Ryan Callaghan & Kenton Carruth

Date: 2017-02-08 | Duration: 2h 50m

Episode Overview

Ryan Callaghan and Kenton Carruth join the conversation to explore the intersection of outdoor gear innovation, public land conservation, and hunting culture. They begin by discussing the unique properties of merino wool and its advantages over synthetic materials for hunting apparel, highlighting its ability to retain heat and manage moisture effectively. This leads into a broader conversation about the importance of durable, functional clothing designed specifically for backcountry hunters who spend extended periods in remote environments. The episode then shifts focus to the critical issue of public land management, particularly the threats posed by legislative efforts like HR 621, which aimed to sell off millions of acres of public land to states. Callaghan and Carruth emphasize the vital role these lands play for hunters, anglers, and outdoor enthusiasts, sharing insights on how public lands are carefully regulated to preserve wildlife habitats and maintain the wilderness experience. They also touch on the complex dynamics of predator reintroduction, especially wolves, discussing both the ecological benefits and the challenges faced by ranchers and hunters. Throughout the episode, the guests share vivid hunting stories and reflections on the physical and mental demands of the sport. They delve into the nuances of ethical hunting, the skill required for long-range shots, and the deep connection hunters have with the land. The conversation balances technical knowledge with personal anecdotes, offering a rich perspective on conservation, outdoor craftsmanship, and the evolving culture of hunting in America.

About Kenton Carruth

Kenton Carruth is a passionate outdoor enthusiast and co-founder of FirstLite, a leading brand in the technical hunting apparel industry. With a strong commitment to conservation and sustainable practices, he has played a pivotal role in revolutionizing how hunters approach their gear, ensuring both performance and environmental responsibility. Kenton is known for his innovative approach to blending outdoor adventure with conservation efforts, making him a compelling voice in the hunting community. His insights on ethical hunting and the importance of preserving natural habitats resonate widely, as showcased during his appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience.

About Ryan Callaghan

Ryan “Cal” Callaghan is a prominent conservationist and the Director of Conservation for MeatEater, where he champions sustainable hunting and wildlife management. As a national board member of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, he advocates for public land access and the protection of natural resources, earning a reputation as a leading voice in the outdoor community. Known for his engaging storytelling and deep commitment to conservation, Cal blends his passion for hunting and the outdoors with a mission to educate others on the importance of environmental stewardship. His insights into wildlife conservation and responsible outdoor practices make him a compelling figure in the dialogue surrounding environmental issues.

Key Moments

– Public Land Management
– Merino Wool
– Hunting Clothing
– Backcountry Hunting
– Wildlife Conservation
– Wolf Reintroduction
– Archery Techniques
– Altitude Training
– Predator-Prey Dynamics
– Hunting Ethics
– Outdoor Survival
– Bureau of Land Management
– Hunting Equipment
– Wildlife Biology
– Hunting Culture
– Hunting Legislation
– Animal Behavior
– Hunting Safety
– Hunting Skills
– Environmental Impact
0:00:39 – Introduction to Merino wool properties
0:05:37 – Discussion on public land sale bills
0:07:22 – Description of Idaho wilderness and public lands
0:10:00 – Importance of land regulations for preservation
0:14:41 – Details on HR 621 land sale proposal
0:18:49 – Overview of Bureau of Land Management focus
0:20:19 – Challenges of hunting around cattle grazing areas
0:25:15 – Discussion on predator reintroduction efforts
0:28:59 – Debate on elk historical habitat
0:33:22 – Controversies in wolf biology and behavior
0:36:06 – Impact of wolves on livestock and hunting
0:39:49 – Wolves' effect on elk and deer populations
0:44:11 – Experience observing buffalo in Yellowstone
0:46:33 – Effects of altitude and environment on hunting
0:50:08 – Dangers and realities of hunting in wilderness
0:53:25 – Natural decomposition and ecosystem role
0:57:11 – Close encounter with a threatening wolf
1:05:35 – Scoring and measuring large elk
1:09:39 – Training and fitness for hunting performance
1:13:46 – Anxiety and responsibility of making a clean kill
1:15:05 – Missed shot at largest mule deer
1:18:42 – Confidence in making difficult shots
1:21:02 – Rarity and difficulty of hunting certain areas
1:23:07 – Challenges of hunting in unfamiliar terrain
1:27:32 – Stress and adrenaline during dangerous situations
1:30:04 – Traditional archery techniques explained
1:32:56 – Muscle focus for archery performance
1:36:28 – Accuracy and range with traditional bows
1:38:21 – Mental focus during shooting
1:40:59 – Comparison of hunting and mountaineering experiences
1:44:17 – Reflections on human connection to nature
1:51:09 – Role of conservation organizations
1:56:13 – New management plan for public lands
2:00:51 – Development of hunting clothing technology
2:05:09 – Differences in hunting gear versus hiking gear
2:12:02 – Competition and camaraderie in hunting community
2:23:29 – Misconceptions about hunting impact
2:29:30 – Economic importance of hunting to wildlife preservation

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 That's why you have a producer. Jamie's on the ball. Starting point is 00:00:16 I'm here with my good pal Ryan Callahan. Starting point is 00:00:39 you started out with merino wool which i think uh before i went with uh ryan and steinella, I really had no idea about the properties of merino wool. Starting point is 00:01:27 Like, oh, what's going on there? Starting point is 00:02:05 it retains 80 of its heat yeah it's amazing it's amazing stuff and is there a synthetic uh material Starting point is 00:02:48 So the thing that loves water is going to pull moisture off, and the thing that hates Starting point is 00:03:14 skin and can dry out that stuff better. Starting point is 00:03:41 uh, hunting clothing. Starting point is 00:04:21 work great, but it wasn't until we kind of started using Merino that we found Starting point is 00:05:01 that was a big deal you know because you could wear it for days and days and so that was like, whoa, that was a big deal, you know, because you could wear it for days and days. And so that was kind of the impetus. And at the same time, it started taking over, Starting point is 00:05:37 What these bills are about is they're about selling off our public land, giving the states the ability to do whatever they want with it. Starting point is 00:06:08 Like backcountry hunters and anglers have that great shirt that I wear all the time. Starting point is 00:06:38 But I didn't know that this public land system even existed. Starting point is 00:07:22 I mean you guys are in Idaho and you're in the boondocks, man. I mean, you guys are in Idaho, and you're in a beautiful area, Starting point is 00:07:53 So it's a wild chunk of ground. Starting point is 00:08:21 Once that's gone, it's gone. Yeah. I mean, and there are regulations Starting point is 00:09:06 that live there, making sure that no one is breaking any of the laws. I mean, it's really Starting point is 00:09:34 That's right. Starting point is 00:10:00 It is not ...

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