Roger Avary

Date: 2026-02-11 | Duration: 3h 5m

Category: Arts & Entertainment, Paranormal & Conspiracy

Episode Overview

Roger Avary, the Academy Award-winning co-writer of Pulp Fiction and director of films including The Rules of Attraction, joins Joe Rogan for a marathon three-hour conversation covering Hollywood, filmmaking history, conspiracy theories, astrophysics, and everything in between. The episode opens with legendary celebrity blooper recordings — Orson Welles losing his temper during Gallo wine commercials, William Shatner's pronunciation demands — before diving into Orson Welles's own tragic story of being blacklisted by the Hearst media empire after Citizen Kane. Roger and Joe geek out on the craft of filmmaking: the death of the opening monologue, Netflix's story-beat white paper that has homogenized streaming content, Guillermo del Toro's Pacific Rim, Ridley Scott's Gladiator 2 and The Last Duel, and how Daily Wire's production quality rivals classic television despite its political branding. The conversation pivots into deeper territory: The Counselor (Cormac McCarthy's script) as a metaphor for cartel-bank-media symbiosis, the Clinton-Obama political cabal, the International Space Station footage conspiracy, whether we live in a simulation, and a lengthy excursion into plasma cosmology and why mainstream astrophysics may be built on a false premise about stellar temperatures. The episode closes with Roger debunking a flat earth Reddit thread about an ISS video, concluding — with Joe — that they can at least be comforted by one thing stable and secure in their understanding of reality.

About Roger Avary

Roger Avary is a celebrated director, producer, and Academy Award-winning screenwriter, best known for his iconic collaboration with Quentin Tarantino on the groundbreaking film "Pulp Fiction," which earned him an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay. With a distinctive voice in the world of cinema, Avary has also directed notable films like "The Rules of Attraction" and "Beowulf," showcasing his versatility and unique storytelling style. His ability to intertwine dark humor with intricate narratives makes him a fascinating figure in the film industry, drawing audiences into his provocative and often boundary-pushing work. Avary’s insights into screenwriting and filmmaking offer a captivating perspective, making him a compelling guest on the Joe Rogan Experience.

Key Moments

– Hollywood Bloopers: Orson Welles and Shatner
– Citizen Kane and Hearst Blacklisting Orson Welles
– Netflix Story-Beat White Paper: Homogenizing Film
– Ridley Scott's Gladiator 2 and The Last Duel
– The Counselor: Cartels, Banks, and Media as One
– ISS Footage and Simulation Theory
– Plasma Cosmology: Is Mainstream Astrophysics Wrong?
– Guillermo del Toro's Pacific Rim
– Daily Wire Production Quality
0:00:17 – Classic Behind-the-Scenes Bloopers: Orson Welles and William Shatner
0:01:11 – Orson Welles Forgets His Own Name Mid-Sentence
0:02:01 – Citizen Kane: Hearst Shut Down One of the Most Talented Men Alive
0:09:56 – Netflix White Paper: Every Film Has to Hit Predetermined Story Beats
0:25:00 – Pacific Rim and del Toro's Frankenstein: The Miller's House Scene
0:44:55 – Daily Wire: If You Can Get Past the Branding, It's Classic Television Quality
1:04:47 – Ridley Scott's The Last Duel: The Best Fight Scene of the Century
1:29:48 – The Counselor: Cartels = Banks = Law Enforcement = Media — There's No Fighting It
1:54:55 – Plasma Cosmology: Mainstream Astrophysics Based on False Kelvin Premise
2:19:41 – Flat Earth and the Curvature Debate: You'd Never Be High Enough to See It
3:04:54 – ISS Footage Reddit Debunked: Stars Visible When They Shouldn't Be
3:05:10 – Closing: 'At Least One Thing Is Stable in Our Understanding of Reality'

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Roger? Yeah, fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. Go for it. Starting point is 00:00:17 Fuck it. We'll do it live. Do it live. That's a classic. Oh, yeah. That's a classic look behind the scenes. Do it live. Fucking crazy people telling you the news. Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah. That's good. And the William Shatner one where, you know, The studio guy, you know, he says, Shatner is doing some ADR for the cartoon, the Star Trek cartoon. And he says, you know, he uses the word sabotage. And he gets corrected by the studio guy. He's like, Bill, it's pronounced sabotage. Please don't correct me. Starting point is 00:00:57 It disgusts me. It sickens me. And you say sabotage. I say sabotage. I absolutely love William Shatner My favorite ones are the Orwell Starting point is 00:01:11 excuse me Fuck, why can't remember his name Rosebud Orson Wells Jesus Christ Orson Wells What happened? Starting point is 00:01:19 You started saying it I know What happened? My brain just said nope No access When Orson Wells was doing the Gallo wine commercials Starting point is 00:01:26 Remember those days? Yeah, yeah Orson Wells Which is Before it's time I know And he was like Everything was like an exhaustive sucking of air to come in to speak. Starting point is 00:01:37 But then he was making fun of how shitty the wine was in between takes. Like he was angry. Yeah. There is a CD that you can get. I can't remember what it's called, but I have them at home. And it's like all these radio things like that were just when celebrities, you know, lose it on while doing voiceover and ADR. It's hilarious. Orson Rells is a crazy story, right? Starting point is 00:02:01 because when he made that movie, when he made Citizen Kane, which was about William Randolph Hearst, William Randolph Hurst essentially shut down one of the most talented guys alive at the time, shut down...

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