Robert Malone, MD

Guest: MD

Date: 2026-02-13 | Duration: 2h 33m

Category: Politics & Media, Health & Medicine

Episode Overview

Dr. Robert Malone, the mRNA technology pioneer with roughly 15 patents in the field, returns to The Joe Rogan Experience nearly five years after his original appearance — which triggered a wave of censorship, cancellations, and attempts to brand him a quack. Joe opens by calling the reunion a "victory dance," acknowledging that Malone's early COVID-era warnings have largely been vindicated by subsequent evidence. Malone explains the biochemistry of the original Moderna mRNA vaccine he helped develop, including the polyethylene glycol (PEG) liposome delivery mechanism and why its behavior inside the body surprised even him when he experienced a series of adverse events after vaccination. He outlines the psychological phenomenon of "mass formation" — the process by which populations enter a hypnotic collective state during times of anxiety, described by Belgian psychologist Matthias Desmet — and how this concept became central to understanding the COVID response. The conversation covers hydroxychloroquine's early suppression (Peter Navarro's role in sourcing it domestically before a coordinated Lancet study discredited it), GB News and the media windows that briefly allowed dissenting voices, why young males in particular found Malone to be a rare representative voice in mainstream discourse, and how frontline physicians were experiencing things the public never heard about through normal media channels. Malone reflects that the community of physicians he was embedded in — attending weekly crisis meetings — gave him the knowledge he shared through Joe's platform, and thanks Joe for giving them a voice.

About MD

Dr. Robert W. Malone, MD, MS, is a distinguished virologist and immunologist renowned for his pioneering work in mRNA technology, including the development of mRNA delivery and vaccination methods. As an original inventor of DNA vaccination and various non-viral delivery platforms, he has significantly influenced the fields of immunology and public health. Dr. Malone currently serves on the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and co-authored the provocative book "PsyWar: Enforcing the New World Order" with his wife, Dr. Jill Glasspool Malone. Together, they founded the Malone Institute, which addresses critical issues at the intersection of government, biology, and medicine. His insights and expertise have made him a compelling voice in contemporary discussions about vaccine technology and public health policies.

About Robert Malone

Dr. Robert W. Malone is a distinguished virologist and immunologist renowned for his pioneering work in mRNA technology and vaccination, playing a crucial role in the development of mRNA delivery systems. A member of the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, he brings a wealth of expertise to the forefront of public health discourse. Co-author of "PsyWar: Enforcing the New World Order," alongside his wife, Dr. Jill Glasspool Malone, he delves into the intersections of government, biological sciences, and medicine through the Malone Institute, which they founded to address these critical issues. Dr. Malone's contributions to science and his outspoken views during the COVID-19 pandemic have ignited significant conversations, making him a compelling figure in contemporary discussions on health and policy.

Key Moments

– mRNA Vaccine Technology: PEG Liposome Delivery
– Malone's COVID Vaccine Adverse Events
– Mass Formation Psychology (Matthias Desmet)
– Hydroxychloroquine Suppression and Peter Navarro
– Lancet's Role in Discrediting Early Treatments
– Media Censorship and GB News
– Young Males Without Mainstream Representation
– Frontline Physician Network During COVID
– COVID Censorship Victory Lap: Warnings Vindicated
0:00:24 – Victory Dance: Malone's Warnings Turned Out to Be Correct
0:00:47 – They Called Him a Quack — It Only Worked on People Not Paying Attention
0:01:09 – ~15 mRNA Patents Including Core Vaccine Delivery Technology
0:01:33 – Malone Took the Moderna Vaccine and Had a Series of Adverse Events
0:09:57 – PEG Liposome: How the Delivery Mechanism Works and Why It Surprised Him
0:24:30 – Mass Formation: Matthias Desmet's Realization — 'I'm Living What I Teach'
0:44:58 – GB News: The Only Broadcaster That Would Have Him On During the Window
1:04:42 – Hydroxychloroquine: Peter Navarro Sourced It, Then Lancet Killed It
1:24:46 – Young Males Fist-Bumping Malone: He Was Their Only Representative Voice
2:32:25 – More People Open to This Information Now Than Ever — Joe Helped That
2:32:42 – Malone Thanks Joe: 'You Gave the Physician Community a Voice Through Me'

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Yep, bro. We were trying to figure out how long it's been since you came in. It's been somewhere in the neighborhood close to five years. Yeah. A lot of water into the ridge. Starting point is 00:00:24 Your appearance on this show, boy, did that create a lot of problems. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't expect you ever had it me on again. And I thought maybe Spotify was just going to say, hell no. No, you were right. Like, this is a victory dance. Like, it turned out that all your warnings and all the things that you were saying about the problems turned out to be true. Well, thanks. Starting point is 00:00:47 And I know you've said that on a few shows. Every time you do, somebody sends me a clip and sees, hey, Rogan said you did the right thing. What was it like for you? First of all, you know, they were trying to label you a quack and a kook. Try. I didn't know what they're talking about. I don't think it worked with everybody. I mean, it worked with people that weren't paying attention. Starting point is 00:01:09 But anybody that really paid attention to your background said, no, this guy's very credible. I mean, don't you have like nine patents on MRNA vaccine technology? Yeah, on the MRNA, yeah, in a total of about 15, I think. Yeah. And you also took the vaccine and had a horrible adverse event. A series of them, yeah. Yeah. At the time, it was so early. Starting point is 00:01:33 That was when the National Guard was still doing it, and that was Moderna. And I was embarrassed to have these experiences, and I was embarrassed when I got COVID in early 2020. You know, looking back, there was so much fear, so much anger and so much anger and anxiety. anxiety and everything wrapped around all of this. And in retrospect, it was, you know, was promoted, but it was also very organic. You know, it was, you know, looking back, being honest about ...

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