Peter McGraw

Date: 2014-11-21 | Duration: 2h 50m

Episode Overview

Peter McGraw dives deep into the science and philosophy of humor, exploring what makes comedy work and why people laugh. Drawing from his book *The Humor Code*, he explains the concept of “benign violation,” where humor arises when something is simultaneously wrong yet safe enough to be funny. McGraw shares insights from his research in comedy clubs and open mics, highlighting how context, audience dynamics, and the social environment shape comedic success. He also discusses the emotional complexity comedians face, often navigating dark personal experiences to connect with audiences. The conversation touches on the cultural variations in humor, including how comedians from different countries and backgrounds approach comedy uniquely. McGraw recounts fieldwork in places like Tanzania and Mexico City, revealing how humor reflects local social norms and tensions. He also reflects on the role of comedy in addressing sensitive topics, such as religion and tragedy, emphasizing the delicate balance between offense and satire. Throughout, McGraw underscores comedy’s power to foster connection, challenge authority, and provide relief in difficult times, offering a thoughtful look at the art and science behind making people laugh.

About Peter McGraw

Peter McGraw is an associate professor of Marketing and Psychology at the University of Colorado Boulder, renowned for his innovative research on humor and human behavior. Co-author of the bestselling book "The Humor Code," alongside journalist Joel Warner, McGraw has led an international research project that delves into the psychology of laughter and its impact on decision-making and emotions. His unique blend of expertise in judgment, emotion, and mood makes him a fascinating figure in the study of humor, shedding light on why we laugh and how it shapes our experiences. With a passion for bridging academic research and accessible insights, McGraw captivates audiences with his engaging exploration of the lighter side of life.

Key Moments

– Comedy Analysis
– Humor Theory
– Stand-up Comedy
– Comedy Clubs
– Cultural Humor
– Comedy Psychology
– Comedy Writing
– Comedy Performance
– Comedy History
– Social Critique
– Comedy and Society
– Cross-cultural Comedy
– Comedy Research
– Comedy and Offense
– Comedy and Tragedy
– Comedy Mentorship
– Comedy Touring
– Comedy Audiences
– Comedy and Identity
0:00:31 – Introduction to Humor Code book
0:05:10 – Dark places comedians explore
0:08:16 – Making way for headlining comedians
0:10:15 – Chris Rock's admiration for comedy
0:14:56 – Why comedians often seem 'messed up'
0:17:10 – Audience criticism and self-judgment
0:19:21 – Open mic nights and comedy critique
0:23:09 – Working with comedy mentors during graduate studies
0:24:02 – Ernest Hemingway quote on first drafts
0:33:10 – Investigating what makes jokes land
0:34:38 – Benign violation theory explained
0:36:52 – Laughter as social bonding in comedy
0:40:16 – Uncomfortable factors in comedy settings
0:44:51 – Sam Kinison's influence on comedy
0:46:26 – Comedy research trips to Tanzania
0:48:10 – Identifying top comedians in major cities
0:54:10 – Limitations of hipster comedy scenes
0:57:54 – Broadcasting comedy from Egypt and Jordan
1:01:05 – Chris Rock's crossover appeal
1:06:10 – Creativity linked to intelligence in comedy
1:10:15 – Unconventional comedy bits and audience reaction
1:23:21 – Favorite comedians without explicit philosophy
1:25:09 – Mitch Hedberg's consistent comedic quality
1:27:13 – Developing humor and producing laughs
1:31:37 – Humor failure explained by benign violation theory
1:33:35 – Comedy as personal worldview expression
1:35:54 – Using character to expose social issues
1:39:25 – Rat laughter studies and emotional states
1:44:36 – Science cutting comedy learning curve
1:47:59 – Patch Adams and comedy in healing
1:50:45 – The Onion's approach to tragedy and comedy
1:53:05 – Thomas Hobbes on humor and society
1:55:49 – Struggle to achieve enlightenment and humor
2:00:13 – Designing comedy to challenge social norms
2:06:51 – Women's rights and comedy discussion
2:10:03 – Comedy's role in free speech debates
2:14:33 – Mocking civilization's absurdities
2:18:30 – Comedy's divisive and unifying effects
2:23:58 – Personal views on abortion and comedy
2:31:07 – Comedy enhancing tools and improv groups
2:38:04 – Research on what others laugh at and why
2:44:20 – Patience required for comedic skill development
2:45:53 – Importance of external perspectives in comedy

Transcript Excerpt

Starting point is 00:00:00 We used to do commercials, but now we just add them in later. Starting point is 00:00:17 Peter McGraw. Starting point is 00:00:31 So your book, Humor Code, it's all about analyzing comedy and the art of comedy, where comedy comes from, where humor comes from. Starting point is 00:01:06 Except for Stephen King. Starting point is 00:01:47 He was on Animal House. Starting point is 00:02:08 Right. Starting point is 00:02:15 This is a confused fucking room. Starting point is 00:02:29 Leave this fucking disaster alone. Starting point is 00:02:50 It's terrifying that a guy like that can make it to like 70, whatever the hell he was, by doing it. Starting point is 00:03:09 But here's the thing that is striking to me is like, why does he need to do something like... Starting point is 00:03:42 wait in the hall like by the hundreds he could do that i meanitutes and have them wait in the hall, like, by the hundreds, he could do that. Starting point is 00:04:04 It's awful. Starting point is 00:04:18 is a lot nicer and friendlier and warmer. Starting point is 00:04:55 No, never. Starting point is 00:05:10 and some of it is is that the act of being a funny person you often go down dark dark places Starting point is 00:05:52 Amazing. Starting point is 00:06:26 philosophy when it came to comedy. Starting point is 00:06:43 People have like slept on Martinin lawrence and i don't Starting point is 00:07:10 I mean, Starting point is 00:07:19 And I used to go on after him Starting point is 00:07:45 no no you're gonna go on at 10 45 after you know a guy like damon wayans does 45 minutes and Starting point is 00:08:16 They'd clear the path and make the path towards the stage larger Starting point is 00:08:36 Okay. Starting point is 00:09:05 back and watched some of his stuff it's it's really interesting to go back and watch classic Starting point is 00:09:38 And he's so likable in ways that... Starting point is 00:10:15 chris rock was raving about it chris rock wa...

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