Joe Rogan Experience #2052 — Shane Dorian Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience World traveler. Is it 100%? Always my fear when I see people skiing and snowboarding. with the way my knee healed up so i yeah it was a shitty experience of that whole process how long You were saying that was the turning point, like the Ways to Well, I got full repairs of my ACL and my MCL. It doesn't really. And he just kind of ran me through and he said, if it was my knee, I would use a patellar tendon.

4:13 where you used to have these ligaments and your body accepts it over time as a ligament. bad shape for a long time yeah i was with my left knee yeah my left knee was in agony for a long It was, whatever, I can't remember if it was Percocets or Vicodin. Jeff the Junkie. Yeah. it doesn't jive with me it just makes me again i hear opiates are amazing i hear people that

7:13 like a warm jar of honey. the cellular performance Institute in Mexico, and you just got hammered with them, right? Yeah. And so they gave me some pain medication, which I sort of needed right when I woke up. Yes. So they're able to live in my body for up to 12 months. And then after that, you work with a physical therapist and you have very specific physical therapy.

10:31 degeneration and some bulging discs in my lower back. And then I have some, Ugh. like my C5, C4 is that's, I don't know if that sounds correct, but, um, so yeah, they did my SI joint and then like my C5, C4. I don't know if that sounds correct. And so where there's been a lot of wearing down, a lot of times it'll regrow that. So I did my MRIs before my treatment, and then I'll go back six months

12:26 Is that? Yeah, that's a good question. So the, my, my understanding is, so in your body, So you want it to heal your body where you need it the most. Really? And just because I don't know why that is. swim they they encourage you to swim you can walk a lot and like unless obviously unless you have And then I'll be able to do like resistance training with bands and stuff

15:09 like trying to be fit, Other guys would be like, That what I lost in, like, you know, one month or six weeks or something, which is wild. Yeah. versus 30 or 25. This is cool. But I guess I forget exactly. I think it was Andrew Huberman was talking about it and he was saying that like, there's like muscle bellies within your muscle. And, and so if, I go, listen, man, if you want to do this.

18:23 You'll ruin your knees. And we'll work out for maybe 20 minutes and then stop. And I told them, I will do that with you for a couple weeks before I have you really straining hard. three months, you know? Well, and then that's the big hook with all these stupid diet programs, Yeah. that instead of these unbelievably brutal, intense workouts And then overall fitness was also getting great too

21:39 easy to over train too when you get really sometimes you get addicted to training like i You know, that's, that's the real goal or maybe as long as I possibly can. No. I could start getting back in the gym much faster So I got to be careful. The problem with that is they've got to replace it someday. And a lot of times they go from the front, I heard.

23:56 They open you up. You're fit, dude. Yeah, I'm almost entirely – all I eat is meat. For me, it just seems to work. make me crash and I would feel dull like my mind would feel dull and when I started back on the carnivore diet like one of the first things that I noticed like almost immediately was that I had Yeah. Yes. It's great stuff. That's crazy.

27:26 And there's such a big difference between I will be satisfied and I'll be done eating. I might not even eat the whole steak you'll stop when you're done Yeah, I do too. stuffing it. Like the pizza's up to my neck. Like, it's really hard to do that with meat. You have to have fat. Fat is important for your brain function. And so I'll use grass-fed beef tallow and I sear it on the outside in that beef tallow.

29:44 You need fat. Do you have any fries with that? Do you have a shake? Do you have soda? I always say, listen to jacked scientists. Seed oils, which essentially were initially invented to be industrial lubricants for machinery. are very good for you that's another thing those two in particular are definitely the best yes i You'd get shredded though, Simon.

32:47 Low energy. But I could feel the difference. I feel great with my body weight workouts, kettlebell workouts. It's just carbs and bread and all that stuff, I can't stop. I don't really like In-N-Out. I feel like I judge a burger joint on the fries. Whose fries do you like? Five Guys. Yeah. It's like a patty sandwich. I eat all kinds of cheese. No. Yeah.

35:39 From Ways to Well? She's like, that's a great brand. Yeah. Yeah, but most, there's a lot of people that are deficient in vitamin D. The best way to get it is from the sun. And they're outside in the ocean. Like what about surfing? And you tan. That doesn't even make sense. I don't know where it is. I get up in the morning, and the first thing I do is go into the cold plunge.

39:06 Circadian rhythm. Luckily. And I'm not super empathetic about it too. Well, Jocko only sleeps like four hours a night. Like you asked Andrew Huberman, and that's one of the things you could do to like help Huge. I think Arnold is one of those people too, Schwarzenegger. I know it's a big difference. To only sleep four hours a night and function well, it must not affect your hormones as much as most people.

41:27 but you might be able to pull it off and keep going. short sleep gene. After a decade of searching, UC San Francisco scientists who identified the According to Fu, many scientists once thought that certain sleep behaviors And natural short sleepers remained a mystery until 2009 when a study concluded, conducted it couldn't account for all of them. If he's not suffering, he probably doesn't feel right.

44:14 a decade my my uh my go-to um when I'm when I'm working out Joe is I'll like go on Spotify and Isn't it wild what inspiration could do? Like a rock crazy. Yeah. I said to people, I'll be Your, uh, most of the time I don't work out to music. Like, say if you're doing, like, Tabata sprints on the Airdyne bike, a good song comes on. It's a drug. the way your brain's thinking

46:17 This is like infinity. hunting in hawaii been it's been it's been good it's been good it's been good for me i've been um Yeah, I was. Yeah. What a crew. A lot of deer. And one of them was successful. Like I always tell people that I'm like, I'm like, I'll see a thousand deer in a day. Yeah. 10 yards. in Hawaii. How do you spell Miola? M-E-O-L-A. This guy is one of my favorite human beings,

49:34 Great fisherman, great bow hunter. Look at this. The amount of perfect shots you've made and completely missed is crazy. Yeah. And I'm not opposed to rifle hunting. and now got, you know, a two... But he was a fat boy. That's a big-ass pig. Hard to get close to, though, right? All you just do is just like squeeze it. Right. You know, there's, like, so many.

52:37 perfect but when it does happen and you hear that whack and then the elk runs off and in this case in california my elk died in It ran for 80 yards, like as much as it could before it just died. And it died instantly. straight if your rifle is zeroed and you know you look at the reticle and you get it you get those this the right way. And so I started out at like 110 yards and I crept in very slowly the final 60

55:16 Yeah. It was nice and slow. This is actually a video of it. That's me right up there. Yeah. motherfucker would be gone gone hard to imagine but the elk he had no idea what that was he didn't If you aim well, it's going to go right through that shit. And I shot that pig. Yeah. And I'd just be drinking electrolytes all day and just shooting. That's amazing.

57:58 Oh, Jesus. Yeah, because when you get nervous, it's all dependent upon how calm you can stay. So it makes sense to me why so many surfers get into bow hunting because it's another way that In high school. Listen, if you like baseball, good for you. It was a huge challenge. cooker situation is there's nothing like it and i never thought i'd find something like that

1:00:51 and he's like really that really helps them and we're all sitting there eating, like this is something that I got myself. hunting but it wasn't like they it was like like the meat part was a huge part of it. And now that she eats it every day, she just doesn't want to eat anything else, which is really it's so good for you it's the most nutrient-dense food in the world and axis deer has a amazing flavor yeah it's so interesting it's almost sweet

1:02:47 And then if you just let them go, their numbers get so big. They're much healthier that way. oh my god at the four seasons they have axis sliders yeah oh they're so fucking good yeah I have some of it turn into jerky. Yeah. There's no connection. It's so nutrient dense. And I'm like, just deer meat. If you're trying to get fit and you're working out and you're trying to eat really, really good nutritious food, if you're eating venison, man, crazy results.

1:05:27 That's not my type of hunting, but if you're just going for the meat. I go to one of the things that I also find is that you really need practice. those shots in, which I think are critical. There's so many bases you have to cover if you want to be a successful bow hunter. You can't mess that up. So like, you can't stop it. to myself so I'm never flinching and panicking and freaking out. I stay in my shot process. And

1:08:11 One of the things that he makes it. And these guys use it in order to have a process that you utilize while you're in the middle of a shot right to keep talking yourself cam haynes developed his own process on his own and didn't necessarily know that that's what he was doing he just knew what was best for Start thinking about that moment. through pull through the shot and then like you know and follow the arrow yeah follow through

1:10:31 younger and he goes he goes you know what i used to always tell myself when i was at full draw and instead of coming from a perspective of hope, And if you want to take this journey, you have to understand it's a discipline Isn't it crazy? Right at this moment. It really feels like that's what's happening. Every single possible thing that we can to avoid this. Every single possible thing

1:12:56 on October 7th, was it? Like, of course you want to get rid of Hamas. what happens? And we're also backing Ukraine against Russia. But I just watching the news and trying not to like listening to podcasts, watching watching documentaries trying to like educate myself and like figure out what this conflict how it came to be what the history was and it's the more i

1:15:04 For Hamas to do what they did in israel that they They wanted, like I listened to the Coleman Hughes podcast. This was even before the Hamas invasion. Because every movie where, I love you. How many of them have snuck in across the border and are forming terror cells? That's as many people that live in New York City. Yeah. Yeah, because Venezuela opposes socialism,

1:18:42 but it's like totally political, all these moves. Like, what? Voter ID is racist. Like, what? But that's, unfortunately, the level of discourse that we have today, especially with all the virtue signaling on social media and all the people clamoring to prove that they're the most progressive and the most open-minded and equitable and we're in we're all down for inclusivity and like

1:20:07 And if you also have a defunding of the police like the normal lifestyle in America is crazed, like a joke, how good it is. Like people got it Yeah. border yeah sweet it's crazy yeah and then i feel like nobody agrees that having a secure border is That's enough to finish the wall and secure the border. That's what they need. It's crazy. I feel like the problems are like slowly then suddenly with that type of thing where like you

1:23:08 Oh, man. This is the Roosevelt Hotel. Way fewer than in America, than in California. very way fewer homeless people in Tijuana, I had all these assumptions. Did you see this about fentanyl recently? I wonder why. Right. Have you heard of that? it's so toxic. They, they all inject it. It's so toxic that it, it, uh, it's so poisonous to your Go back to that article that you were just posting.

1:26:31 Yeah, I have a weird, I don't know if obsession's the right word, And they know they're going to die from it like really soon. I've had a few different friends die from fentanyl. It's like 100,000 people a year dying of overdoses. you know if if there was a method of testing and i know they use that a lot at raves because that And they're all like, yeah, of course.

1:29:17 Yeah, it really is a crisis. That's not like, And you have no idea what you're getting. It's widely, openly discussed. for illegal drugs United States and that's not going away well it's not Now it's turning into fentanyl. and she found a little baggie of white powder. That's my little tiny town that I feel is like a little town, like a little farm town that grows coffee.

1:33:07 Like, I was in, not Toronto, what's the other giant city on the West Coast? That's the tranq. you know who knows how many hundreds of thousands of window of time where no one knew what it was what oxycontin was no one knew yeah just had his name Yeah. Well, that documentary, that series, the Netflix series, Painkiller is absolutely up dying from heroin and it's just heroin was rare yeah and then a big choice yeah it was a

1:36:15 Jeez, dude. And they think they're just going to party and other people are partying. prescription thing and prescribe over prescribing like crazy and like buying it hook, line and sink or whatever those pharma pharma companies were telling them. that like the FDA forbade them from prescribing ivermectin during COVID, which is wild. Like, what did they do?

1:38:26 And the media was involved in it because of the amount of money that these pharmaceutical drug companies spend on media advertisement. Exactly. sustainability because the trust in mainstream media is at an all-time low. COVID ruined their if I had 43,000 people that watched my Instagram reel, I'd kill myself. It's good. But yeah, I feel like you're right.

1:40:32 They're the only ones who win in these wars, those media companies. isn't it funny that you are painted as like a right winger so there is and i don't think you're you are a right winger. I'm bald. Quite a few. What they have in common... when all the people... that you're biased They don't like other people having influence, like that i'm very left-wing i believe that there's people that are down on their luck and

1:44:13 Yeah, it's full authoritarian. yeah they got in so much trouble if they didn't it was insane and you're right that's the biggest But here's another thing they want to point to when it comes to school shootings. Now, is it because they were already sick, already crazy, And if you bring it up, you're a fucking loon. It's not them. It's the people that run the companies that are money people the money people

1:47:04 And in internal emails, they said it's going to cause all these problems. he's the author of a new book, Sickening, How Big Pharma Broke American Healthcare and How We to push this stuff on people and tell them hey you got arthritis we got a cure right i feel like a It's not binary. making different like when you get your your brain pretty good then you start making different life

1:49:59 I think I talked to you about this in the past but I I've been doing a bit of brain treatment. My mental clarity was was getting worse and worse. Basically, I put this thing on my head in the mornings. Is it magnetic? For 30 ago, my chart now. And he's like, what have you been doing? And I'm like, Oh, I've had some, I told him about the stem cell treatment, but it was right before that.

1:53:11 And my good friend, Dr. Mark Gordon, who's done a lot of work on traumatic brain injuries It's incredible. Dude, if we lived in the 50s, we'd be fucked. Where they would open you up like a fish and take a chunk of your hamstring and fucking drill it in place. like tripping on this for no reason shane like don't be a bitch it's just you know what i mean

1:55:37 Orr's knees were so bad because he had so many surgeries that he couldn't straighten his legs but he would play racquetball and he would like go for a ball and just fall Yeah, modern surgery. Yeah. It's very strong. problem with blood flow. And I don't know if that's the same with everyone. I mean, I don't Yeah, the diet, regular sauna use, cold punches.

1:58:27 All I'm thinking of is just fucking 30 seconds left. But at the end of the day, I have a very functional body at 56. And the coolest thing about it is like, like if you talk to like, um, Andrew Huberman, the stuff, I didn't know that. And my testosterone is go to sleep. Super simple. It's like a little clicker. Click, click, click. And then I also supplement vitamin D, which is a hormone, and I supplement DHEA,

2:01:38 Yeah, it's great. And every single high-level athlete There's plenty of studies. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Thank God there's people like him out there. Thank God. Amazing that we have that He's just like a fricking neuroscientist, scientist, health professional. it's so important yeah from Colorado in Utah we went Axis deer hunting out here. Yeah, he's great. He's an awesome guy.

2:04:13 I mean, I'm the wrong person to talk about this. all that shit, all that shit is terrible for you. And, you know, and that's the problem with these You know, does it come in a Burger King Whopper or is it from grass fed steak and broccoli? There's a lot of people that eat the way I eat now. You do so much. Exactly. care of yourself you can it's Like cut through all the – like there's so many people that are still poisoned by the studies that the sugar industry funded in like whatever it was, the 1950s or 1960s, where they bribed scientists to say that coronary artery disease is caused by saturated fat,

2:08:12 Yeah. And he was talking about health and longevity. And he said, It's getting them craving this bullshit that's not even food. Yeah. and I'll be like, and I'll blend that up sugar it's so easy very easily so easily yeah that's my biggest that's my biggest vice yeah But then there's also like the difference between the pasta that we get over here and the pasta in Europe.

2:11:10 So many people that want to downplay the fact that— like a documentary about there's this massive Microplastics, which is- the taint is 50 to 100% larger than females, but they're shrinking. And then also miscarriages in It is. there's a video that shows the difference between his farm and the neighboring farm of us consuming it all this is the river that runs near his property so this is his neighbor's

2:14:52 But as an individual, you can make healthier choices. If I need to run out the door and I'm looking for something healthy that I have to eat, like if I'm in my car, they have these carnivore snacks. Like when I'm at the UFC and I have to sit there for six hours, that's what I eat. find them either. It's so much more widely available than it was even just a few years

2:16:34 you're eating, everything, how you're living. You want to, you want to see that picture. You look great. I don't do the pretty beat up. And some of them are considering surgery and everybody's got, you know, aches and pains and injuries. So I'm trying to share it for them. And then I just That's awesome, I have a friend named Mike Escamilla. And he's like, I'm not joking, dude.

2:19:29 the ivs all all the time they go once a month for stem cell ivs and then the fighters all the the The cool thing is they have a cartilage-specific stem cell now. It starts with an M. I use the iron neck and all those different things. This was fun, man. Thanks.