Gavin de Becker

Date: 2025-11-13 | Duration: 2h 34m

Category: Health & Medicine, Politics & Media

Episode Overview

Security expert and author Gavin de Becker joins Joe for an episode focused almost entirely on pharmaceutical industry accountability, vaccine science, and the institutional failures of the COVID era. De Becker walks through what he describes as the decades-long pattern of pharmaceutical companies suppressing independent research, beginning with the HIV/AIDS dissenter Peter Duesberg in the documentary House of Numbers. He argues that no adequate long-term safety studies exist for the childhood vaccine schedule, that RFK forced regulators to admit this, and that the emergency use authorization for COVID vaccines required suppressing already-approved treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Johnson & Johnson's $4 billion baby powder settlement and Pfizer's history of fines serve as case studies in corporate impunity. The conversation touches on the Kissinger report and Bill Gates's publicly stated concerns about population reaching 8 billion, the Zelensky-played-president-on-TV-first detail, and the broader frustration that no individuals ever face personal consequences for institutional harms. De Becker closes by noting that the Trump administration is accomplishing things the corporate media simply isn't covering.

About Gavin de Becker

Gavin de Becker is a renowned security expert and the founder of Gavin de Becker & Associates, a leading firm specializing in threat assessment and personal security. With decades of experience, he has advised high-profile clients, including celebrities and politicians, on how to navigate and mitigate risks in their lives. De Becker is also the author of the bestselling book "The Gift of Fear," which explores the importance of intuition in recognizing danger. Known for his insightful perspectives on human behavior and safety, he has become a sought-after speaker and consultant, making significant contributions to the fields of security and personal safety. His unique blend of expertise and real-world experience makes him a captivating figure in the realm of security.

Key Moments

– Peter Duesberg and House of Numbers — HIV/AIDS scientific dissent
– No long-term safety studies for the childhood vaccine schedule — RFK's confrontation
– Emergency Use Authorization requiring suppression of approved treatments
– Johnson & Johnson baby powder settlement and Pfizer's history of fines
– Kissinger report and Bill Gates on population reaching 8 billion
– Zelensky's TV show about a teacher who accidentally becomes president
– No individual accountability for institutional pharmaceutical harms
– Trump administration accomplishments the corporate media ignores
0:10:59 – Concerts as unifying events — nobody at a show cares who the person next to them voted for
0:25:10 – Population reduction agenda — Duesberg and House of Numbers; peers wouldn't debate him
0:48:43 – No parent would let a stranger inject a baby with something unknown — yet most do
1:01:09 – 22 years without a measles death in the US — the number that complicates the vaccine story
1:12:10 – RFK forced regulators to admit no safety studies existed — they'd never been done
1:23:20 – EUA strategy — ivermectin had to be suppressed because approved drugs block emergency authorization
1:32:30 – Pfizer and J&J fines — $4 billion baby powder settlement; corporations pay, no individuals do
1:42:32 – Bill Gates and the 8 billion population figure; the Kissinger report
2:05:01 – Zelensky played a teacher who becomes president on TV — then became president in real life
2:25:45 – Trump administration accomplishments the corporate media doesn't report on

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. All right, sir. I will. Thank you very much. Great to see you, as always. Good to see you, too. Starting point is 00:00:16 You've got a bunch of notes. You got a lot of things to talk about. Yes. We were starting to talk outside. We're like, hold this. Hold these thoughts. Let's bring them in here. Well, here's where I am. Starting point is 00:00:25 As a criminologist, you know, I take a different approach to things. I'm not obviously a doctor or a scientist, thankfully. And as a criminologist, you get a view of the world that's quite interesting, and so I took a deep dive into pharma. But I want to put that off for a second because I know you know a lot of these CIA operations like a paperclip where we bring over people who are working on bio-weapons from Japan and from Germany and we don't prosecute them and we use them to be the beginning of the U.S. by a weapons program, and I know you know M.K. Ultra and Mockingbird, but do you know the one called Project Gladiol? No, I do not. Put your seatbelt on because this one just tops it all. So this was World War II ends, and the OSS, which was the CIA at the time, decides to leave behind, rather than take everybody home, all the American soldiers, they're going to leave behind Starting point is 00:01:19 a bunch of them. Hey, you guys, hide your weapons, hide your rifles, secrete all the, the grenades and ammunition and put it in bunkers and just sit tight until we have some ideas of things you ought to do. So eventually a few hundred of them stay behind and they are going to do things in Europe to stop communism, to stop socialism, to fight the Soviets, et cetera. But what do they actually end up doing is terroristic incidents against our allies. They blow up a train station in Bologna, 285 people injured, 85 people killed, done and funded, and operated by our CIA. Starting point is...

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