Cheryl Hines

Date: 2026-02-10 | Duration: 3h 4m

Episode Overview

Cheryl Hines, best known for playing Larry David's wife on Curb Your Enthusiasm, joins Joe Rogan for a candid three-hour conversation about life before and after her marriage to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the political campaign, pandemic-era radicalization, and the rabbit holes of American political corruption. Joe opens by saying he immediately thought of Cheryl the moment Bobby announced his presidential run, noting that she — like most human beings — is "not built for this," while marveling that Trump somehow is. Cheryl shares her journey from being a firmly left-leaning pandemic-era believer in institutional science to growing increasingly skeptical as inconsistencies mounted, tracing how political ideology becomes cult-like when rejection from the tribe is weaponized to enforce conformity. The conversation covers the Sackler family opioid deal and their sweetheart immunity settlement, Jeffrey Epstein's 2005 Palm Beach case and how different the world's trajectory might have been if those initial victims hadn't come forward, and Nancy Pelosi and Schumer's Kente cloth kneeling moment at the Capitol — with Cheryl noting the cloth was from a tribe historically involved in the slave trade. They watch videos together throughout: a crocodile biting a man's head, the fake sign language interpreter at Nelson Mandela's memorial, and various political moments. Cheryl discusses writing and recording the audiobook for her memoir "Unscripted," which covers Curb Your Enthusiasm, the political years with Bobby, and what that entire journey was like.

About Cheryl Hines

Cheryl Hines is an Emmy Award-nominated actress, director, producer, and comedian, celebrated for her iconic role as Cheryl David on HBO's hit series "Curb Your Enthusiasm." With a career spanning over two decades, she has showcased her comedic talent in various films and television shows, earning acclaim for her sharp wit and relatable performances. In addition to her work in front of the camera, Hines has made her mark behind the scenes as a director and producer, further highlighting her versatility in the entertainment industry. Known for her infectious humor and engaging personality, she continues to captivate audiences while advocating for causes close to her heart.

Key Moments

– Life During and After RFK Jr.'s Presidential Campaign
– Political Cults and Tribal Rejection Psychology
– Pandemic-Era Left-to-Skeptic Journey
– Sackler Family and Opioid Immunity Deal
– Jeffrey Epstein's 2005 Palm Beach Case
– Pelosi and Schumer Kente Cloth Moment
– Fake Sign Language Interpreter at Mandela Memorial
– Curb Your Enthusiasm and Larry David
– Cheryl's Memoir: Unscripted
0:00:17 – Joe: Thought of Cheryl the Moment Bobby Announced — She's Not Built for This
0:00:25 – Trump Is the Only Person Who Survives Political Attack Exactly the Same
0:00:55 – Tribal Rejection as a Tool for Enforcing Groupthink and Ideology
0:01:22 – Both Parties Have a 10% Cult Fringe That Keeps Everyone Fired Up
0:09:51 – Pre-Pandemic: Firmly Left, Trusted Academics and Institutions Completely
0:44:48 – Crocodile Bites Man's Head — He's Missing a Giant Chunk
1:04:57 – Joe Follows an Instagram Page of Mantises Eating Various Bugs
1:24:52 – Fake Sign Language at Mandela Memorial: The Guy Was Just a Kook
1:49:55 – Sackler Family Opioid Deal: Sweetheart Settlement With Immunity Baked In
2:09:45 – Pelosi and Schumer's Kente Cloth: From a Tribe That Ran the Slave Trade
2:29:47 – Epstein 2005: The Palm Beach Girls Who Started It All — Imagine If They Hadn't
3:03:57 – Rabbit Holes Go So Deep — Easy to Lose Your Mind or Just Make Up New Stories
3:04:17 – Unscripted Audiobook: Covers Curb, Bobby, Politics — 'A Wild Ride'

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Cheryl. Joe. So good to see you. It's really good to see you. What's happening? Starting point is 00:00:17 Everything. Are you good? You're right? Yeah, I am. I'm good now. Yeah. Woo. It's been a few years. Starting point is 00:00:25 I thought about you the moment Bobby said he was going to run for president. You were the first thing I thought of him. Thank you. Because I'm a huge fan of Kirby, your enthusiasm. I thought you were amazing on that show. Thank you. It's such a good show. Thank you. It's maybe one of the greatest comedy shows of all time. And I was like, she's not built for this. Turns out I'm not built for this. Nobody is. Trump is the only person I've ever met that somehow another survives it and seems exactly the same. But most people who are Starting point is 00:00:55 attacked like that, it is a natural human instinct when you are rejected by your tribe to feel terrified and filled with anxiety, but that's why people do it. And that's what encourages group think because you're terrified and you wind up agreeing to things that are fucking insane. Yeah. Because you don't even know what you're agreeing to. You just don't want to be rejected by your tribe. And this is how they keep people involved in these where ideologies eventually become cults. Starting point is 00:01:22 Yes. And I think you can make a really good argument at both the right and the left that in a certain certain section of each one of these political parties, it's a cult. Yes, because they're, you know, most of us are sort of in the center. Yes. And then you have the 10% on this side, the 10% on this side that are so extreme and loud. And they keep everybody fired up. And it is cult like. Starting point is 00:01:51 Right. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird to watch intelligent people get captured in it. I was just watching this video with Bill Maher and B...

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