Maynard James Keenan

Date: 2017-07-12 | Duration: 2h 56m

Category: Arts & Entertainment, Nature & Outdoors

Episode Overview

Maynard James Keenan joins Joe Rogan for a wide-ranging conversation that touches on his diverse interests beyond music. They begin by discussing Keenan’s experiences with falconry and how trained hawks are used to protect vineyards from pests, sharing vivid stories about falcons attacking drones and scaring off pigeons. This segues into Keenan’s ventures in winemaking and farming, where he emphasizes the importance of maintaining ecological balance and reconnecting with nature. He reflects on the challenges of managing multiple creative and business projects simultaneously, including his bands, wineries, and a restaurant. The discussion also delves into health and wellness, with Keenan sharing insights from his practice of Brazilian jiu-jitsu and the role of probiotics and natural remedies in his routine. He talks candidly about the physical toll of touring and the importance of sustainable habits. Politics and social division come up as well, with Keenan expressing frustration over societal toxicity and the need for open, honest conversations to bridge divides. Throughout the episode, Keenan’s grounded perspective and storytelling reveal a thoughtful approach to life’s complexities, blending creativity, nature, and personal growth.

About Maynard James Keenan

Maynard James Keenan is a multifaceted artist renowned as the lead vocalist of the Grammy Award-winning rock bands Tool, A Perfect Circle, and Puscifer. With a unique blend of progressive rock and thought-provoking lyrics, he has captivated audiences and critics alike, earning a reputation as one of the most innovative figures in modern music. Beyond his musical prowess, Keenan is also a successful winemaker, owning the acclaimed winery Caduceus Cellars in Arizona, where he applies his artistic vision to the world of viticulture. His diverse talents and enigmatic persona make him a compelling figure in both the music industry and beyond, sparking discussions on creativity, philosophy, and the interplay between art and life.

Key Moments

– Falconry
– Streaming Media
– Music Industry
– Wildlife Conservation
– Fire Evacuation
– Mental Health
– Social Media Toxicity
– Child Actors
– Rock Music Culture
– Jiu-Jitsu
– Probiotics
– Sports Injuries
– Desert Wildlife
– Wild Pigs
– Agriculture
– Water Wells
– Vineyard Management
– Marathon Running
– Cannabis Use
– Film Industry
0:00:57 – Falconry used to protect vineyards from pigeons
0:02:39 – Falcons attacking drones at high speed
0:04:17 – Discussion about starting streaming content
0:06:07 – Mention of Garth Brooks and music streaming challenges
0:09:39 – Farmers adopting new technology
0:10:37 – Experiences with wildfire evacuations
0:13:52 – Impact of divisive conversations on society
0:17:03 – Chemical reactions in the body from adrenaline
0:19:06 – Advice to disconnect from screens and socialize
0:21:31 – Communication habits of drug dealers
0:22:57 – Need for people to reconnect with loved ones
0:24:09 – Emergence of new diseases and fungi
0:26:04 – Online solutions to social problems
0:27:09 – Nature versus nurture in societal conflicts
0:29:27 – Challenges faced by child actors
0:32:38 – Image-based culture in rock music industry
0:36:16 – Learning to use stoves safely
0:40:41 – Fermentation process using apples
0:44:04 – Recommendations for dining in Scottsdale
0:48:42 – Marathon and ultramarathon running benefits
0:50:58 – Stereotypes about cannabis users
0:53:18 – Effects of moderate cannabis use
0:56:04 – Learning and practicing jiu-jitsu on the road
1:01:08 – Strength and toughness of jiu-jitsu practitioners' hands
1:03:53 – Benefits of probiotics for health
1:06:26 – Risks of chest muscle injuries in athletes
1:08:04 – Staph infections and fight injuries
1:10:06 – Encounters with rattlesnakes and tarantulas
1:12:08 – Comparing centipede and tarantula hawk stings
1:16:00 – Discussion about 'The Make You Work' movie
1:18:56 – Yoga practice in hotel rooms
1:21:18 – Delegation and sustainability in business
1:25:55 – Distraction tactics to divide society
1:28:06 – Growing up without internet versus now
1:31:25 – Impact of locusts and grasshoppers on vineyards
1:34:37 – Wild pig populations damaging lawns
1:37:31 – Installing backup water wells on properties
1:41:48 – Closing remarks and goodbyes

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 What's it called again? What's the gym called? Verde Valley Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. So Verde Valley BJJ. And what town is that in? Old Town Cottonwood in Arizona. So you essentially like invested and built a gym out there so you'd have a place to train? Basically, yeah. That's such a smart move. It's kind of what you have to do right yeah otherwise you'd have to drive hours yeah I mean there's megatons down south there's a bunch of places down Starting point is 00:00:31 there but they're just it's you know two-hour drive there's also Ted Osborne Osborne jiu-jitsu has an Academy there when you decide like where you're gonna live when you decide where you're gonna like decide to spend all your time like do you ever go what the fuck am I doing in the middle of nowhere in Arizona? I'm maintaining peace of mind, and I remind myself of that right away. So that's essential. It's planned out in a sense. Yeah. Starting point is 00:00:56 Just that isolation a little bit, just to be able to unplug and reset. I think just my introvert nature, I need that time. I need that introspection. I think just my introvert nature, I need, I need that time. I need that, I need that introspection. I need that moment. Yeah. Because for you, you are kind of an introvert, but you're also kind of an extrovert. I mean, you're the lead singer of Tool. I mean, it's not like, I mean, you can only be so introverted and do what you do. So you have to kind of like fluctuate. It's a balance, but I need to recharge. I need to unplug and go back and recharge, and then I can go back out and do that. Starting point is 00:01:28 A lot of people never figure that out, right? They just kind of burn. They burn the fuck out. Yeah. How'd you figure out to not do that? First couple years of being in L.A., I realized it was just such an energy sap. I needed to actually literally go someplace Starting point is 00:01:44 where there were very few people. Yeah, that's the move, right? God, I al...

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