Joe Rogan Experience #83 — Bas Rutten Transcript

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0:00 American ingenuity at its best. And there's a little hole in it and it's actually, they were usable. in a little paper bag We walked up yeah, I know. Wow. Yeah. So the whole cup. The there, right? And they're only this small. Wow. It's not designed for American or Dutch cocks, right? And they had said, I forget who gave me the tape, but he goes, You were one of the first guys from Holland,

2:52 You see, and the longer the punch is, the more power it has. Well, you're one of those guys, too. did you start doing those it was the funniest thing i i made the big boss routines big books So anyway, we said, why don't I make a video? You can break it. Well, see, you don't have to worry about things. You're constantly dealing with fights. It is a crazy place.

5:33 Oh, yeah. And a very known place. And he says, we're just going to It's just constantly test themselves because they know who you are for some reason I never had it anymore and what was the bar fight in Sweden happened. And after that, for some reason, I never had it anymore. It was like 96 or 97. from kickboxing People knew me, you know, in my mind.

8:01 swedish you know and um they said, can you come with us? You're bothering the cosmos. They thought I was going to do something, of course. So I said, okay, don't touch me because if, you me because if you do that again, it's going to go wrong. And there I went, boom. So with, yeah, I don't know, but fast. down everyone that's coming at you you're knocking out but you're realizing you got to get out of

10:12 And I go, oh, you know. So I turned around and I thought, OK, now I'm going to go only for the eyes. And yeah, and I knocked him out, of course, also. I just want to have fun. I said, I got some good I said you should tell us yeah true story So I said okay This is like a movie Joe The lawyer goes. I said, but they started. highlander remember he he made a movie one time in a jail somewhere really weird.

14:03 Like a UFC fence Like that At 8 Wow Everybody has their own room place where all this shit is going down with wiki leaks where they're trying to put that guy in jail Wow. The girls are so hot. are you gonna do they're gonna stop the plane i said go take a leak man so he goes up and he's and the door is open like this not as bad If you won't shut your cell phone off, they'll put you in jail.

16:29 That's all you had to have. Oh, I had a ticket. But then the United States started being douchebags about it. at the border there Me too. No, that was not He got pulled over for a traffic violation. and it takes like an extra hour and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. they always ask me if he wasn't on roids roids are for faggots They're like, No, no, no.

19:26 Yeah, but 12 pound of bacon or something yeah fighter's build and it looks good builds up You know, there's something wrong with you because you're not happy with yourself. And they asked me to go. roids i mean you might as well stop your career because in this particular stage right now if and then they would you know they compete in these tournaments, in these races rather.

21:52 Like they'll wake up at like 3 o'clock in the morning and they're like, their heart's all fucked up and they got to get on the bike and go. use a pen as a syringe you know you need to evolve like this because it's so thick yeah it's coming It's a real good medicine apparently, but can you imagine? And veins get big. Stop pumping. That could fit into one of those

23:44 And has successfully Transition transitioned to a broadcasting career. Not full health. You have ever had tendonitis? There's no pain like it. because i had the tendonitis and then because you lose weight from the pain and then i start and I had the tendonitis and man everything now because it's a whole different ball game but so that means that every every time when you train

26:14 kid. Bad asthma, It could have an effect on your tendons. a tree in the forest and i could like 45 of the forest i go go from treetop to treetop i would And a few of them fell. many mixed martial artists were bullied you know i mean people look at a guy like you and they would I mean, because obviously something's wrong with them. hopefully it rings a bell with the bully,

28:53 Yeah. Like, how do you get bullying out of the schools? and getting out aggression So it's not like my name is on the gym and I'm not there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he also, because he went to boarding school in Scotland, I think within a month, everything, i said why doesn't everybody in america live here why would you live like they do though there's no

31:34 Which sounds as a very easy thing to fix, but in reality, it's the worst problem a knee can have. And they just recently put artificial meniscus in place. instance they can put a kneecap is in constant motion you know so it's not like you can put Check this out real quick. artificial meniscus that they can do nowadays that they're doing He's in his 50s and he's still trying to fight.

34:08 It's like sitting next to the driver, you work on like five special combinations, It has to be a feeling like that. ultimate high, right? When you win, it's the ultimate high. Because that's the big problem with guys. That's the thing. They'll be, like, dominating. You see it surface. And I say, just do it again. But it's afraid of losing in front of an audience

36:43 and the guy behind the desk tells you what you should have done. And if you have a fellow fighter and you go both into a room, you lock the door, you guys fight, who have no clue what it's all about. You're going to rip his head, right? here we go like wow what have i fucking done there's only there's a few shit talkers who are And Tito made a whole career out of it also, you know.

38:19 And he's a really nice guy, you know. I always say, who's got the biggest balls? There's nothing dumber than losing. When you fought Kosaka, you had a problem. That took a long Oh my God. are freaking out, the doctor knows this. Yeah, that was painful. And they spray lidocaine up there. the hair lasered off their legs. It's painful. So they, they cover their legs when they go to get their legs lasered they get the hair lasered off their legs

41:11 and then wrapped her legs up that I would go to the fight hour, You know, so I did it on them at the moment they would call my name. It was like my fourth fight or something, because whenever I get a tattoo, It is what it is. you'll go a whole year What the fuck is that about? You've got two lines. again? Oh, sorry, I gotta take another one. To just write on a piece of paper

43:36 All these injuries Not having stamina My brother has the same. Never had a problem with that. Training would be so much fun for me. Oh, my God, this is great. It's like bizarre things And once you have no more fun, is the same surgery Between C4 and 5 and 5 and 6, my nerves were flat, squashed. And Carwin. This is a bad injury. Because this is going to take a long time.

46:16 i had um um gig out musashi was over and his brother and his brother said that nobody could He's very strong. I got him in the armbar right away. And it's two months ago, so that would be six centimeters. He says nine months to a year. If it comes back, because I was very late with it. And outside, there's the pain thing. So then they go in there and they drill it out and then you have to wait forever for it to heal up.

48:21 And I'm actually feeling okay today in my knees. I start stretching while I put the incline all the way up, They don't realize that you're pumping everything. Because if they do 10 times this, loose and to stretch them out this is very important i would take before a fight also and put shoes totally adapted I go whoa Yeah, eventually. It's not fun.

51:32 And they like to hit the heavy bag, The Body Action Stand. with two of those kicking things. Let me take a look at this thing. They're going to flop around. prototypes and i have to train on those things the whole time to see and find out which is what It was vaporizing or eating the glue. a punch. I always have that I want to have my blood flow keep going

54:50 when you got a tight wrap just know They wrap their hands perfect. wanted to hit him with these two knuckles, you're sparring and it's bare knuckle. You have to understand, my parents are very conservative. just kept training and then finally after two after two years, they said, OK, you know, stop asking questions. She said, man, you got a good feeling.

57:23 and I put it down, and i was just waiting for let me see i was fighting uh thai boxing in holland i I was also drunk. I said, who's gonna fight? you know i could jump this high like my chest here i would stand in front of it and jump on a wall there was a wall i jumped on i i was always really good in jumping up like randallman did you know i could jump this high like my chest here i would stand in front of it and jump on the wall

1:00:13 So he says, the leg will be numb. Oh, no. I said, man, my leg doesn't work. So we went to the guys who did it, and we got in a little scuffle there, Whoa. I knocked the guy down three times in the first round, so I think I won the fight and apparently and they said okay Yeah, it is. And we had bows, and we did noon chucks, and we did like break tests, the crazy stuff and little cups on his mouth.

1:03:54 So then he would walk and he would come back with right, and he would hold it and then I would stand in front of it and I go, and then he And we went to there. you got some really good abilities man did you ever think about free fighting you know what it i saw them on the ground and then they say said, okay, just go. Whoa. So I had no clue what I was going to do. So you showed up. You just thought it was just some kind of a crazy fight.

1:06:21 I said, listen, I have my car next to the road here. once a month I would go over there, and it kind of faded away. pick up the phone. And the answering machine was broken or turned off because my crazy By works, you mean fixed fights. Well, I'll come back to that also. He had to go to the hospital for stitches. Otherwise, I hated those guys who were there.

1:09:21 Funaki Suzuki and I thought gaga here we go you so dinner, they gave me a book from Fujiwara, Suzuki told me straight in wouldn't you come up with something else? That's one of them. I heard that. That's why sometimes I get emotional from it when people say, oh, it was fake. And my heel is 180 degrees there. And we look, and there's this giant screen.

1:12:35 My first year and a half in Pancras was me training on the back pretty much. have called you know so i go whoa you see me letting go and then he feels his knee because we thought and I flex my muscle cory hill and um god who did he fight i forget who he fought uh brent no what the hell's his name You can bleed out. It was unbelievable. then you started doing the commentary in Japan.

1:14:49 you see the fights are on in the dressing room. I say, on his right arm, watch out, watch out. I said, well, you can see the setup. Cuadros and I, we did that in a studio later. That was the first one I think Because I know there was a talk. Because they needed an opponent for him that was at the event, So I said, so why don't we do K-1 rules with MMA gloves?

1:17:08 because I was in shape, you know, I had a real good stamina. So he declined to fight in Pride with you? I would have loved. He did, on a machine with 275 pounds, how can you escape by yourself from scratch because one time and I said, I just want to tell you let me took everything straight out of jiu-jitsu like the sleeve will take care that it's harder for you to roll out of an armbar so that's

1:19:53 He would find that way out, and then I would create a different way. And then my next eight fights, I trained for three months I think, two times a day. Did you get some in America? Never. in Pancras, they had rope escapes, right? So there's more thinking with sometimes I want to fight with like four submissions. allowing them to escape to you it's good because it just means you get more submission work in yeah

1:22:03 Yeah. And the night 8 again You had a The old original one. From Eindhoven, Holland. I gave you one of the posters. They did a tour. You were so worried about your opening music. So it's really fun. They don't know. he's going to freak me out? his fucking technique Yeah, he is. he's very humble. And then you go like, my manager into signing him. but, I mean,

1:25:13 Yeah, yeah. He used to come over to my house in Encino. We would watch them, man. I had I started working in 97. And I did it then. who was also the guy who tried to get me to fight Wesley Snipes one day. I saw Randy Couture's debut, Vitor Belfort's debut, Dan Henderson's debut. then I started working for them. The first, I think, eight shows I did for free.

1:27:23 Honestly, I shouldn't have been paid for the first ones. as a profession. So that's my number one thing. we're the only two You know, Crazy stuff. in the heyday that I like with 5 minutes And no elbows on the ground. Five? Name the other four. I'm one of those guys who made careers out of it. I'm the biggest guy. Do you think they could solve that with a neoprene sleeve on the elbow, maybe?

1:30:19 a pad over your elbow. Man. And it was still not gone. and the ground started going good, and, you know, okay, and I said Hickson By the way, that would have been another awesome fight. No, no, no. So then when we had the photo shoot, I go to the photo shoot, and he's there. But then I thought, no, I'm not going to tell him So he would read, like, I knew this already, but I didn't want to tell you because I want you to be 100% before you fight me and full of stamina because you're going to need it.

1:33:26 over there in Japan and what was that you get crazy with my fights also. he's going to lose, you know, rest of your life they were great moments and to interview those guys you know to reenact with them How many fights did you do over there in Pride? Yeah, I have no clue, but a lot. So during the heyday, it must have been completely insane. they're basically and that's accepted that's a part of japanese culture right is that just how

1:35:33 It was a pass from Joe Rogan for a buddy of mine. Okay, good. I mean, some of the greatest fights of all time. Really? Quinton he came in now the the pride what was going on back then at that time was pride was a And you would go out on the street and you would get That's when everything went down the drain. Good luck to find another Sakuraba who beat four Gracies.

1:38:11 But once an American guy he was a hugely popular guy, and he was from Brazil. Very few of the... It wasn't nearly as exciting as boxing or Muay Thai. The K-1 Max, the lightweight guys. if it was really big avenue for a profession there's not and he didn't make it over there. I was there when he fought Mark Coleman. But Maurice just, was going to get tired.

1:40:39 Yeah, and he makes a kick and it's on his defense and I slip so when you said wait he just listened to you? And then he tried to take my back. So right away, I dove in, but he grabs the ropes. What is it like now, going was wild. Man, you were really there for some crazy times. and I'm 195. How many minutes? Every time when I get hit, you hear my corner. You listen to the same. I thought it was for rooting. No, no, no, no. For rustic. Stay calm. Every time when I get hit,

1:42:55 Pop, boom. we're going to shoot a load. And I would swing back and underhook it and grab it. And then you relax and then pick it up. Right. when I was a kid became one. There's people going to need an outlet, and this and this is it this is gonna be very big i say and I was ashamed about a comment that I made against Frank because when I broke that guy's shin bone,

1:46:05 if I say okay your right arm is going to go when I was a kid it was all about striking because it just didn't seem like You look at like MMA, If you have that setup that nobody noticed yet, you see how many many times you see remember the first time the anaconda got introduced in Saccaria. Yeah, I mean, Lister, if Dean Lister was around in the early UFCs,

1:48:05 high level black belts that roll with him just say that guy is on another level there's just a do with those particular leg locks and how he could do this and make it that stronger Well, it's good to have a fresh perspective. There's so many different submissions and so many different transitions and chains of submissions and new techniques and new counters.

1:49:40 to back to one, to boom, cut. Yeah. yeah. man. My wife predicted that one this is our fourth year. Six months later, I'm in Japan. Best, right? Is it on YouTube? really weird because it doesn't work. And you do inside MMA, you do I love Schiavello. I go to Brussels, and then I do this just like three days before What is Brussels? Inside MMA, by the way, if you don't have HDNet, you're missing out.

1:53:07 and then I see the new talent coming up, you know, But it's really getting there. We never thought it was going to go doing that thing, I think, in front of a live audience. That would be cool to do also. But it's really getting there. Now, what about guys that you know that you started out with that have taken a lot of damage? You know, I mean, you didn't take damage. You took damage to your body

1:54:08 He already wants to prepare for the next fight. And I'm listening to him talking. The bad thing also is, like, your legacy is going down. So, you know, what I said, what they should do is you tell them, And then if everything feels good, you know know then maybe try it one more time but then really say Chuck Liddell knocked him out. Make three, four shots.

1:56:00 Very conservative. The guy is so strong. Dream and Strikeforce. He and his brother, Valentine, and I would submit him. for it he wants it the guy who really wants it it really is like that it's like the book i always Yeah, that's true. I truly believe I can beat all these guys now. back and they get choked a lot of these guys they give the choke speaking of that what did you think

1:58:50 That guy's big. And it's tougher even still I say, That was it. It's a crazy thing, right? And then to get to see him, you know, all the way to the end, to the Rich Franklin fight, you know, it's like, wow. All the knockouts he had is because of that. That's the same you can also see with the training when he fought Couture. Yeah, he learned how to fire him off as he was moving backwards.

2:01:03 Yeah, yeah. Dudes would grab the balls, remember? Yeah. Were they allowed to bite, though? Big John McCarthy. Oh, yeah? some words that people were saying, Yeah, well, I mean, you know, let's get it on. And I know that with the stem cells and everything, don't get me wrong, Yeah, but 45, 46. I came up with this. And I can't breathe. So I couldn't walk stairs nothing

2:04:10 but you take an inhaler would work better it closes the lung pipe And then make it every time a little smaller. Nobody made it. And it controls the air intake. on it he's got his female track team on it they're going to run tests on them now because he thinks Anyway, he says, he thinks it's just enough to spark more red blood cell production. Can I find it online?

2:06:44 O2Trainer.com. Zero two? Or O? O. The O2. hit by hmm o2 trainer comms yo to 0 to or oh oh the o2 shake this out and this You cannot buy it, okay? put screens in there, little rubber screens Then you do 12. My wife was saying, So I go, man, that I made for it. definitely check it out. Yeah, you got to check it out. We really appreciate it. You don't want to get used to the.

2:09:12 Party on. Boss, you're a fucking legend. Okie dokie. Hey, white-out man way. especially how to endanger the health of others with others. in the eye with a little pencil.