get seat well just play the other one in that 17 billion dollar round

1:16:17 you to play the video, the YouTube video has more of it. And the YouTube video also, I wanted to YouTube page. Each day being a new episode in real time. him answering, yes, I'm on the run. But anyway, more and more high-level people are sharing their experiences with SBF In his All In podcast, Shamath Palihapitiya also shared his own experience with Bankman Freed,

1:19:01 ran this cheat, stole millions of dollars. are highly levered, folks that don't have the right matching of risk. And what happens is they're solvent but illiquid. said, yeah, I'll take that as collateral. don't want to. But there were an enormous number of venture firms that talked their way into just venture firms in Silicon Valley in this period of both not doing any work or diligence,

1:22:05 inside of that trend what you're going to see and brian just mentioned this those were the sale of They used these celebrities to endorse it, And they go, stop asking for an explanation. money. So of course they're going to have classes and teach You can make money this way. It's crazy. I want that dude drinking carrot juice. You can't have those man tits now hanging and give you a billion dollars of Bitcoin. Some 26-year-old kid lives in the Bahamas.

1:24:49 was real now what is this shit about them sending money to ukraine and the money from ukraine being That's this, but what I'm talking about is the... to the Democrat Party. They're the second biggest donor to the Democrat Party. His mom, right? and then gets a bunch of money Right, and then that's why I didn't, This new fake thing. Isn't he? died, but someone else died, too. Like that.

1:28:48 and did his own version of it. New York Post was reporting this stuff, too. for bankruptcy days after the election, but not before pumping 40 million into the democratic party to spend on get out the vote and other shadowy ballot harvesting mechanics for the midterms find, and of course his money was built on thin air. I mean, now Reuters is reporting that between $1 billion and $2 billion of customer funds have vanished from FTX,

1:31:42 It's like. There's Bitcoins that are sponsoring sports. greedy fucking hat for one second and asked some fucking questions about what's actually going on they There's something weird about it. And with that money, he was able to get the Dalai Lama and a couple other people that gave I was like, yeah. that's how you know people are stupid It's definitely not the Bahamas.

1:34:20 Yeah, he just went to the Bahamas. Oh, he was so good at it. I mean, but you know the Democratic Party should have done a little due diligence, been like, what is this? They didn't look at the stealing hand. I mean, but you know the Democratic Party should have done a little due diligence. If this lady set it up with her son and he's fucking funneling that money, yeehaw, let's go.

1:35:34 More than one. I'm not the government. We need money. Isn't that kind of editorializing? into the EA cult when he SBF says he has some ADD and has never read a book. on what happens comes in, Always. Yeah, so he cleaned his dirty money by donating it to the Democratic Party. But his private jet went to Argentina. It seems like they're going to get him.

1:38:57 Something's got to go wrong. Like, how many people? Oh, did he get to the last letter? Who knows what's going on? And then if we pull off what we're trying to pull off, which is less damage in the midterms, But now everybody knows. We're too dumb for this. and it was almost in a shit-talking response. found out in that crypto world it seems like it's much more ambiguous where everything is

1:41:49 for that gentleman whose video we played was his name Chamath say his last name capital. So there's a leak I was like, oh, great. in a conspiracy stuff. The Don't give up now. wild wild thing it is that dude if he just played it right he just played it right be rich as fuck by evil people with their own selfish needs. laundering money through Ukraine and this is on coin chapter comm says Brian

1:45:05 See if that's the same guy. Hey, I'm a good guy. I know the general of what happened. There is kid fucking going on and then people get on the internet and they just start making connections that maybe aren't there. And then the list never got published. What? Yeah. She's in a place with yoga classes. Is that what happened? who lived in PR was sounding the alarm

1:48:14 Nikolai mushegin dies at 29 in Puerto Rico I think he drowned was chugging was Wow. Meshagian? Okay. So sources told the Post Mushijian had left his home against ocean swimming, discovered his body in the waves. He'd go after things, constantly putting himself in weird positions. If it wasn't for money, Yeah, I mean Huh And you knew you were going to kill yourself

1:52:09 go, you know what, I'm going to drown myself, and he thought that that was really happening, What the fuck, man? delete shitcoin. are the only options. makes you wonder this is what makes people on like 4chan go crazy right these kind of things It's like adult fan fiction. Yeah. Watching the Big Bang. Go to sleep drunk every night. one thing I would do is make it seem ridiculous.

1:55:45 They want it. The World Economic Forum sent this tweet out in, like, 2016, has never been better imagine that she's a member of parliament in denmark and this is what they're Does that mean no one owns anything? You just live in it. This is all wild movie shit. and they're distributing it. You're also saying it when you're the World Economic Yeah. property and money?

1:58:56 A they-them. Porsche Museum? Yeah, just leave me there. It's happening left and right now. terrorism to fucking attack a iconic uh painting is terrorism and they're saying they're doing it You're doing it to further this cause that you probably have very little understanding of to a bunch of things that's going to raise these people that are dying of tuberculosis and malaria.

2:01:49 And you'll have less pollution. of cigarettes a day for everybody who lives there. No, no one's saying that. We're too far down the road now anyway. right like say if you and i were gambling we're playing pool and i won five games in a row and Get the fuck out of here. to all this carbon that's in the atmosphere. No. Isn't that hurting their pocket?

2:05:10 I mean, it seems to be a way of managing people. you know, put out something on whatever Well, they're fucking up the supply chain. They need their upgrade. and sort of said fuck you to the American worker That's sort of the flaw in our system, but it's the best flaw. It seems like you need some sort of regulation, but you also need a healthy economy.

2:07:34 communities that have existed that way forever. start making most of the stuff that we need, the future of a civilization depends on the education of citizens. That should be a priority of your empire Because it's good to have a bunch of people that don't know what the fuck is going on because those people are easier to control You need a lot of people that are gullible.

2:09:38 In a flaw in our system are in democracy, but still the best system the best system Yeah. Super profitable. And so if you can find a way to use that for good, if you can play on that for good, and capitalism is the best way to facilitate that, you know, to say, hey, here's this good you can do That's what the fuck are you talking about? And the idea is that that utopian culture is only that way because of the embargo?

2:11:57 they're all fucking poor guess who's not poor the fucking guy in power he's never poor in any of the And everybody else was eating their fucking shoes. what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah. Do you think he'd be willing to work 16 hour days and fucking sleep on the floor of the Tesla plant and at the same time run SpaceX? High-speed internet access through satellite all around the world and they're relying on Janice Pappas and Joe Rogan. We got a real fucking

2:14:17 I don't know. She lived and escaped when she was 13 years old. they were going to take over their farms and meat stew each meal. And I'm going to get rid of all the inequality. If I do that, that you can rise to compare to other people the enemy is a poverty not inequality that's some deep Like they're terrible at all this. Yeah. Seems like it's not gonna.

2:17:38 No, no, they're so fast. Like Arizona, it's only been a week. Remember when you used to Right. You really shouldn't question election results, even though everybody does right even though everybody does they all do unfortunately Some of that shit's just sore loser shit, too. They all blame Russia and fucking all kinds of other shit. Yeah. accurate. Look, they all do bad shit. But just to back up ideals for one thing, our country,

2:19:49 That's not what we're about. You don't even know them. It's probably on YouTube. And then he goes, because if I broke the law you know if you and man's laws, not God's. And if you cut them down and you're just the man to do it, do you really It's big picture thinking. Absolutely. Where did that laptop come from? They've got to go on trial. It's perfect.

2:23:06 Election policing. You have to have an ID to vote, which not having an ID to vote seems Because if you ever look at the parts of Texas that vote blue, and you just go hey maybe we shouldn't have illegal aliens in there and they just go straight Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you fly over North Korea at night who cares if it was Obama, when he was running for president, ran on that.

2:26:29 They called him the deporter-in-chief, because he deported actually more people, more illegals perfect example how there's no solutions only trade-offs the great thomas so well it's a perfect example how there's no solutions, only tradeoffs. Thomas Sowell, it's a great quote, and there's a lot of truth to it. Well, another thing that we were talking about on the way over here that we should probably talk about before we leave is what's happening in Iran.

2:27:47 And the rioting, like, what is going on right now currently in Iran? 14,000 people fighting for basic freedoms are facing the death penalty in Iran. Like, it was just like... So they're trying to threaten people and kill people to quitting. I wonder what happens if they, I mean, imagine this one girl got killed and that's what started this off. Sajjapur said the number was nearing 15,000.

2:30:52 That's what real oppression looks like. I think they're hiding their identity. Yeah, because think about think they're afraid of covid i think they're hiding their identity yeah because think about what they're doing i mean In 2022, while we're enjoying lattes from Starbucks and fucking Netflix, Yeah. Real consequences. Who's going to run this? And you're going to be happy and you're going to own nothing.

2:33:45 is not 78 genders that forever. And in every fucking Yeah, they didn't get that job if they did get that job initially to save the world We're done here. Why? Oh, listen, man. It's crazy. Wild. Everybody does it. He fucking meant it. Hey, guys, we got something. listen, if you were smart, you'd go, listen, if we overturn Roe v. Wade, if we do this and cause this, you're going to lose a lot of people that are on the fence. There's a lot of people that

2:37:50 that are important in order to have a healthy economy. And they probably are. Yeah. You don't have to do it. of children died shortly before or after childbirth. Wow. And before we were able to really sanitize it and and um use modern tech medical technology I'm just pro-life. and that there's certain religious people that think that that's the next step they want to push

2:41:13 entire half of the country persona non grata because they believe in things that are different It's a messy world. turn fucking sideways. killing a kid. You're kind of killing a kid because if it wasn't a child, if it wasn't a human, Yes. life when she could just take a Plan B pill or when she can go and Yeah. That's ridiculous. Well, I think the right has always been opposed to it.

2:44:27 but if someone told me he peed on a hooker, I'd believe he peed on a hooker. Yeah. He grabbed people by the pussy when he could. I think that's why they voted for him. have two fucking choices yeah and they're the only two viable choices the whole system's been kind of You know, that's not true either. That does happen. And how NBC removed things wrong. Oh yeah. It happens.

2:47:36 It's like it depends. Also, there's bears and fucking things that could attack my dog. But then on the flip side, I do see if everyone was packed, strapped in New York and you get Yeah. I'm sure. And also, I see that problem, too. And instead of having those states go, well, fuck you. We don't believe, we're not all trying to be I get it from her perspective because she would have won.

2:50:20 I could have taken them all. Yeah, and it it shocked them. They're like, why would they want to go through that? for the wrong person yeah yeah yeah probably would you're right that probably would have 100 for sure She's like, clean up. I guess. I mean, that's gutsy. You guys are from Arkansas. You're like, I don't know what happened, but it is weird.

2:53:09 That's an unusual business, too. What an empty, hollow existence. You don't like what you see. That's possible too, man. from his house. People get put out of pasture. and shot himself in the chest with a shotgun. At the age of 59, on May 7th, the Perry County Sheriff's Office in Arkansas confirmed. Yeah, I get it. That's an interesting way of... Perry County Sheriff Scott Montgomery

2:56:49 shoot yourself with a shotgun. obviously wild. That's one of the most sus things I've ever heard. I get it. I get it. I mean, Kevin Spacey did something wrong. Here it is, House of Cards. Is it bad? Fuck. But that show, Yeah. There's gotta Beyond feasible, yeah. Yeah. and pellets come out of his back. put it around his neck and shot himself Right, and is there a toxicology examination?

3:00:16 What would cause there to be no blood? He's missing his face because he tried to kill himself and lived. You see that documentary on the Golden Gate one? Knew him for years. I know. and they just think And there's a lot of people Yeah, they seem kind of real. They're going to whack you. Yeah. Yeah, they do it a lot. That's not possible. Power is the same everywhere, guy.

3:03:23 That evil laugh, yeah. To emote like that at the news of his death shows that you're kind of like him. We've made a lot of deals with the devil, you know? Like, before, this would be in a fucking newspaper somewhere, You know, like, you, like, tally up all the people And look, obviously a lot of it's proven wrong, What happened? a big event, people take advantage of it.

3:05:42 They capitalize on problems. Yeah. right he's former military guy and um he was in iraq and he said um just talking about the Well, if you wanna keep that money coming in. Yeah. Probably not. How could you in the trigger? What happened? How many times did you hit people? Like is there a counting? I don't think there's a – Probably not. where we get large groups of people together on the ground

3:08:05 like this automatic like there's a weird thing that happens when there's like a group mind if Yeah. when you saw people lighting buildings on fire Yeah, I think it triggers some old timey shit in this chaotic group. You feel like you could crush a building with your hands. of invigorates you. You get excited for sure, but the goal is always to perform the best you can,

3:10:47 I feel jacked up. It's like we were talking about with the sex cults. Yeah. You do a good job of that because you've risen to a point where you have a large group, and your breaking point. You're constantly You're pushing yourself past this very difficult moment. I really do. special. You're almost froze to death. That makes a lot of sense. I get that.

3:14:40 Something where you know that you have limitations. you too has there ever been anyone in the world in the history of the world and this is gonna be that's not even that educated. probably in the history of the world. I never thought of it that way. I've just done it a long time. Types of people you've talked to oh, yeah for sure any huge insights. Yeah. Yeah, because there's like core aspects of people that are fascinating

3:17:47 based. The ideologically based people often fall apart under questioning. And that's fascinating have more capacity for information. They can disseminate information better. They're better Right? and look what she did and look what you said look and those those situations are fat like this And then now facing fucking 20 years in jail. Maybe she is one, maybe she's not.

3:20:03 It'll all be fine. Like, in some businesses to be a sociopath? That's freedom right there. I always love talking to you. my brother. Yeah, my brother. Yeah, What are you doing in Detroit? It's a wild town Detroit looked like in the 1950s when it was the one of the wealthiest cities in There's a tree growing to the middle of it. Detroit, the fabulous 50s.

3:22:33 The streets are packed. It was thriving and the walls come tumbling down look at that look at it look back then fuck man so many