Joe Rogan Experience #699 — Donald Cerrone Transcript
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0:00 Alright, we're live. We've been talking about doing this for a while. Um, then I had to do a UFC thing where I did a trained, um, Well, if we were at dinner, I'd have When you see a dude like that, you want to tell him, man, with that fucking body, you could be heavyweight champion of the world. $14 kamikazes. Nice and smooth. But when we were doing some underovers and some wrestling,
1:35 then he stepped it up a little bit. you're like, Jesus fucking Christ. and then you put some fucking gloves on, I have no idea. So I jumped knee. yo, cowboy fucking number 23 keeps hitting me in the ribs. like interacting with him in that sense but yeah they like promote it like oh you're messing with trouble do you think it's because hockey like they're not that stable because you're on skates
4:35 Bam! juggler done Yeah, it would have to be something no one expected. That's interesting. And that's insane, right? All right, I'll give you that. Like, think about if we were back pre-biblical, and we were in a, like, now. fucking great. You look out your window, You know, we got, we don't time. Maybe they just barely came with arrows. I should probably know this.
7:42 That was probably next. Can you Google it? That's the original catapult. It's perfect. How dare you, sir? You're not freaking me out. So bring it on. It'd be tough. It really is, man. it's a good question i think specifically the what they know and the way they know it they to call like hey mr rogan um is is sarah there can i talk nine o'clock phone off you know what i mean
10:56 There's like a hamster that runs on a wheel, and every fast he's running, it powers up my Wi-Fi, and it's terrible. Yeah, it's like... Yeah, I got like 48-hour Not where I live. Yeah, I am I am it's and there's nothing they can do they can't lay wires or anything like that Because you can be close to Jackson's? I literally showed up for Leonard for a week And then Greg asked me to be his 55er, and I never left.
12:40 You just liked it so much there? You know, and that's where the whole BMF ranch Just you're young and crazy? He, like, took me in. Bad motherfucker ranch. that so i looked at the city limits and land that i got in edgewood to buy in colorado would have going to get me fucking teary-eyed now, but, you know, it just, it was like a dream for Yeah, I do want to see it.
14:59 Whoa. I got it done now. And he just said, fuck it. You can also get busted. I'm kind of the learned trial by fire. Yeah, so now it's a horse stable. Something you had a problem with for me to like come in and teach a class would be really hard I don't know how Absolutely. Like I said earlier, I didn't know how to have any direction. You know, just like experiences I've had through my career.
18:02 Because it's like there's a real area in the beginning of a fighter's career, You take him in and then boom, Through Baltimore, man. He's a great coach, too. that'd be like me cornering leonard fuck him up leonard but for leonard you I'm like, no, Leonard, he's going to take you down, you know, so that we'd have to go back and forth. Yeah. Oh, Leonard had a bunch of wild ones.
21:09 talking to me and he's like yeah bitch and i was like okay and then just smoked me in my eye And then he hocks up again to hit me again. Oh, no. And we were in. boat rage okay boat rage boat. This is what happened. So this guy lived there. I guess. and three or four other fighters, nine of us. He's, like, flexing his muscles from the shore,, which one of you pussies want something, bro?
24:26 oh my god flips a bitch and comes bead lining fucking it and that's all i had to hear when i heard when she stood up and you know she's like Like, chill the fuck out. I'm like, you fucking, I don't know what to do. And I want to just rip this dude's heart out, right? That's the only thing I can, in the fit of rage, I mean, I can think to do. So the dude calls 911.
26:57 Oh, no, because I head kicked him in front of his friends. He was talking about us all day, two weeks. Exactly. Like that becomes like the lottery to them. So Matt Hughes does. Chuck was one of the first ones. Did they? So it's just unbelievable, man. you know who um ricky he used to work for jackson's uh gray jackson's guy i probably would have found
30:30 property oh gee and of course I got the notices to go to court why don't show up Like, they were going after podcasters for a while. because principle for them yeah well principle and also sets a precedent sure I love the picture you sent of you with the balance in the mace on your chin. fucking super athletic You're constantly doing shit like that, right?
32:50 I hope so. They keep saying that you know, usually you got to go out to fucking Hawaii to get those. I don't know either. I don't know I was convinced dude during your crash in 2000? I was listening to Art Bell. Wells suck. I'm on propane. And then I come in the house fucking ripping and roaring. And the funny thing is the propane company is like, oh, you don't want to pay? We won't bring any more propane. We don't right and the funny thing is the the propane company is like
35:09 Not really, right? Is that what it is? That is where yeah, that's um yeah so that was cool. Tylenol and shit. But, like, the ayahuasca one is a crazy one. It's DMT in a drinkable form because otherwise DMT, the only way you could take it is you What is that? And I remember tipping the gurney over, and I had to to throw up and i threw up blood all over this poor nurse
37:50 then your air comes back right and the guy's like walking the new guy through and i was like fuck no So you were in a coma? When did you start fighting? Well, that boat is not very there's not a lot of money in fighting the king of Thailand anyway Now I'm fucking good. And fucking me and my buddy Mike Baldwin, who's like my best friend still to this day,
40:08 They take it so serious fighting is not that serious Felder takes it too serious serious man Can't do this. and probably get there 10 days early and go wakeboarding. It's just a fight. start playing it safe. Tape it up. Short term. No. and I made it very crystal clear to the UFC, I will go get this MRI. They wanted me to. They wanted you to get an MRI? Yeah, you wanted to get it. They wanted me to.
42:44 and like separated it bad. His knees are all fucked up. and in stand-up striking like boxing other thing that what you just said to bring it in guys to train with, and sometimes those guys... That's the other thing, what you just said, the bringing in guys to train with. They want to say, dude, Donald Cerrone came into blah, blah, blah's camp and fucked him up.
44:44 Yeah, absolutely. I'll post a picture of something like surfing and people are like Connors gonna you well bitch first of all he's a 45 okay yeah I want to just just get on there and some complete fucking idiot Alright. I'm going to start drinking too. Alright. go back and forth. I used to. They pay me every month to drink that fucking ice cold Budweiser.
46:45 I like a Guinness. So snake bite is Guinness, half Guinness, and then half like an apple lager. We've got this dark beer, this dark black. Because no one can bullshit. even wrestled. How many martial arts guys You ever hear about that guy? In jail now for murder. bag right right that's big he had his friend drop him off. He brought a big-ass duffel bag, right?
48:58 The trophy's the same size Sure, sure. Yeah, well, those are important. To this day, are there any losses that just fucking, It is unbelievable. And it seemed, is he contacting you? Well, you were emotionally... Dos Anjos, no, the fuck they're not. i was just i don't know what the fuck i was doing i was just i sucked that night and that's all there
51:33 But as much as he talked, I like those guys. I mean, that's just who they are. I got nothing but respect for both of them. marijuana thing. This thing is awful. Right. It's ridiculous. If you're not, I mean, he is one of the names in the sport, absolutely. He's not doing shit. When we were kids, when a boxer hit his 30s, you're like, oh, he's 32, 33.
54:14 He eats real healthy. It's not like he's doing something that's making him freakishly fast or ridiculously strong. strangled they've never fought a day in their life and they're the ones that get of pencil pushers that are good dudes, you know, Who is it? He might actually have been in 400 fights. that can lift a fucking snowmobile but what's my one hand rat pull it out fucker that's a the world
56:44 Yeah. Max. Yeah. You're accustomed to a lifestyle that you've been fighting. But you're because of your style and because of Nick style If you and Connor fought and duked it out and had an epic contest, then you could do it. you'd never touch him. I wanted to kill him. But the fucking guy, look, when he said to Dos Anjos, that shit was hilarious. It is.
59:06 Because Robbie was dangerous. Stockton, motherfucker! And then the entire time the fight is going on, like, what, bitch? As far as Nick and Nate go, I don't know if that's like a game plan that But it's still like, bitch, like that, that's, that's, that's them. Some bitch laid out on the mat. It's fucking- Come on, lady. They did a number on him like I've never seen before.
1:01:33 He broke his leg. Like, if you could just get your mind to do what your heart wants to do, life would be so much easier. god damn it no a fucking fight is a fight. My Twitter feed is just nothing but you pussy. They might as well be talking to a unicorn. You know they might as well be talking to a god And when they're writing this thing, they're sitting there, their fucking keyboard getting crazy.
1:03:48 But now, December 18th, I have this entire time. I got all the people I meet along the way that I've met and I've interacted with and hung out. I don't even know if it's talking to them or if it's just knowing that they're there There's never going to be a time when I'm ready for this. Sometimes you look across at him and he's like, he doesn't look ready.
1:05:19 round come out he came i was like oh hey man hey man hey man slow down you know what i mean like I did. I tried. You know, I feel the mental game is so hard to grasp because, yeah, Henry Smith and Jafari I'm like a stick in the mud. You just look, you look so dominant in that fight and you look so focused and you just, But that's how I see the fights.
1:06:58 So, you know what I mean? From like a third party. Perfect example. and then came out in the Dunham fight and you were just on fire? I know he's your adversary and you're fighting him. Absolutely. You know what I mean? at being a fighter like think about your first days of fighting when you first learned Muay Thai. And that idea was if you get a guy who's a really good kickboxer but also has a really good guard,
1:10:12 They just take me down. So you got better at that. and it dude it is like it's like a drug, man. Or zone out. That all has to be absolutely, yeah, you know. Like how many beers do you drink on a regular basis? You want a beer. Well, it's up there. Boss Rootin. So here, I'm going to tell you the problem with drinking. Leads to us drinking shots. She plays the
1:13:55 finally at 6, 7 a.m. Yes. But if I have four or five beers, I don't make it. Right. So that's where I feel alcohol. Yes. Absolutely not. Nothing's wrong. I'm going to fucking cry. help. Vitamins will help. I don't take supplements. Nothing. He was like that close to surgery. He had a stem cell injection in his knee and fixed him right up. as Nick Diaz.
1:16:10 A cream. No, there wasn't. But I don't smoke weed. done being high. I wish I could be un-high right now. I mean one of my good friends Eric Bohnenkamp that's why he smoked There's a lot of shit that goes into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They use glass. Glass at the tip. Take a smell? Those glass tips, okay? Smell this. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not to be fucked with.
1:18:06 I know, right? Do you want some of this? See, but I do this all the time. It makes you confront all sorts of shit that you've been keeping in the back of your head. So everywhere we went, it says two miles as the crow flies. And you're still two fucking miles. Fuck, it's hard, man. You like to make your sphincter really fucking clamp down? And you got to clip the rope.
1:20:48 with no ropes. And one I mean, this fucking kid. Look at what You gonna be alright, man? Yes. in who was uh this is something he's been working towards for a long, long time. the fact that he barely neck kicked that guy, Sheffier. That's my buddy, Mike made a bunch of different pictures. So, what is an integrally suppressed it's so it's a motherfucker of a gun so
1:23:56 It's insane bro insane so the guy that came out to my house. It's Keystone Armory bolt-action rifle. It holds three. You can't even probably can't even possess them in California, which is really weird You see that badass Talladega shirt I have on? I like a lot of movement in my racing. We're going here, okay? I'll fucking, I'll run with you. And I'm a go-kart going motherfucker.
1:26:19 It's fucking unbelievable. I think she's hot as fuck. I have a biased opinion towards you, too. Right. Right. And see the fight in its integrity. If something's happening and some guys, it hurts. Sure. There's a real problem Totally sucked. We've seen that, man. I got to honestly tell you, I thought he edged you. And you're one of the best on the planet.
1:29:22 He's got a great soul. Chad Mendes. I love that dude. How fucking badass did she look? She's not winging shit It's beep-bing. If you're one of those fucking people like that girl's got that brain Yeah, if you're one of those fucking people she could be the best surfer English. You cheeky cunt. A Ram truck. Hey, you cunts. I mean, I don't know if you could understand him.
1:32:23 I love Australia, man. I like that dude. So, Colin Oak and Jonathan Webb just signed to the UFC, Oh, my God. And Jonathan looked spectacular, man. i fought um melvin gallard yeah oh that's right. You trained with Melvin a long time ago. Many years, yeah, very many years. Psychological war. On your friend, too, right? Yeah. The dude, rock on a rope, you know?
1:34:33 A rock on a rope. There's two schools of thought, right? Very much so, yeah. think that that actually is a smart thing that that that's active recovery. If I'm sore and I'm tired, I'll call it. Right. Running and a-gunning, baby. You go, go, go, go, go, go. and it's time to properly retire, sure you always- But if you just stay being cowboy, we just need to figure out a way to get this out.
1:37:37 Maybe she's the gal. I'm retired now. There's something appealing. like oh man i'm fucking in the zone and i'm like what's the the zone we were talking about when Steered away from that shit. This year, I get it one time. That's also the only way you get good at anything. True. People shy away from that. They don't go after the guy that kills them.
1:40:13 Let's go. You fucking fuck me up They just have, you know, they have days where they're world beaters. It's like you have to be able to go out there She just face-planted that chick on a straight out of Compton ad. It's great. I'm sure it's great. It's great. ape because it was chaos up until that moment right he came out guns blazing then you for talented absolutely that switch kick that he was hitting Paul Felder with was
1:43:11 His coach, Mark Henry, a lot of attention. But I like what happened at the press conference. I love Frankie. He was so much smaller than BJ, so much smaller than a lot of the guys he beat. nobody like Frankie right now in the sport He he beat Lyoto Machida at every facet of the game and that was impressive as fuck to me I love that dude gym, you know what I mean?
1:46:01 his game plan, he impresses He's another propane tank. Wow. Well, you know what, man? It's a very small fraternity. fucking sharks Get it. Considering. I got from that. Me talking shit about a leprechaun like their sacred guy? well, it is unless you take He is, right? It would be a fun fight. Right. He gets up to 170 in the normal, in the 170 range.
1:49:42 a kangaroo fucking Australian cunt. Did you lock the fucking door? Oh, that's hilarious. Him and Brendan Schaub, they had a fight companion podcast. Brian Callen has just unexpectedly showed up. The show can't start without us. We've got two shows, 8 o'clock and 10 o'clock. I let him book things. We were talking about, he asked me what I thought about that fight.
1:51:13 Where's the sexy cow and the hammer? He might be, but he might not be. you look at his fight with Uriah, for instance, He's a beast. We already went over it. I like it. It was like a back-and-forth fight, and Mendes hit him with some fucking bombs. Well, Chad Mendes hits pretty fucking hard. about his training methods that he calls it, him john cavanaugh's coast they they described it as upgrading your
1:53:49 I feel like you stand in people's grill more now. It was the greatest I had a nine pack after I left the show You're worse than me. I'm the worst. knew the dude who made that. She had a back on her, and she had a neck, What threw me off was just the knuckles. Kid's got a hog on him. Yeah. I love it. New Mexico. Hey, Grandma. Yeah, it totally looks like a different person.
1:57:21 So you would. It's like a real recent picture. It wasn't that long ago. Far right. Is that her boyfriend? He's going to fight in Japan. How much time would you need to fight Fedor? If he walked in right now, threw the fucking ape getting fucked by a werewolf on the ground, So am I. He's trying to sue to get his money. Billion. Guess who controls it?
1:59:40 but for the most part, Dominating the entire country. He had these Spetsnaz guys show up in there in their vans They still didn't invest, though. Whatever. I'm not from the street, bro. Fucking late you're telling that story. What did you what made you decide to come over here? He was texting me. Oh. Why didn't you tell me that you were texting him?
2:01:57 Come on over. Yeah. There's pictures of it. Oh, I have every alcohol you could ever believe of, Damn. It's a lot like Neverland Ranch. Jared-ing is what they're calling it today. i appreciate that man absolutely the Absolutely. The total opposite. Doesn't get permits. Fucks up You're learning all this stuff. Is that true? Yeah, just smoke, which I was amazed at.
2:04:55 You met him in the right spot. They fought in a bowl. Remember those? It was Chuck Norris I think more than Superfoot. I just sat next to Chuck Norris and talked for like an hour and a half. How many push-ups does Chuck Norris do? That's how I feel at this moment right now. I was there for all those movies, dude. That's a good fucking opportunity. I go, you know what's funny?
2:08:07 Then I meet Springsteen backstage. I known them gonna talk to him for like, you know, she goes ask him yourself and my elbows were pointed right at him. That's what I meant to say. And I fucking, and I've never lived that down. Hey, do you guys get people when you take and he's like, get the I fuck with them, but I don't. oh it's unbelievable. The message dispute happens and it is, it's classic.
2:11:16 He was talking about how his girlfriend hates where they live. and I feel bad. you know, That's a bad place to be. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. You can buy, like, nothing for, you know. No, I don't shoot fucking big game. Just any bird. Got him. $8 million. man went how could you fucking do this to us as in you don't have enough money got him and he and he went instead of going see you later he went sorry how about that man that's how people live sometimes well that's people that if
2:13:17 And there's no other stuff. Pre-biblical status. But now, because of the internet, you'll talk to people that go, And he'll find fans, people that admire him because of that. And coming with a finger in my ass. He's so weird. i'm glad we did this. It's on my answer. Well, we'll see how everyone reacts. Yes, if you don't have a fucking sword go and get one sell your cloak and get a better one to him
2:16:12 I want to own a lot of land and walk around in my cloak. I want hamsters to feel in my hands, please. They apparently don't miss each other. Is that true? When you stop giving them cat food, they just start eating you. Whoa! Yeah, whoa. just eat your face when you stop giving them cat food You might wake up and you have no Dude, come to the show One of my favorite places in the world.
2:18:20 Champion of the motherfucking world. is, I'm doing the gig. Can I come? Born ready. I'm coming. You heard him. Donald, get him kicking.