Oliver Stone

Date: 2023-05-30 | Duration: 1h 52m

Episode Overview

Oliver Stone dives deep into the complex and often misunderstood world of nuclear energy, challenging common fears rooted in historic disasters like Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima. He traces the origins of nuclear science back to Marie Curie and emphasizes the distinction between nuclear power and nuclear weapons, highlighting how the former is a highly controlled and efficient energy source. Stone discusses the global landscape of nuclear development, noting China’s aggressive government-backed expansion and contrasting it with the more hesitant approach in the U.S. He also explores the environmental benefits of nuclear power, arguing it’s a crucial tool for reducing reliance on coal and fossil fuels amid climate change concerns. The conversation also touches on the cultural and political resistance to nuclear energy, fueled by misinformation and fear, despite decades of evidence supporting its safety and potential. Stone shares insights from his documentary work, including footage of radiation testing in Japan and innovative technologies like breeder reactors and the conversion of nuclear waste into batteries. Beyond energy, the discussion briefly ventures into broader scientific curiosities, from radiation’s effects on health to the mysteries of the universe, reflecting Stone’s wide-ranging curiosity and commitment to educating the public on nuanced scientific topics.

About Oliver Stone

Oliver Stone is an acclaimed director, producer, screenwriter, and author renowned for his provocative storytelling and bold cinematic style. With multiple Academy Awards to his name, including Best Director for "Platoon" and "Born on the Fourth of July," Stone has captivated audiences with his unflinching exploration of political and social issues. His latest work, the documentary "Nuclear Now," set to release on June 6, delves into the complexities of nuclear energy and its implications for the future. Known for films like "JFK," "Natural Born Killers," and "Wall Street," Stone's fearless approach to filmmaking has sparked conversations and challenged norms, making him a significant figure in contemporary cinema. Tune into his insightful conversation on the Joe Rogan Experience episode #1992 to explore his thoughts on creativity, politics, and the state of the world today.

Key Moments

– Nuclear Power
– Nuclear Accidents
– Radiation Effects
– Energy Policy
– Renewable Energy
– Nuclear Technology
– Environmental Impact
– Fukushima Disaster
– Chernobyl Disaster
– Nuclear Waste Management
– Fusion Energy
– Climate Change
– Agricultural Fertilizers
– Public Perception
– Scientific Research
– Alien Life Theories
– Primatology
– Sports Commentary
– Mental Health
– Film Making
0:00:41 – Discussion on dangers of nuclear power
0:01:18 – Three Mile Island nuclear incident overview
0:02:03 – Historical context starting with Marie Curie
0:05:15 – Fukushima generators flooded underwater
0:06:29 – Radiation testing on Japanese citizens
0:08:30 – China’s government-backed nuclear development
0:10:34 – Need to transition off coal energy
0:12:33 – Gas as a modern energy source debate
0:15:47 – Chernobyl’s radiation spread and death toll
0:17:31 – Profit motives versus nuclear benefits
0:20:13 – Impact of nuclear power on agriculture
0:24:45 – Historical accuracy of airplane safety compared
0:27:56 – Challenges of expanding nuclear power
0:29:00 – Older generation’s nuclear bomb confusion
0:31:31 – Consistent reactor building in Japan and Korea
0:35:44 – Critique of wind turbines and solar farms
0:38:42 – Concerns about environmental toxins lowering IQ
0:40:01 – Replacing pollution with nuclear energy
0:46:13 – Challenges in making the nuclear documentary
0:51:16 – Research on fusion plasma and breeder reactors
0:55:08 – Potential of batteries from nuclear waste
0:57:54 – Use of tritium in watch dials
1:02:29 – Oliver Stone’s filmmaking background
1:06:50 – Discussion on hypernovas and cosmic destruction
1:11:23 – Chimpanzee war behavior studies
1:15:06 – Octopus camouflage and intelligence
1:18:20 – Karma and dietary choices
1:22:19 – Exercise and human health beliefs
1:25:05 – Skepticism about climate change data
1:30:07 – Civilization collapse and biological impact
1:32:34 – Radiation exposure comparisons to x-rays
1:37:24 – Controversial topics on Netflix
1:40:06 – Personal fear of nuclear disasters
1:42:54 – Joe Rogan’s favorite sport
1:47:18 – Importance of solitude and thought
1:48:30 – Closing remarks and gratitude

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Starting point is 00:00:41 about the dangers of nuclear power. And I love the analogy that you made in the film Starting point is 00:01:18 Three Mile Island and how crazy it was. There's all these stars and celebrities and they're doing concerts. We've got to stop nuclear Starting point is 00:01:40 We cover all that in the film Starting point is 00:02:03 and you've got to go back to the beginning and you've got to go back to Marie Curie Starting point is 00:02:24 And we, in a sense, we took it like Starting point is 00:03:05 energy was not nuclear bomb. In the contrary, a bomb is very difficult to build. And it takes Starting point is 00:03:41 It's incredible, the stuff that happens. Starting point is 00:04:16 And they continued on. Starting point is 00:04:51 Not one Japanese. Starting point is 00:05:15 And the generators were flooded beneath the water. Starting point is 00:05:42 And we mustn't dismiss them. Starting point is 00:05:57 Fukushima was, if you look at Starting point is 00:06:29 Well, we have shots in the film showing they're taking tests on all the Japanese citizens. Starting point is 00:07:08 There's radiation in this room. Starting point is 00:07:33 which is we just love to get terrified about headlines, Starting point is 00:08:08 I need to educate myself. Starting point is 00:08:30 they built it, and they built it with government backing, not like the U.S., where we kind of back it, but we don't really back it. So as a result, well, China's really cutting out now because they Starting point is 00:09:20 current yeah so they're the leader right now in it. Well, no. Starting point is 00:09:54 China has you got a system working out. Yeah, Jamie's the wizard look at him over there. He's the best Starting point is 00:10:15 This whole thing is exactly how you lay it out in the film. Starting point is 00:10:34 And they have to get off the coal. Starting point is 00:10:46 We showed a documentary Starting po...

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