Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Date: 2026-04-01 | Duration: 2h 14m

Category: Health & Medicine, Politics & Media

Episode Overview

Rick Perry and W. Bryan Hubbard join Joe Rogan to discuss innovative approaches to addressing veterans’ mental health and the opioid crisis, focusing heavily on the therapeutic potential of Ibogaine. They explore how this psychoactive substance, despite its legal challenges, has shown remarkable promise in treating addiction and PTSD, particularly among veterans who have struggled with conventional treatments. Perry and Hubbard share compelling stories of veterans whose lives were transformed after undergoing Ibogaine therapy, highlighting the drug’s unique ability to reset brain chemistry and alleviate deep-rooted trauma. The conversation also delves into the systemic failures of government institutions like the VA in adequately supporting returning service members. Perry recounts his efforts to advocate for veterans, including legislative initiatives in Texas aimed at enabling clinical trials and expanding access to Ibogaine treatment. Hubbard provides insight into the scientific research underpinning these efforts, referencing collaborations with international experts and the promising outcomes seen in retrospective studies. Together, they emphasize the urgent need for compassionate, evidence-based solutions to the opioid epidemic and mental health crisis, underscoring the potential for Ibogaine to offer a life-changing alternative for those at the end of their rope.

About Rick Perry

Rick Perry is a prominent American politician who served as the 47th governor of Texas from 2000 to 2015, making him the longest-serving governor in the state's history. A member of the Republican Party, he later held the position of the 14th Secretary of Energy under President Donald Trump, where he played a key role in shaping the nation’s energy policies. Known for his charismatic personality and impactful leadership, Perry has been a vocal advocate for energy independence and economic growth. His tenure saw significant advancements in Texas’ economy, and he remains a compelling figure in political discourse. In his recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Perry shared insights into his experiences and views, captivating listeners with his unique perspectives on governance and national issues.

About W. Bryan Hubbard

W. Bryan Hubbard is a prominent advocate in the fight against the opioid crisis, serving as the inaugural Chairman of the Kentucky Opioid Commission. With a deep commitment to innovative solutions, he currently leads the REID Foundation’s American Ibogaine Initiative, exploring alternative therapies for addiction recovery. Known for his insightful contributions to public health discussions, Hubbard has gained recognition for his work in integrating science and compassion to address the complex challenges posed by substance use disorders. His recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience (episode #2251) highlights his dedication to transforming the landscape of addiction treatment, making him a compelling figure in contemporary health advocacy.

Key Moments

– Ibogaine Therapy
– Veterans' Mental Health
– Opioid Epidemic
– Addiction Treatment
– Deep Brain Stimulation
– Clinical Trials
– Legislative Initiatives
– Psychedelic Research
– Veteran Advocacy
– Mental Health Policy
– Opioid Use Disorder
– Medical Cannabis
– Texas Medical Center
– Medicaid Data Analysis
– Pharmacology
– Public-Private Partnerships
– Psychological Evaluation
– Addiction Neuroscience
– Veteran Suicide Prevention
– Healthcare System Reform
0:00:36 – Introduction to Kentucky Ibogaine Initiative
0:05:01 – Discussion on Operation Red Wing and Veteran Connections
0:07:35 – Concerns About VA Mental Health Treatment
0:08:31 – Government Failure in Supporting Veterans
0:11:54 – Medical Use of THC for Veteran Relief
0:13:35 – Personal Journey Through Addiction Treatment
0:15:06 – Health and Wellness Mission for Veterans
0:18:16 – Introduction of Ibogaine into Public Awareness
0:21:46 – Veteran's Background and Military Aspirations
0:23:43 – Potential of Ibogaine When Properly Administered
0:26:31 – Veteran's Last Resort Treatment in Mexico
0:30:19 – Research on Brain Regeneration and PTSD
0:32:20 – Miraculous Outcomes from Experimental Treatments
0:34:07 – Criminalization of Ibogaine and Its Consequences
0:38:18 – Efficacy Data on Ibogaine Treatment Outcomes
0:41:02 – Impact of Veteran Stories on Policy Advocacy
0:46:15 – Texas Legislative Initiative for Clinical Trials
0:48:48 – Neurochemical Basis of Addiction Recovery
0:53:19 – Challenges and Risks in Ibogaine Treatment
0:56:48 – Socioeconomic Impact of Untreated Mental Illness
1:00:42 – Legal and Judicial Challenges in Workers' Compensation
1:08:10 – Retrospective Study on Medicaid and Opioid Use
1:14:54 – Role of Medical Providers in Opioid Epidemic
1:18:49 – Overview of Psychedelic Research Landscape
1:20:04 – Personal Testimony of Addiction and Recovery
1:23:13 – Veteran Activism Around Ibogaine Treatment
1:25:07 – Public-Private Funding for Addiction Solutions
1:29:14 – Ibogaine's Application for TBI and PTSD in Veterans
1:34:02 – Opportunities for Progress in Addiction Treatment
1:38:03 – Leadership Support for Opioid Use Disorder Solutions
1:42:29 – Texas Medical Center's Role in Healthcare Innovation
1:46:25 – Humanitarian Focus on Veteran Care
1:51:56 – Saving Lives with Single Ibogaine Treatment
1:54:35 – Ibogaine's Therapeutic Potential Discussed
2:00:06 – Introduction of Key Texas Advocate Ann Claire Stapleton
2:03:57 – Existential Struggle and National Healthcare Challenges
2:06:24 – Closing Remarks and Call for Hope

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:01 Joe Rogan podcast, checking out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Gentlemen, great to see. Yeah, put them on, slap him on. What's happening? Good to see you, gentlemen again. Taking off. Starting point is 00:00:20 One more time. Yeah, one more time. Yeah. So what is the latest? Give me the latest. Where are we at? What did you take it, Brian? You just kind of... Starting point is 00:00:32 You are the... you're the most current on where we are, what's going on. Man, there has been a lot of stuff happened in the 15 months since we were here. I mean, like, stunning amount of stuff. So let's not waste any time. Tell them where we're at. All right. Well, the last time we came to visit with you, I believe, was on December the 27th of 2024. Starting point is 00:00:54 We were just on the front end of having organized 30 committed Texans whose own families had had experiences related to trauma, addiction, alcoholism, and the wounds of war, who, after hearing a plan that was developed for the state of Kentucky to bring Ibegain to the American people as an FDA-approved medication and breakthrough treatment for addiction and trauma committed themselves to using their time, their talent, and their network to achieve what had never been done before. And that was to convince an individual state to undertake drug development to create a therapeutic medical breakthrough for public health crises within its borders that are representative of the national reality. After you released the interview with us on January 2nd, 2025, we pursued a five Starting point is 00:01:46 and a half month blistering campaign to convince 188 blank slate Texas legislators to fund the single largest psychedelic research and medical development project in New York. history, that being the $50 million Texas Ivagate initiative. We had the assistance of some in-state allies, one of which was Texans for greater mental health led by a dear fr...

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