Joe Rogan Experience #875 — Shannon Briggs Transcript
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0:00 two one boom and we're live let's go champ the champ let's go champ if you said anything else uh i made it i'm here with you your videos on instagram get me fired up. You're positive. It's me. I'm 44. I'll be 45 in December 4th in a few weeks. but I don't like listening to rap lyrics Forum where you would just have a camera pointed at you. You're just saying
2:17 you have a war on sugar I was, like, gone. I love a success. the fun of what you're doing. I told you, I was like, And it was making me crazy mentally. But I had seen so much darkness in my life from a child. Yeah, it was just too much pressure. and all these big names and everybody was like, This is like my fourth comeback. you know what, I know I'm good at this.
5:34 I mean, I had a team behind me. I was on my own for a long time. You were this guy that everybody was looking forward to. Like what was that like to be that young, up-and-coming prospect with all those eyes on them? of started out young, knowing that, you know what, drinking when I was 13 years old. always been in a situation where You know what I mean?
8:01 That's what confidence is. He's now in Carlos Abuene. Unimaginable. um all he would tell me is give me a jump rope mistake jump i jump rope you know i mean Vamos campeon. Is that where it came from? Yeah, yeah. My mom was on drugs. so he could control and you know my mind and that was cool you know whatever I knew I didn't come And it was so much mental telling me that, you know, without me, you're nothing.
11:28 Because, I mean, I was just in a bad place, and they just, everybody assaulted me. the emotion in my voice, but I apologize. you know, without a stable Because I fought that fight with an asthma attack. You know what I mean? in a lot of ways. We're the firemen, do? They fight the fire! that's just a fact. And he wasn't doing And I submitted. And the manager was like, hey, you know what?
15:02 be a common never but of course he is a commentator this is before he told me he said he would never be a commentator but of course he is a commentator it was we when I lost that one time It's just you've got to have that bond together, You know, what I'm doing now, to be honest with you, I like to bug out. Yeah, Ali trained to Archie Moore. Be free.
17:03 It's like to the point where you're a man, champ. because it wasn't like something that I was used to. They see the television side of me. You know, I started getting in trouble and life took me to where I am now. Wow. And so it wasn't until you started having some success as a boxer that you stopped being homeless. It was funny because boxing always drew me back in
19:24 I always had the talent. It got back to me. I was like, I can't believe it. He seen me trying to get a token. Bro, I beat the crap out of him. How long did you stop for? to just really feel like I had my feet solid in the ground. How did you make that decision to just stop and get it together? He's 19. She came, and she was a spitting image of my mom.
22:11 And then I was fat. I held it every day. I'd put a whole box in a big, huge bowl. I got up and I started walking, man. I had cars. I had a lot of that. No disrespect, I got nothing but love because I learned a lot from him, good and bad. whether it's anger, love, whatever, use it. from other situations, other management. I was involved at the top level of things, you know, disappointments,
24:40 I haven't made much money in boxing. to me, champ. I've been shagged. figuring out how to look back on those negative moments But, you know, I think we do this, some of us do this, in hopes there is a finish line. You know what I'm saying? There's so much great things that's happening right now And now I'm walking everywhere I go, people I survived myself drinking, champ.
27:29 Jesus. That's why I'm the champ. God damn. Look at me, champ. And you're 44. I'm 45. I'd be like, you know what? I lost 160 pounds. Look at me, champ. You look great. Look at me, champ. God damn. David Hay said he was all in. Let's go, champ. Where's my UK hat? Champ, listen. Really? I was like, bro. Snoop Dogg was saying, let's go, champ. Especially with the Klitschko.
29:17 You knocked him over when you were riding in a boat. No, no. And he wound up fighting Calvin Brock, who was from North Carolina. They can say what they want about me, Joe. He can't front. talking about what I want to talk about, fights. And he still wouldn't fight me. Nah, it's stupid. Where does he go? Shout out to Hollywood, Florida. go out in the middle of the ocean
31:37 he's a weirdo Like, it wasn't for him. I was like, you know, he seen me. You know what I'm saying? Very disappointed. I went over to England. And just to have the love, man, it's just incredible. I gave everybody a call. He said, yo, you're a little crazy. I said, I am. I've been diagnosed a little crazy. I believed in me. Chris Lawrence Coleman was like, yo, I believe in you. And I was like, you know what, Chris? He said, yo, you're a little crazy.
33:42 when we put you in the bell ring, champ, I'm a Let's go, champ. And I'm crazy. I'm not going to fight fights for guys, for pennies. I fought Vitaly Klitschko, champ, for free, by the way. I fought some big punches I'm a former two time the beginning, from the Sullivan days Now that's another story in itself. Mark Roberts to come home to try to get promoters and different, you know, everybody wants their piece of the pie.
35:52 all the time, champ. If you're going into a fight, talk about, man, I just hope he run out of gas. You're constantly doing cardio. I'm cardio. when I was born. So, look at me I went to Risen Christ Lutheran School in Brownsville, Brooklyn for seven years. I don't know, champ. But, you know, looking back, like, we lived, you know, my mom lived in the towers, but, like, you know, where my grandmom lived on Pennsylvania Avenue in East New York.
37:39 I grew up hard. 100%. And that's what it's like. That's it. The worst. I got to deal with these lungs and I got to do I mean, I know people take inhalers. But, you know, it's something that I really, thanks to, you know, things that I'm doing now, my diet of first. Inflammation is key. No. Have you ever done So that's a lot of things people don't understand.
40:32 Shout out to Craig Brown. Everyone's doing little blogs. And I wound up being like 5,000. But it's just hilarious how much it's taken off. We do everything in-house, champ, which is just me and Craig I'm not sure if he's going to drop out are handling most of it. One arm for 12 rounds. I forgot how many number it was, but I took unreal punches to the head.
42:52 to change to the empire. wasn't my company anymore. I had no shares. That's crazy. Who knows? Well, he's a huge star in Germany. Not $1, champ. Yeah, I'm back to normal, yeah. How much have you had to, like, alter your training? The man, one of the greatest 90s. He told me recently, he said, don't stop end. I remember when Larry came back The best.
46:26 Like, what have you done to make sure that everything is, you know, going smooth? I met Dr. Buck at Whole Foods one day. And he gave me a great plan. I feel better than ever, honestly. He's been training with me for the last three years. everything. In the ring, when I y'all feel good champ where you can perform Train smarter, not harder. a guy and i love him shout out to billy beck and billy beck told me he said you know what you got
48:53 And then I give it, you know, and I might do that again in three months or two months. You know what I'm saying? I mean, kids would. So I grew up in the hospitals. I can tell you what the children's playrooms look like. Am I the greatest champion? I'm whatever. I'm going, the next level, the next a heavyweight. You got one of the best left It's a stabbing left hook. I got it.
50:52 I got that from him. I was like, fuck. I ran, and I said to myself, I'm never going to get depressed out of somebody else's loss I watched Chavez so much that I feel like if I'm heavyweight, I've got to perfect. Now, do you follow a strength and conditioning program? I worked with Mackie Shillstone, champ. This ain't nothing new to the champ. I know the name.
52:24 That's right. He might have worked with Holy, though. guys to make that leap to understand, like, look, That first fight in particular. That Doakes fight was crazy. I was moving with him the other day. Wow. He live in Florida. He chilling. of Shannon Briggs when it comes to training? a running day with boxing, Do you? Chamber. because everyone's, I know.
54:59 He is such a sucker. You know, I shook his hand. a fairly small heavyweight yeah I smash him up that was an easy win for me that I could smell it. I was like, oh. Just to try to, you know, if it's meant to be meant to. Yeah, it's every day. but that's what it took a nutritionist. You know what I'm saying? where they need to be. Do you supplement? and I was like, what's wrong with me?
57:52 I'm here. But it has nothing to do with that. I was drinking since I was a kid, and I shouldn't have been. Being an idiot. And that happened. A broken kid is the worst adult. Always living in a nice house. But I wasn't really dealing with the fact that my mom was on drugs. People, you know, they see the crazy side of me. People see me hype how I go from, that's me turning on the champ.
1:01:09 And I said, damn, I need to get my shit together. You know one of the things I love about you, too? So many kids commit suicide around the world, Champ. Thousands, over 15,000 of people telling me, Champ, thank you. But that's why I feel good, Champ. And I'm either going to win, lose, or draw, You watch it too much. Take some time off. I ain't gonna lie to you
1:03:12 About the Alex thing Like you know It's unreal. It's going to be on ESPN? Yeah, yeah. by the horn and not be able to come or the family. I don't want to play with him. I want the calling him a boy i don't want to play with this man he's a young man with a family i don't want to play with him i want the bell to ring because he in my way He's just like a tornado coming.
1:05:02 I don't have a great record. Ask Chris Bird. They're going to see me. This is a lot of suffering and pain, champ. And that is another reason that's fueling me. Come on, champ. ask somebody who's the heavyweight champion of the world, they don't But listen to this, champ. You feel me? I'm saying, that's cool. I want. That's what I have Hey, champ. You know what I mean? That a Wheaties moment. Like, hey, champ.
1:08:01 That was never the case. what I call pies you know they call it fighting pies just to stack up their $5,000 a fight. You know I 4K'd one, right? Yeah. Let's go, champ. He's a big fella. I said, I can't take it. I read in his eyes that that wasn't that bad. Got him on top of the head. That now I know how to put it there. How did the K-1 thing come about?
1:11:06 I was going to fight in UFC. I'm going to say around 2005, Okay. He wanted me to fight him. Or after other Tim Sylvia left. That's him. because Tim Sylvia didn't have any boxing matches. The kid could box. Because they wanted me to fight, what's his name? Let's go, champ. I did. When they were in a storefront you know, jiu-jitsu and all that, and it was kicking my ass, but I was loving it.
1:13:46 Yeah. It's important for boxers Brutal. Yeah. It'd be like me playing After that K-1 experience, man, I tell you, Jim, like oh I was like oh shit I was like yo Herman just get me out of here they paid me well champ Yeah, K-1 wasn't a thing for me. Tyrone Sponge is a bad motherfucker. He'll fight anybody, anywhere, anytime, though. Very smart dude, too.
1:15:38 If they give me the belt and the box, I'll take it. See, the whole thing with me is like what happened with Hayden has happened to me so many times. It's got to be a weird situation for you, right? look at his instagram always training always training um fought very very defensively very I'm not getting didn't get knocked There was once actually. I think he can fight. I think he's
1:17:27 He can punch. but I really am, Yeah, yeah, I don't want to be, He gonna get I'm gonna I'm gonna knock out Lucas Brown and then I'm gonna let Yeah, exactly. I'm going to keep it. And who's having more fun than me? like me using the money from a fight to buy a car wanting material things, What I'm finding so amazing is that lot of television i grew up reading comic books you know cartoons so i never had love and to have
1:20:59 The ball and error. It's a big thing. because someone's admiring you You know, But, you know, a lot of things, too, was for the show and all, boxing's over for you why do they think you it was over because you cut your hair that didn't for people to focus on. Dreadlocks. just nothing. I'm just going to be me. Why don't you do this challenge? Thank you, champ.
1:23:44 and shout out to Chris Lawrence, stay in your lane. Let's go, champ. I mean it takes a long time for everybody if everything's I had my own apartment it was like a I was like making your own decisions You know, great food, I guess. but it's so crucial. So I don't need to be on that yeah so i don't man, my wife and kids, man. They really Raisy K, all the people, man,
1:26:44 negativity news. I don't, I had to, I had to do a detox, first 48, lock up. You got negativity, news. I got to focus on Shannon Briggs and me and Lucas locking ass whenever we get a date. And a lot of people follow me on Some kids, thousands of kids hit me like, you're like a dad to me, man. don't even feel happy. Well, I think one of the things you're saying that's really important is
1:28:17 I mean, it really, not forget your head, because then it physically starts feeling like I felt You know what I mean? Kids, that stuff is bad for you mentally, champ. I'm not telling anyone to don't listen to your doctors. But me personally, I had to go on a journey to find out how to save me People can't give you, And also, again, back to what you're saying,
1:30:16 This shit ain't helping you either, champ. cook it yourself. We've got to try to saying is very important. It's very important I was like, because I'm not used to it. Now I can't take a sip. Yeah, man. really feel like deep in your body and your mood change you feel me i crash yeah i had a cheeseburger As much as you are helping yourself, and I know you're helping yourself, you're helping a lot of people, man.
1:32:08 You trademarked Let's Go Champ? When I'm talking about from at the top, Business is dirty. I was really passionate about it because it's something was saving it for book fuck it will sell the book man let me know I put up links He went to the military. and naked in Halsey Street in Brooklyn. And I'm like, ain't me crazy. You got to go. It became my mantra.
1:35:16 I need a mantra. pain, you feeling pain, you feeling down, The people linked into it. It's not mine. It's ours., man. The people gave me this. The universe gave me this. The people linked into it. And they come. But listen, if you can motivate yourself, I mean, you motivate other people, let's go, champ, that believe in me. He just said, you know, Shannon,
1:36:59 you give me a reason, because when, and I'm not chance or anybody out there that I know that was Every text, and now I got the world behind me. oh shit, Shannon's listening. I got a reason. You know what I mean? I got a reason. Don't get me wrong. Why so many with me? I get up every day and go to work, do my job. But I want to be paid. I didn't get paid when I fought Klitschko, champ. I want to be paid for that, champ. This is a job. You know what I mean? I'm a mailman. I get up every day and go to work, do my job.
1:39:13 No. I got a wife. champ, champ, champ. People turned their back on us, champ. And she went from a beautiful woman to a woman who lost everything, she said i didn't make it but i made it through you and that's what i'm doing this for because You provide a lot of motivation, a lot of therapeutic for me, more importantly, because it's perfect. but it's all good,
1:41:58 and remember this shit. and I appreciate it I couldn't get nothing from nobody, man. Before I go, I want to say this. campaign. And I'll give that to Wilder. It will make your life happier. Shannon Briggs? I appreciate y'all. Shout out to everybody. L.A., Compton, Watts.