Mark & Chris Bell

Guest: Mark

Date: 2015-08-12 | Duration: 2h 42m

Episode Overview

Mark and Chris Bell join Joe Rogan to discuss a range of topics centered around performance enhancement, health, and personal struggles. They delve into the complexities of steroid use in sports, highlighting the blurred lines between therapeutic use and performance doping. The Bells share candid stories about the physical toll of intense training, including injuries and surgeries, and the challenges athletes face in balancing peak performance with long-term health. They also touch on the evolving cultural attitudes toward steroids and hormone replacement therapy, noting the contradictions in how society condemns steroid use while simultaneously promoting testosterone treatments in mainstream media. The conversation shifts toward the opioid epidemic and prescription drug addiction, with Chris Bell opening up about his own battles with Xanax and the broader crisis fueled by pharmaceutical companies. They discuss the systemic issues that perpetuate addiction, including the role of pill mills and the influence of money in politics. The brothers emphasize the importance of awareness, therapy, and family support in overcoming addiction. Throughout the episode, they reflect on their documentary work, particularly “Bigger, Stronger, Faster,” which explores these themes with honesty and personal insight, offering a nuanced perspective on the pursuit of strength and the costs that come with it.

About Chris Bell

Chris Bell is a talented director, producer, and writer renowned for his thought-provoking documentaries that explore the complexities of American culture. His notable works include "Bigger, Stronger, Faster*", which examines the world of performance-enhancing drugs in sports, "Trophy Kids," a critical look at youth sports and parental pressure, and "Prescription Thugs," which tackles the prescription drug epidemic. Currently, he is delving into the controversy surrounding Kratom, a plant with both advocates and critics. Bell's ability to tackle controversial topics with a compelling narrative makes him a fascinating voice in the documentary film industry, prompting discussions that resonate well beyond the screen.

About Mark

Mark Bell is an elite powerlifter and the owner of Team Super Training Gym in Sacramento, California, where he has cultivated a community of strength athletes and fitness enthusiasts. Known for his impressive lifting credentials, Mark has competed at the highest levels of powerlifting and holds multiple records. He’s also recognized for his innovative approach to training and nutrition, which he shares through his popular podcast, "Mark Bell’s Power Project." Mark’s engaging personality and expertise make him a compelling figure in the fitness world, as he combines passion with practical advice to help others achieve their strength goals. His insights into the sport and the fitness industry at large have garnered him a dedicated following and make him a frequent guest on platforms like the Joe Rogan Experience.

Key Moments

– Steroid Use
– Mixed Martial Arts
– Performance Enhancement
– Pain Management
– Addiction and Recovery
– Sports Injuries
– Documentary Filmmaking
– Testosterone Replacement Therapy
– Mental Health
– Youth Sports
– Pharmaceutical Industry
– Weight Cutting
– Physical Therapy
– Drug Policy
– Athlete Nutrition
– Concussions
– Family Dynamics
– Wrestling
– Supplement Use
0:00:00 – Introduction and greetings
0:00:44 – Discussion of 'Bigger Stronger Faster' documentary
0:01:19 – Narratives around steroid use in America
0:07:25 – Police encounter involving steroids
0:11:09 – Steroids classified as illegal drugs
0:12:32 – Knockout of Luke Rockhold discussed
0:14:22 – Reflections on documentary impact
0:18:17 – Hand-eye coordination and sport suitability
0:20:34 – Parents helping kids cheat in sports
0:22:41 – TRT commercials during sports events
0:25:59 – Depression linked to steroid withdrawal
0:28:17 – Risks of dehydration in fighting
0:35:50 – McGregor's stem cell knee treatments
0:40:10 – Women fighters breaking stereotypes
0:43:58 – Desire for non-tested UFC with heavier fighters
0:47:08 – Training techniques and muscle memory
0:49:10 – Frank Mir's retirement due to concussions
0:53:12 – History of hardcore fighting championships
0:55:27 – Reebok sponsorship and fighter complaints
0:58:51 – Bench press records and equipment
1:01:32 – Shoulder injuries from heavy lifting
1:05:37 – Louie Simmons' training influence
1:08:07 – Genesis of 'Bigger Stronger Faster' film
1:11:22 – Older brother's aggressive behavior
1:16:59 – Hip replacement surgery discussion
1:21:56 – Athlete with 28 knee surgeries
1:26:14 – Importance of movement and exercise
1:28:39 – Downward spiral of steroid abuse
1:37:27 – Relapse on Xanax and its effects
1:40:30 – Therapy as key to recovery
1:42:08 – Father's awareness of brother's fate
1:44:23 – Making 'Bigger Stronger Faster' documentary
1:48:12 – Relapse feelings with Xanax
2:00:20 – Chris Lieben's role in the film
2:01:03 – Statistics on pain pill addiction
2:06:33 – Prescription painkiller epidemic
2:10:26 – Physical pain from joint issues
2:14:37 – Stroke survivor inspiring youth
2:33:09 – Second film 'Trophy Kids' overview
2:38:26 – Closing remarks and goodbyes

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, we're live gentlemen. What's up? Hey now, thanks for doing this. Appreciate it. Thank you bigger stronger faster. It was uh, Starting point is 00:00:31 Did it bore you the first time, or why didn't you watch it all the way through? Starting point is 00:00:44 Great documentary, and interesting and honest it was really hilarious when you're going over the Starting point is 00:01:19 And they don't want to hear it because they don't, there's like a, there's a narrative that we're being taught in this country or that we're being told to embrace. Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah, he wasn't even supposed to run. Starting point is 00:02:23 enlightening too. When you were talking to that guy that was saying that they had found out about it from the Russians Starting point is 00:02:57 or however they were getting their hands on it once it was manufactured. Starting point is 00:03:24 I was just telling people that the strongest shit i ever took they made illegal but you used to Starting point is 00:03:57 more dangerous than the actual real testosterone blow you and all kinds of Starting point is 00:04:15 I got lucky. Starting point is 00:04:52 uh different things like i don't know how much that's linked to testosterone levels or not like Starting point is 00:05:12 They don't identify as female. Starting point is 00:05:31 You're like, I'm good. Starting point is 00:05:53 issue for about six or seven years now and he's actually going to be on my show uh coming up Starting point is 00:06:11 He's a good woman now. Starting point is 00:06:29 But people actually getting mad and committing hate crimes and stuff, to me, is just disgusting. Starting point is 00:06:45 I think there's more awareness and more acceptance Starting point is 00:07:01 and we're worried about that. Starting point is 00:07:25 Cops busted our brother with steroids. Starting point is 00:07:50 Well, I had talked to a guy who's a cop I used to work out with, and he had a rational...

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